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CA: New Majority now 'integral' to O.C.'s GOP
OC Register ^ | 12/25/2004 | Martin Wisckol

Posted on 01/27/2006 10:37:05 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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This sure ain't your grandfather's GOP anymore. Middle of the road is power, Baby!

Power to the Moderates! Who cares what it costs us in the long run?

Thought this beared posting to show what conservatives are up against these days in California.

Effectively, conservatives are pretty much partyless.

They are told to adapt,, or to STFU by even some here, but please keep sending them money.

Go Figure .

Enjoy your 'diversity' , Ca GOP.

If things continue as they are "progressing" here in California, it won't be long that you'll just be a footnote in a dusty book.

1 posted on 01/27/2006 10:37:06 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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RINOs have and will always be the poison pill within the Republican Party, essentially operatives from the Democrat Party to turn the GOP into Democrat-lite, screwing everything up they can, our civil liberties and Constitutional rights be damned.


3 posted on 01/27/2006 10:44:04 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (We shall overcome)
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To: NormsRevenge

Lincoln Club, New Majority: Wealthy Orange County business owners and leaders. Several are billionaires, not millionaires.

Orange County: 3.0 million population. Median home price Dec. 2005 = $617,000. Home of Nixon library, Disneyland and the California Angels 2002 World Series Champs.

Four of the six most southern counties in California voted for Bush in 2004: San Diego, Orange, Ventura and San Luis Obispo. Two voted Kerry: Lost Angeles and Santa Barbara.

Of one thing I assure the reader: Both Lincoln Club and New Majority would like to win elections. Hence, following guidelines of Reagan, they compromise and join efforts and $$ towards that end.

In the past their influence was recognized in Sacremento and in Washington DC.


4 posted on 01/27/2006 11:15:44 AM PST by truth_seeker
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To: CounterCounterCulture
The "moderates" coming have my seat as I'm going out.

And conservatives aren't partiless unless they choose to be. There's always the Constitutional Party. If that mvoe allows the Dems to win an election or two, well, it may just be the wake-up call the GOP, and the country, needs.

5 posted on 01/27/2006 11:15:57 AM PST by mikeus_maximus (Voting for "the lesser of two evils" is still evil.)
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Specific complaints included the loss of seats to Democrats in congressional, state Senate and Assembly districts in the central, heavily ethnic part of the county. Republican losses at the statewide level were blamed on nominees who didn't appeal strongly enough to middle-of-the-road voters.

Does this sound familiar?

Many of the complaints are valid. The CAGOP has done a disgraceful job developing and encouraging young people to become active in partisan politics leading to a dearth of qualified candidates when public offices go begging. Republican or Conservative clubs are virtually non existent at the secondary level and sparse at the post secondary level in both California's private and public education system/institutions.

Programs designed to educate and encourage party membership among California's two fastest growing demographics, Hispanics and boomers are also absent.

The party has little control over its elected party officials, beyond campaign finance support, and as a consequence, their legislative representatives are generally considered unenlightened chattel, given little voice in legislative matters. The party has been reduced to negotiating deals with the opposition behind closed doors instead of allowing a free discussion in the open light of legislative hearings. The rank and file frequently complain, as witnessed yesterday in a Senate transportation hearing, but those complaints fall upon deaf ears in their own party.

Yes the New Majority has valid complaints. Too bad the NM isn't conservative. With the financial clout it wields the CAGOP could becaome a constructive force in California. Instead the party faithful suffer the indignities of Dick Akerman, Kevin McCarthy, Duf Sundheim and the Wilsonegger gang.

6 posted on 01/27/2006 11:20:29 AM PST by Amerigomag
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Thanks.. It is too bad the NM has its own agenda and not much of a conservative one, the fact it matches much of the extreme left is of not much concern to some at FR, which is a bit odd as they proclaim themselves to be as conservative as the rest of the "losers" here who will not bend to their agenda or continuing deceit and hype.


7 posted on 01/27/2006 11:27:28 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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I guess the big question would be "Why should a RAT vote for the Repubos if they have become "RATs light"? Why not just vote for the real RAT? My guess is that the Republican Party in California is doomed, a trend that has been going on for the last 30 years. The last real Republican governor of Cal was Reagan; the last somewhat Republican governor was Deukmejian. Pete Wilson was a rino and its been downhill ever since.


8 posted on 01/27/2006 12:18:17 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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..if that last election taught us anything it taught us this: California as a whole does not want change unless it is leftist in nature.

Therefore the GOP out here thinks the way to survive is have a tent so big--Ringling Bros could use it.

9 posted on 01/27/2006 12:32:32 PM PST by WalterSkinner
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What has not been said in the article or comments is that the RINO's in California have been pursuing a scorched earth policy since at least 1990. The RINO's have put their money behind Democrats and against conservative politicians and conservative sponsored initiatives, to defeat conservatives in every general election. Conservatives aren't a "minority" in the GOP. It's just that conservatives have to fight the Democratic left, independents, AND the RINO fifth column.

And then the RINO SOB's run the Democrat play book, calling the truth a lie and a lie the truth, and cry "big tent!", "big tent!". The RINO's accuse conservative Republicans of destroying the GOP, when in fact, it's the RINO's scorched earth policy of "it's the RINO way, or the Democrat-left highway, buddy" that has destroyed the GOP from within.

I haven't sat out an election in my 32 years of eligibility, but I've given up on CA. I don't send cash when I receive requests for contributions, my family doesn't act as GOP volunteers anymore, I don't return Email, phone calls, or read the political junk mail, and if election day happens to fall on a day when I'm doing anything other than sleeping, bahh... I could care less. I've actually spent my money supporting out-of-state GOP conservatives the past four or five years. Whatever I do in California, the result will be the same. My kids both graduate High School this year, and we continue to plan our exit from California.

The RINO's can cajole, blame, jump in summersaults, and kick up all sorts of dust, but I don't really care anymore. The RINO's helped Democrat's establish the current state of affairs, they can live with a corrupt one-party leftist state.

SFS

10 posted on 01/27/2006 12:32:50 PM PST by Steel and Fire and Stone
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"Of all forms of tyranny the least attractive and the most vulgar is the tyranny of mere wealth, the tyranny of plutocracy."

~ Theodore Roosevelt


11 posted on 01/27/2006 12:35:58 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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A little background for the youngsters:

In 1912, the "Bull Moose" Party was formed during a fight for the Republican Presidential nomination between President William Howard Taft and former President Theodore Roosevelt. The Bull Moose, or the "Progressive Party" of 1912 was a group led by Roosevelt who felt the GOP had strayed from its core principles.

12 posted on 01/27/2006 1:17:12 PM PST by Amerigomag
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Even some on the other side of the aisle praise the group's members, noting that they are not tied to the dogmatic ideology found in many stalwarts.

"They're thinking, pragmatic individuals, looking for new solutions to long-standing problems," said state Sen. Joe Dunn, D-Santa Ana. "They're absolutely an asset to the political process."

Joe Dunn, lauding the NM. That says it all. This guy is about as left as they come.

13 posted on 01/27/2006 2:15:32 PM PST by calcowgirl
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"helping abortion-rights, pro-gun control,"
so what your saying is - you want Democrats


14 posted on 01/27/2006 2:19:12 PM PST by DM1
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"They are a group of wealthy, spoiled individuals who are out of touch with the values of everyday Republicans," he said. "They are liberal, big-money individuals who had not achieved the political prestige they wanted."

If they wanted a pro-abortion, pro-gun control party, they should join the democrats. They don't seek "moderation", they seek capitulation in the name of power.

15 posted on 01/27/2006 2:27:19 PM PST by calcowgirl
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The attempt to destroy the Republican Party from within continues. Pro-life, pro-hetero family values, pro-Constitution conservatives are the heart and soul of the GOP and will not accept being sold out.

Screw the "big tent".

16 posted on 01/27/2006 4:44:53 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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f they wanted a pro-abortion, pro-gun control party, they should join the democrats. They don't seek "moderation", they seek capitulation in the name of power.

Well said.

17 posted on 01/27/2006 4:45:51 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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Conservatives aren't a "minority" in the GOP. It's just that conservatives have to fight the Democratic left, independents, AND the RINO fifth column. And then the RINO SOB's run the Democrat play book, calling the truth a lie and a lie the truth, and cry "big tent!", "big tent!". The RINO's accuse conservative Republicans of destroying the GOP, when in fact, it's the RINO's scorched earth policy of "it's the RINO way, or the Democrat-left highway, buddy" that has destroyed the GOP from within.

Right on.

18 posted on 01/27/2006 4:47:51 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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You Know growing up in OC in the 80's was great,Repubs all over the place, now it's getting this influx of Rats, and it's sad.


19 posted on 01/27/2006 4:51:08 PM PST by cmsgop ( Bill Clinton's License Plate..... "Herpes 1")
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"If they wanted a pro-abortion, pro-gun control party, they should join the democrats."

It would certainly be far more honest.

The RNC/CAGOP/New Majority drones are all party-above-principle GOP Big Tent types that wouldn't be caught dead supporting a true conservative. Conservatives in Orange County despise the lot of them.

20 posted on 01/27/2006 4:58:01 PM PST by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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