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Evidence That 2004 Election Was Stolen
NewsMax.com ^ | Jan. 20, 2006 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 01/30/2006 8:17:56 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot

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To: Toddsterpatriot
The outcome of the 2004 presidential election has always struck me as strange ...

"... because I did not vote for Bush and do not know anyone who did."

61 posted on 01/30/2006 8:56:20 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (What did Rather know and when did he know it?)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

What about "stay out da bushes"?


62 posted on 01/30/2006 9:10:28 AM PST by freeplancer
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To: Lx

You are correct. The Dems demanded state-of-the-art electronic voting machines after the Florida debacle. The were especially concerned that Minority voting districts get them first.


63 posted on 01/30/2006 9:13:22 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: A message
Hmmm, the last week of Oct 04 I was in Canton, Akron, Warren, Youngstown, Ohio.

You forgot that stop for lunch and gas in Barberton. We saw you put $.50 in the Beacon-Journal machine and grab 3 papers too!

Last week I passed Diebold's office on Valley View in Buena Park, Ca.

And 10 miles per hour over the speed limit I might add.

Could there be a connection?

None established yet. But we're following you everywhere go. Be careful.

64 posted on 01/30/2006 9:15:07 AM PST by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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To: Horkster

I've been working the polls on election day in my Ward for over ten years and have never even heard of anyone being asked or have noticed the presence of a pollster.


65 posted on 01/30/2006 9:15:22 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Sweetjustusnow

The Palestinians are bums. They think that the Pyramids are a pile of rocks that have yet to be thrown.
How do you get a Palestinian kid to throw a rock?
Point a TV camera at him.


66 posted on 01/30/2006 9:17:23 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

This is GREAT - Will Pitt is BACK!!!

Gotta love those DU moonbats - they keep me amused.


67 posted on 01/30/2006 9:19:03 AM PST by andyland (www..rightofgray.blogspot.com Rocks!)
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To: All

...all I have to say.

68 posted on 01/30/2006 9:20:15 AM PST by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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To: Ghengis

LOL!!!!

By the way NSA , that was 4 papers and 12 miles over the speed limit. Geez, get it right!


69 posted on 01/30/2006 9:25:22 AM PST by A message
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70 posted on 01/30/2006 9:26:59 AM PST by skikvt
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To: Toddsterpatriot
This crap drives me crazy.

How the heck can we function if we have no confidence in our electoral system. We can do better.

We should have a way to verify the integrity of the numbers. The problem is obvious: We need a way for a voter to verify that their vote was cast correctly. The easiest way is for the voter to be able to keep their ballot and then go on line to verify that the vote was actually recorded correctly.

But then we open ourselves to voter intimidation, which is unacceptable. Can't you just see the union thugs collecting the ballots to enforce reprisals if incorrect votes were cast?

We should be able to use technology to protect our vote. Something like this:

Each voter is assigned a perminant public key encryption code along with a private key. All votes cast are encrypted and published as an official record. Using a voter's public key, you can figure out which vote is his, but you cannot determine who he voted for. Instead, there is a number that is an encrypted key that the government uses (along with the supervisor of election's private key) to unlock his actual vote for tabulation. The government cannot determine whose vote is being counted with the voter's private key, but they can publish the encrypted number (a very big number) as proof of integrity. Now, suppose the fraud is suspected.

First, there will always be a one to one correspondence between votes cast and encrypted numbers published.

Second, any voter can go to a private booth at the supervisor of elections office, enter the number published in the newspaper (that represents their vote), then enter their private key, and see the vote that was actually tabulated as their vote. If this vote deviates from how the voter thought they voted, a link to the paper ballot can be produced (because the voter is authorizing it) by the supervisor's office and a comparison can be made. You could even take a picture of the person holding up the ballot where the votes can be seen. This image is then encrypted and can only be decrypted by the voter.

This accomplishes privacy, accountability, non-deniability, and a paper trail.
71 posted on 01/30/2006 9:27:55 AM PST by BillCompton
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To: Toddsterpatriot

An evil doppelganger has taken over PCR's brain. I used to agree with about every word he wrote but in the past couple of years he's really gone off the rails. Total Loony Toones.


72 posted on 01/30/2006 9:28:26 AM PST by Bernard Marx (Don't make the mistake of interpreting my Civility as Servility)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

It seems to me these machines are safer than people trying to look at dimpled chads.

And I'd remind the author of this book it is Republicans who are in favor of Voter ID cards and the democrats who are opposed. There is a reason for that, and it has to do with the fraud the Rats try to perpetuate in every election.


73 posted on 01/30/2006 9:29:08 AM PST by Peach
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To: Toddsterpatriot

GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


74 posted on 01/30/2006 9:31:29 AM PST by Schichtel (Scorch)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
The chances of exit polls in five states being wrong are no more than one in a million

They weren't wrong, they were just reported before they were properly adjusted to reflect the disparities in the sample demographics vs. the demographics of the people who actually voted.

75 posted on 01/30/2006 9:32:20 AM PST by kevkrom ("...no one has ever successfully waged a war against stupidity" - Orson Scott Card)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
In 2000, Big Media announces that the polls are closed in Florida when they were still open for another hour on the pan handle. In 2004, Big Media starts leaking out exit polls in the early afternoon on election day that indicate erroneously that Kerry is winning big. Both reports were bogus and both could have had the effect of deterring Bush voters from voting. Coincidence? I think not. And yet, the moonbats accuse of the GOP of stealing elections.
76 posted on 01/30/2006 9:37:09 AM PST by Airborne1986 (Well, you can do what you want to us. But we're not going to sit here while you badmouth the U.S.A.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

OK. WHo's got the "Oh No, Not this S##t Again" picture.


77 posted on 01/30/2006 9:44:35 AM PST by roaddog727 (P=3/8 A. or, P=plenty...............)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I meant whether you have beaten the guy up, who handed out these sheets. ´t wasn´t meant serious. :-)


78 posted on 01/30/2006 9:49:49 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: Toddsterpatriot; aculeus; rdb3; Petronski; hellinahandcart; Constitution Day; Tijeras_Slim; ...

It’s tough to write when all they give you is crayons.


79 posted on 01/30/2006 9:53:14 AM PST by dighton
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To: Michael81Dus
I meant whether you have beaten the guy up, who handed out these sheets. ´t wasn´t meant serious. :-)

OK,I understand now.No,I didn't beat the guy up.If you beat up everyone in New York who expressed stupid ideas,you'd never have time to do anything else! ;-)

80 posted on 01/30/2006 9:56:10 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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