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Baker’s relief bill deserves try
Baton Rouge Morning Advocate ^ | 1-29-06 | John LaPlante

Posted on 01/29/2006 6:51:06 AM PST by Uncle Sham

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To: CajunConservative

I doubt you'll get an answer to that. Everything Mississippi does is right and everything Louisiana does is wrong.


201 posted on 01/29/2006 6:38:55 PM PST by lsucat
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To: Flifuss

The purchase price to the agency would be 60% of pre-Katrina value. If this property is in an area where redevelopment is allowed, it will definitely be worth considerably more than the pre-Katrina level. The increase in property value, depending upon the circumstances at the time of redevelopment should be much closer to the overall purchase cost.


202 posted on 01/29/2006 6:39:45 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: lsucat

Some on this forum apparently feel that way. Frustrating isn't it?


203 posted on 01/29/2006 6:43:31 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: CajunConservative

I searched for information on Federal Government Aid to Mississippi's Gulf Coast residents and could not find any hard and fast figures. Do you have a link to the $150,000.00 figure?. I really wanted to see if there was a disparity in the amounts to New Orleans vs Mississippi.


204 posted on 01/29/2006 6:45:26 PM PST by Flifuss
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To: dirtboy

you must be a carpenter...you sure hit that nail on the head.

You have a bunch of brain dead democrats running the show in Baton Rouge and all they are interested in is getting their hands on the money.


205 posted on 01/29/2006 6:50:30 PM PST by cajun-jack
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To: Flifuss

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-4/1137740314310670.xml


206 posted on 01/29/2006 6:58:18 PM PST by CajunConservative (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
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To: Uncle Sham
The purchase price to the agency would be 60% of pre-Katrina value. If this property is in an area where redevelopment is allowed, it will definitely be worth considerably more than the pre-Katrina level. The increase in property value, depending upon the circumstances at the time of redevelopment should be much closer to the overall purchase cost.

Thanks for the information.

Another Question, going back to my example, fair market value of home $75,000. Purchase price @ 60% = $45,000.00. Say conservatively $10,000.00 for demolition, cleanup, and preparation. $55,000.00 cost just for vacant land now. You state if the property is in an area where redevelopement is allowed, the property (just land) is going to be worth considerably more than pre-Katrina levels. Sorry for being a pain, but I'm just trying to understand. So, the vacant land is going to be more valuable than a pre-Katrina home?

I would hope the land could sell for the purchase price and improvements totalling $55,000.00, but that seems unrealistic to me.

Am I getting this right?

207 posted on 01/29/2006 7:00:21 PM PST by Flifuss
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To: Flifuss

We need more info from the ones who wrote the bill. I don't know all of the details, but in general how it's supposed to work. There might be charges passed to the developers or things like that. Need more info. This isn't perfect but by far the best plan that has been suggested.


208 posted on 01/29/2006 7:03:25 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: lsucat

I know I won't. I don't get it either.


209 posted on 01/29/2006 7:06:26 PM PST by CajunConservative (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
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To: Uncle Sham
If they have a mortgage, the agency would pay it off, giving lenders back some, but not all, of their investment. The agency would clean up the property and, working with local interests,...........

This idea makes a lot of sense. Thousands of homes built below sea level in Hurrican Alley were just a multi-billion dollar natural disaster waiting to happen.

............market it to investors for redevelopment.

This is where the idea does an about face back to stupid.

210 posted on 01/29/2006 7:08:47 PM PST by Polybius
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To: CajunConservative
Interesting read. Just curious, is the estimated 77,000 homes outside of the Federal floodplain included in Blanco's statement Blanco said she only really controls $6.2 billion in recovery money that will be stretched far too thin to aid owners of 200,000 destroyed or damaged homes.
211 posted on 01/29/2006 7:16:12 PM PST by Flifuss
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To: Uncle Sham

I agree, when I read the entire Bill, I really couldn't figure out exactly how it was going to work. I'd like it to be scored by CBO. Their the experts.


212 posted on 01/29/2006 7:20:50 PM PST by Flifuss
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To: Polybius

The low-lying areas that are determined to be uninhabitable will be turned into parks or wetlands. This plan helps make this a certainty.


213 posted on 01/29/2006 7:25:27 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: Flifuss

I think that is what the 77,000 number is in reference to. I just know that we got hit by two major storms 3 weeks apart and that there are a lot of people whose homes were destroyed beyond repair. Most people did have insurance but the insurance companies are slow to respond and when they do it is often less than what it costs to repair them.

People are getting screwed over left and right. 99% of the people are out there working hard at getting their lives back on track but they are having to fight for every scrap they get.


214 posted on 01/29/2006 7:30:18 PM PST by CajunConservative (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
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To: CajunConservative

I hear you, I really was unaware about how the block grants were being divided up. I can see why Baker put forth H.R. 4100 now. Not much I can personally do, regretfully, but I will now be watching what the Feds do to help out.


215 posted on 01/29/2006 7:40:59 PM PST by Flifuss
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To: Uncle Sham
Since when are we talking about your home state of Illinois? Or Chicago, or the Daley family, or Rostenkowski, or etc. etc. etc.

No comparison. Louisana is INFAMOUS for corruption. The state has had corrupt politicians since it entered the Union. In the dictionary next to corruption is the state of Louisiana.

Chicago is bad but the rest of IL is fairly conservative. IL used to have Republican Governors that served as a check on Chicago, although lately that hasn't been the case.

216 posted on 01/29/2006 8:56:34 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature - Jim Beam)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Don't be deluded into thinking that Louisiana is the only corrupt state. We at least send our crooked governors to jail not the White House and Senate. Remember the Clintons?


217 posted on 01/30/2006 8:43:46 AM PST by CajunConservative (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
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To: Boanarges
We won't need any money from the Federal government if we are able to push through the tax on the Major Corporations using pipelines across the State of Lousiana to pass their oil and gas to the rest of the Country.

How incredibly ignorant. Such a tax is specifically forbidden by the U.S. Constitution.

218 posted on 02/01/2006 7:33:34 PM PST by Sandy
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To: dirtboy

Mary, Mary, Quite (To The) Contrary
InvestorsBusinessDaily ^ | 9-9-05

Posted on 09/10/2005 9:09:47 AM PDT by STARWISE

Politics: Louisiana's senior senator, whose brother is lieutenant governor and whose father was New Orleans' mayor, is blaming President Bush for "the staggering incompetence of the federal government." Come again?

It's understandable that on the Sept. 4 edition of ABC's "This Week," Mary Landrieu said of President Bush, "I might likely have to punch him — literally" if he or members of his administration made any more disparaging remarks about local authorities and their pre- and post-Katrina efforts. Some are and were family.

Brother Mitch Landrieu is lieutenant governor of Louisiana. Father "Moon" Landrieu was not only mayor of New Orleans, but also later became secretary of housing and urban development under President Carter.

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Despite Landrieu's complaints of budget cuts and paltry funding, the fact is that over the five years of the Bush administration, Louisiana has received more money — $1.9 billion — for Army Corps of Engineers civil works projects than any other state, and more than under any other administration over a similar period. California is a distant second with less than $1.4 billion despite a population more than seven times as large.

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The problem was at the local level. The ambitious plan fell apart when the state suspended the Levee Board's ability to refinance old bonds and issue new ones. As the Times-Picayune reported, Legislative Auditor Dan Kyle "repeatedly faulted the Levee Board for the way it awards contracts, spends money and ignores no-bid contract laws." Blocked by the state from raising local money, the federal matching funds went unspent. By 1998, Louisiana's state government had a $2 billion construction budget, but less than one-tenth of one percent, or $1.98 million, was dedicated to New Orleans levee improvements. By contrast, $22 million was spent that year to renovate a home for the Louisiana Supreme Court.

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"Where did all the money go? Again, the Times-Picayune says much of the money went not to flood control, but to lawmakers' pet projects, from a $750 million for a new canal lock to a $2.5 million Mardi Gras fountain project that ran $600,000 over budget.

Nine months before Katrina, three top Louisiana Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness officials were indicted by a federal grand jury in Shreveport and charged, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Western District of Louisiana, "with offenses related to the obstruction of an audit of the use of federal funds for flood mitigation opportunities throughout Louisiana."


219 posted on 02/01/2006 8:42:32 PM PST by Seattle Conservative (God bless and protect our troops and their CIC. (Seahawks are going to the Superbowl!!))
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To: Sandy

"Such a tax is specifically forbidden by the U.S. Constitution."

Since you are so enlightened to the Consitution, why don't you back up your statement - "Such a tax is specifically forbidden by the U.S. Constituion" - and post your findings here. Since this tax is so "specifically" forbidden by our Constitution I'm sure you will find it clearly defined in text and definition.

I had no idea a major Corporation could NOT be taxed for doing business in one's STATE. And it's stated right there in the Constitution. ShazAAAAAMMM!!


220 posted on 02/01/2006 8:45:51 PM PST by Boanarges
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