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Jimmy Carter: At Least Hamas Is Not Corrupt
Sierra Times ^ | 1/27/2006 | Jim Kouri, CPP

Posted on 01/30/2006 6:11:23 AM PST by FerdieMurphy

When asked by the media for his thoughts on the Hamas triumph in the Palestinian parliamentary elections, former President Jimmy Carter replied that while they have a terrorist past, at least they're not corrupt. One of the complaints by many in the Middle East was the corruption within the Palestinian Authority and Yasser Arafat's Fatah Party.

Arafat himself squirreled away millions of dollars from aid packages that were intended to help the Palestinian people. However, Carter's comment appears to dismiss the years of death and destruction perpetrated by Hamas on the Jewish State.

And now the fundamental-Islamic group Hamas triumphed over the ruling Fatah party on Thursday in Palestinian parliamentary polls, and it's considered by some as a political disaster that will likely extinguish any hope for peace with Israel.

Hamas won a majority in the 132-seat legislature, winning 76 seats. Fatah only won 43 seats in Wednesday's election. The victory gives Hamas the power to shape and possibly even lead the next cabinet.

One of the first statements made by the leaders of Hamas rebuffed demands to disarm and change its charter. Part of Hamas' charter is the total destruction of Israel and the establishment of an Islamic nation.

Israelis are in shock over this development and they wonder how they will be able to negotiate with these newly empowered Islamic Jihadists in their midst. It's one thing to fight terrorists living in the shadows, but quite another thing to deal with them when the are legally elected officials in a sovereign nation that borders the Israeli State.

With peace talks stalled since 2000, and Israel and Hamas bitter enemies, Israel's Interim Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is expected to unilaterally determine Israel's borders on land that the Palestinians claim as their state. Israel already pulled Jewish settlers out of the Gaza Strip and it was achieved without negotiations with the Palestinians.

Olmert, who became the Prime Minister after Ariel Sharon suffered a stroke, repeated Israel's position that peace talks could not resume unless the Palestinian Authority disarmed terrorists and paramilitary groups.

Sadly, Hamas' support by rank-and-file Palestinians is based mostly on their suicide bombings against Israel and at no time has Hamas indicated it will discontinue their terrorist acts.

A big supporter of the radical-Islamic Hamas is Iran. Iranians celebrated the victory of Hamas in the Palestinian elections as a vote by the people to “resist the Zionist regime," the official state-run news agency reported on Thursday.

Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Hamid-Reza Asefi said, “Through its vote, the Palestinian nation chose the path of resistance and is loyal to this and supports it with all its might.”

Asefi said that the level of participation by the Palestinian people was a display of their determination to “fight and resist the occupiers.”

He said that Tehran sent its congratulations to “the Palestinians, the Hamas movement, all Palestinians combatants, and the great Islamic [jihad].”

He added that the Islamic Republic hoped the “powerful presence” of Hamas on the political scene of Palestine would help the Palestinians “achieve their full rights.”

Asefi lambasted the United States for its position against Hamas and said, “The American government only supports elections that secure its goals and interests.”

But, as Jimmy Carter said, at least Hamas isn't corrupt. There's some bad news and some good news for the people of Israel: the bad news is Hamas attained legitimate power within the Palestinian State; the good news is that Jimmy Carter is leaving the Middle East.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benlabolt; carterlegacy; friendofterrorists; hamas; jimmiekahtah; jimmycarter; moralrelativism; paelection; panamacanal; peanutbrained; repost; robertmalley; search; socialistscumbag; tombaldwin; worstpresidentever
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...the good news is that Jimmy Carter is leaving the Middle East.

Too bad this prune-faced, asinine simpleton doesn't keep his mouth shut!

Kahtah needs to shuffle off into the obscurity he so richly deserves after his miserable term as president. He should reflect on his Panama Canal giveaway and contemplate why it was another less than tactful move that has endangered our nation even further.

While he's walking off the precipice into obscurity perhaps he'll hold hands with those other two commie jackasses (one from Hope the other from Hopelessness.)

1 posted on 01/30/2006 6:11:25 AM PST by FerdieMurphy
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To: FerdieMurphy
former President Jimmy Carter replied that while they have a terrorist past, at least they're not corrupt.

Proof that ignorance can be found everywhere.

2 posted on 01/30/2006 6:12:54 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: FerdieMurphy
When asked by the media for his thoughts on the Hamas triumph in the Palestinian parliamentary elections, former President Jimmy Carter replied that while they have a terrorist past, at least they're not corrupt.

While I detest Jimmy Carter, I'd like to see a direct quote in this article by Carter.

3 posted on 01/30/2006 6:13:09 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: FerdieMurphy
As much as it galls me, he has a point. Fatah was a collection of corrupt murderous barbarians. Hamas is at least honest about their murderous barbarianism. With Hamas we have an excuse to dump all the stupid agreements Clinton made with Arafat.
4 posted on 01/30/2006 6:13:27 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Is there a satire god who created Al Gore for the sole purpose of making us laugh?)
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To: FerdieMurphy
ALL I CAN SAY IS...

SICKENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!


5 posted on 01/30/2006 6:13:39 AM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: FerdieMurphy

And Hitler made the trains run on time. Nice reasoning, Jimmy.


6 posted on 01/30/2006 6:14:05 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Jimmy Carter America's first Chi-Com president.

imo


7 posted on 01/30/2006 6:14:14 AM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister.. but we knew what to do.. we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Hamas is NOT corrupt. It's good old wholesome honest evil.


8 posted on 01/30/2006 6:15:07 AM PST by The Red Zone
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To: FerdieMurphy

Jimmy Carter spent his life slithering around in the Democrat party where corruption is a way of life. I don't trust his judgement as to what constitutes corruption.


9 posted on 01/30/2006 6:16:07 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: FerdieMurphy

Hamas kills hundreds of unarmed Israelis as they go about their daily business, but look at the bright side -- they're not corrupt. Carter's perverted sense of values is truly breathtaking -- especially for such a purported "Christian".


10 posted on 01/30/2006 6:16:36 AM PST by Emile (Welcome to New Orleans, aka "The Big Chocolate")
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To: FerdieMurphy
Well huh huh shucks ya know they a might be a killin people and a blowin up babies, but they ain't a takin no payola or bribes there yuck yuck yuck.

JImmy, shut your stupid f*ckin pie hole, go back to plains, do some fishin, beat som attack rabbits with yer boat paddle, and live out the rest of your meaningless exsistance quietly please.

11 posted on 01/30/2006 6:16:38 AM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: FerdieMurphy
Carter says Hamas is not corrupt?

Oh good heavens. Jimmy has fallen off the deep end.

12 posted on 01/30/2006 6:16:40 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: FerdieMurphy

As much as I detest Jimmy Carter and his inane comments, I also realize that he is only doing further damage to himself and the Democratic party by making such blatantly idiotic statements as this. He is the "Southern Baptist" version of Howard Dean.


13 posted on 01/30/2006 6:16:44 AM PST by joflo
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To: FerdieMurphy
When asked by the media for his thoughts on the Hamas triumph in the Palestinian parliamentary elections, former President Jimmy Carter replied that while they have a terrorist past, at least they're not corrupt.

Well there's no actual quote here. I'd like to read what Jimmy actual said - perhaps from another source. However, with respect to Hamas perhaps I guess the view is that it is so much easier when one simply murders opposing viewpoints. No need to waste time with silly corruption. /sarc

14 posted on 01/30/2006 6:17:03 AM PST by rhombus
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To: mewzilla
And Hitler made the trains run on time. Nice reasoning, Jimmy.

Mussolini is the one who made the trains run on time. Hitler was in charge of providing the fuel for burning.

15 posted on 01/30/2006 6:17:30 AM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: FerdieMurphy

It is bad enough we had to live through this idiot's attempt at being president but I think this points to a good reason to cut off all services for ex-presidents. Retirement pay maybe but it pi$$e$ me off that money extorted from me and my family goes to pay and protect this anti-american trash.


16 posted on 01/30/2006 6:18:00 AM PST by Wurlitzer (The difference between democrats and terrorists is the terrorists don't claim to support the troops)
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To: FerdieMurphy

JIMMY CARTER IS A STUPID IDIOT!!!


17 posted on 01/30/2006 6:18:31 AM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: rhombus

Not corrupt YET might be more accurate. Wait until they get their mitts on all the UN/EU money. They can't spend it all on bomb belts.


18 posted on 01/30/2006 6:19:51 AM PST by Buzz Crutcher
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To: joflo

No he ain't. Jimmuh has never screamed on TV.


19 posted on 01/30/2006 6:20:08 AM PST by The Red Zone
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To: FerdieMurphy

Sounds like Jimmyys judgement is just as "good" as it was when he was prez.


20 posted on 01/30/2006 6:21:26 AM PST by Pessimist
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To: FerdieMurphy
That would be like FDR saying in 1936 yea this Hitler fellow has a pretty bad past, but at least he is not corrupt like Al Capone.
21 posted on 01/30/2006 6:21:41 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: SoFloFreeper
While I detest Jimmy Carter, I'd like to see a direct quote in this article by Carter.

Exactly!

22 posted on 01/30/2006 6:21:55 AM PST by anonymous_user (62% of repondents say they lie to pollsters.)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Now give him some slack on this, folks. He got this information channeled from a dead rabbit.


23 posted on 01/30/2006 6:22:30 AM PST by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: joflo

"He is the "Southern Baptist" version of Howard Dean."

No Southern Baptist I knew thought much of Possum Man's putative Christianity after suffering through the one term Carter administration was inflicted upon us.

I did hear many say Possum Man was our punishment for our sins.


24 posted on 01/30/2006 6:23:58 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: The Red Zone

My point exactly in saying that he is the "southern baptist" version of Dean. The rhetoric is the same; it's just masked behind a somewhat pleasant, placid facade.


25 posted on 01/30/2006 6:24:20 AM PST by joflo
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To: FerdieMurphy
I guess it depends on what Jimmy Carter's definition of "corrupt" is.

He probably thinks Clinton was a good guy too.

I'm from GA and Carter is an absolute embarrassment to our state.
26 posted on 01/30/2006 6:24:27 AM PST by kruelio
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To: FerdieMurphy
Asefi lambasted the United States for its position against Hamas and said, “The American government only supports elections that secure its goals and interests.”

Well ... duh!

27 posted on 01/30/2006 6:24:43 AM PST by Klatuu
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To: GladesGuru

I wasn't trying to say he was representative of southern baptists--God forbid!!! But that doesn't stop him from claiming to be.


28 posted on 01/30/2006 6:25:32 AM PST by joflo
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To: FerdieMurphy
They're not corrupt fiscally because they weren't the ones in power for the last 40 years. Given their total disregard for life and human decency, becoming financially corrupt is a mere formality. When they realize that they can kill Jews and put massive amounts of stolen UN and EU aid money into Swiss bank accounts, they will joyously do so.
29 posted on 01/30/2006 6:26:23 AM PST by Reaganesque
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To: FerdieMurphy

If Hamas was not corrupt, now that it is running a government it will become instantly totally corrupt. It is how things are done properly in that part of the world. An official's first duty, regardless of paper forms and procedures is to help his family, get them employed in sinecures, get them incomes and awards. The more bureaucrats and rules there are the more that people who wish to build something or keep property or do most anything will have to get a host of officials to sign off on it. Each will require baksheesh- grease. It is an ironclad natural law and moreso in a people with a strong tribal tradition.


30 posted on 01/30/2006 6:27:52 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than over here.)
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To: theDentist

Actually, if he was historically literate, he could always point out the "terrorist" roots of Israel's own government.

That said, the face and voice of the Palis are now that woman who has proudly sent three of her sons to be suicide bombers.


31 posted on 01/30/2006 6:28:32 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: MNJohnnie
As much as it galls me, he has a point. Fatah was a collection of corrupt murderous barbarians. Hamas is at least honest about their murderous barbarianism. With Hamas we have an excuse to dump all the stupid agreements Clinton made with Arafat.

Well a little history proves your point. When Carter was President, he seemed to be an honest man, but he was the worst president ever. Honesty does not necesarily make good leaders.

32 posted on 01/30/2006 6:28:39 AM PST by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: joflo
He is the "Southern Baptist" version of Howard Dean.

Au contraire, mon ami.

(A little French lingo there to demonstrate my lack of animosity towards little froggies.)

Jimmie and Rozalind quit the Baptist Church several years ago because they believed the church's stance on abortion was wrong. They supported the "woman's right to choose."

Jimmie said "We can't in good conscience remain members of the Baptist Church."

Of course there's far too few pinkos in the Baptist ranks to suit the socialist Kahtahs.

33 posted on 01/30/2006 6:28:45 AM PST by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: FerdieMurphy
Jimmy Carter was the worst President in the 20th century and has gone down so far as the worst ex-President ever. Bubba could pick up this title over time if he keeps opening his mouth and following Jimmah's footsteps.
34 posted on 01/30/2006 6:29:10 AM PST by kevinm13 (The Main Stream Media is dead! Fox News Channel Rocks!)
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But, as Jimmy Carter said, at least Hamas isn't corrupt.

So, blowing up children isn't "corrupt"? Jimmah is an evil fool.

35 posted on 01/30/2006 6:29:29 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: SoFloFreeper
Here's a direct quote:

"Interviewed Friday, Carter said that although Hamas were "so-called terrorists," so far "there have been no complaints of corruption against [their] elected officials."

Source: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/21/133946.shtml?s=rss
36 posted on 01/30/2006 6:30:40 AM PST by jdm
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To: Pessimist

He is apparently able to feed himself and find the bathroom so his judgment probably is, indeed, just as good as it was when he was POTUS, maybe even better with the pressure of the office off him.


37 posted on 01/30/2006 6:31:06 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than over here.)
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To: commish
Mussolini is the one who made the trains run on time. Hitler was in charge of providing the fuel for burning.

Thanks! I can't keep my dictators straight.

38 posted on 01/30/2006 6:31:12 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: w1andsodidwe
We'll never forget little Jimmie alighting from Air Force One carrying his own suitbag (which some of us found out later to be empty) to prove to America that he was just a regular feller.

And who can forget this little weasel turning off the electric lights in the White House to prove that he was conserving energy.

America can never forget the vision of this little insignificant simpleton climbing ladders and nailing tarpaper shacks together for people who can't afford to build their own shacks.

39 posted on 01/30/2006 6:32:18 AM PST by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: FerdieMurphy

No jimmy, they are just murdering terrorists thugs. Maybe you and ramsey clark can go over and join their movement.


40 posted on 01/30/2006 6:34:17 AM PST by Buffettfan
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To: FerdieMurphy

By this reasoning Carter would prefer murderers to thieves? (At least you know where you stand with murderers and such nonsense.)


41 posted on 01/30/2006 6:40:53 AM PST by plain talk
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To: FerdieMurphy

Too many peanuts must cause brain damage.


42 posted on 01/30/2006 6:42:37 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: Buffettfan

Can't Zell Miller challenge him to a duel?


43 posted on 01/30/2006 6:43:25 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: plain talk
I remember a political cartoon published during Kahtah's lousy term as president. It was after he made the malaise comment about the American people.

It showed the prune-faced, peanut brained idiot alighting from Air Force One after landing in Moscow. At the bottom of the ramp stood the Kremlin greeters all with typical scowls on their faces and looking like embalmed corpses.

Jimmie, smiling, says to aid "At last. Some friendly faces."

44 posted on 01/30/2006 6:46:32 AM PST by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: FerdieMurphy
Israelis are in shock over this development and they wonder how they will be able to negotiate with these newly empowered Islamic Jihadists in their midst. It's one thing to fight terrorists living in the shadows, but quite another thing to deal with them when the are legally elected officials in a sovereign nation that borders the Israeli State.

My first thoughts on hearing of the Hamas election victory was that it was a good thing for Israels fight against terrorist. Governments are easier to fight than terrorists hiding in the shadows. World opinion can turn against an abusive government but small terror groups are more often the concern of the police. Now that the Palestinian people have endorsed Hamas and their policies, aren't they all complicit with the decisions of their government? Aren't they all now targets for the Israeli military and intelligence arms? Doesn't Israel now have a right to make war on a hostile government on its borders?

45 posted on 01/30/2006 6:47:35 AM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: FerdieMurphy

They have to be in power to be corrupt on any noticeable scale. IF they stay in power, they will prove Jimma' wrong....again.


46 posted on 01/30/2006 6:51:21 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: FerdieMurphy
And my favorite moment was when he sat in the White House wearing a sweater to keep warm and informed the American people that their standard of living would never again be as good as it had been before he was president.

From that moment on, I turned the channel whenever he came on the screen in order to protect the TV screen from contact with my shoe.

47 posted on 01/30/2006 6:52:45 AM PST by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Memo to Jimmah:

Not corrupt ... just evil.


48 posted on 01/30/2006 6:54:44 AM PST by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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"while they have a terrorist past, at least they're not corrupt"

Lol. Is there a link to a site keeping a collection of Carter's assinine quotes? I'd love to have it.


49 posted on 01/30/2006 6:55:06 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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