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Gang plots border attack (MS-13)
Daily Bulletin (Ontario, california) ^ | 1/30/2006 | Sara A. Carter and Kenneth Todd Ruiz

Posted on 01/30/2006 9:05:38 AM PST by Mount Athos

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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Is W. off taking violin lessons?

He doesn’t want to offend potential Latino voters by authorizing violence. If our government can keep the border trouble low profile (and our “esteemed” MSM is happy to help) the average American will be blissfully unaware.
41 posted on 01/31/2006 3:15:45 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Mount Athos
Homeland Security is "determined to gain control of the border."

I'll believe this when I see it happen.

Estrada added that it shows how frustrated the smugglers have become, but said the plot is a "bad idea" that wouldn't work. "It would be real dumb move," he said. "If that should happen, and if any of our agents are threatened or injured or killed, it's going to create a lot of unity and cooperation."

Unity and cooperation. What nice liberal buzzwords. If this happens, it needs to create a lot of armed violence from our military forces.

42 posted on 01/31/2006 3:22:48 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Bush spied so that no one died.)
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To: Mount Athos

The good news?

They will all be clustered in a few locations and easier to round up.

Dumb criminals........


43 posted on 01/31/2006 3:35:21 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Buffettfan
I mailed a "Bush Peso" just yesterday to the RNC with their questionaire. I took a big black marker and wrote across the bottom "GET THE MESSAGE??"
44 posted on 01/31/2006 3:51:33 AM PST by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: Mount Athos

If you talk to the people who live along the border, you will learn that they are aleady doing that.

And the Federal Government does not give a damn.


45 posted on 01/31/2006 4:01:43 AM PST by sport
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To: R. Scott

Great plan. Screw 85% of the country to pander for votes with 10% who'll never vote for you anyway.

If that's his plan, he's dumber than Algore.


46 posted on 01/31/2006 7:12:07 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: meadsjn; Lurker; archy
I'm 80% finished and hope to be in print around May.


47 posted on 01/31/2006 7:48:03 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Screw 85% of the country to pander for votes with 10% who'll never vote for you anyway.

I think the political master minds believe the “silent majority” will forever remain silent – and continue to vote Republican no matter what they do.
48 posted on 01/31/2006 8:27:17 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: R. Scott

The sheeple will never awaken on their own, but when the right incident comes along, and it will, there will be hell to pay.


49 posted on 01/31/2006 8:29:37 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

Yep. There will be hell to pay until the next Important Item of Interest comes along.


50 posted on 01/31/2006 8:42:55 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: archy

"These are the lads whose training graduation exercise sometimes includes cross-border raids on Belize, to the interest of the Gurkhas frequently stationed there. The last such dust-up of which I'm aware involved Gurkha Paras from C Company, 2nd Battalion, as I recall."

Could you please give me some details?


51 posted on 01/31/2006 9:58:42 AM PST by Jacob Kell (DU-DemonicCrapheads Underground (WAY underground))
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To: Travis McGee
I'm 80% finished and hope to be in print around May.

That'll be TWO reasons to celebrate May 16.

52 posted on 01/31/2006 10:56:06 AM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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The last such dust-up of which I'm aware involved Gurkha Paras from C Company, 2nd Battalion, as I recall."

Could you please give me some details?

I first spent time with the Gurkhas in the early 1990s, following work as a photographer in Guatemala with a military escort prior to my layover/ R&R in British Honduras/Belize. A couple of very bright young Brit officers wanted to pick my brains about generalities- Guat troop effectiveness, morale and equipment- and were both polite and convincing. The British BRITFORBEL [BRITish FORces in BELize] detatchment of the time [circa late '70s to mid-1994] had been a necessity during the time of the Carter Administration, the Brits probably correctly expecting that the Monroe Doctrine would not be rigorously enforced...and the Guats postured and probed several times during the period.

There were several RAF units involved as well as the ground-pounders, with a couple of designitions and squadrons, but an RAF Puma helo flight and a flight of four Harrier ground attack aircraft were the most prominent- a few other types were active at various times as well. The groundpounders included one infantry and one artillery battalion with 105mm Light Guns, which provided very nice cover for repeat visits by the SAS, which may have included ops in Guatemala, about which deponent sayeth not.

There were also Kaibiles cross-border operations into Mexico in this same [early '90s] time period, chasing FAR insurgents who'd been pursued into Mexico at Cuarto Pueblo and El Petén. The resulting refugees added to a growing problem on both sides of the border, and gave the Kaibiles something better to do than pester British troops that were pretty good at shooting back.

53 posted on 01/31/2006 11:17:58 AM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: Mount Athos

That would be freakin' brilliant.
Our President is dead set on ignoring border issues and they're going to make it absolutely necessary for us to send in the troops?
Don't these morons know when they have it good?


54 posted on 01/31/2006 11:23:31 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: archy

Thanks. Were there ever any actual combat between the Guatemalans and the British/Belize forces? If so, the Guats probably were on the worse end of it. BTW, didn't the MS-13 originate in some way from the FMLN?


55 posted on 01/31/2006 12:08:31 PM PST by Jacob Kell (DU-DemonicCrapheads Underground (WAY underground))
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To: onef

see post #2


56 posted on 02/28/2006 11:24:04 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: everyone

There was a time when people stood up against evil men. When the murderers were hung in town square for every one to see. A time when a man was either for this country or not. When Pearl harbor was attacked, we responded with nuclear force and the situation was solved. When the nazi's were doing their genocide tour, the world stood up together and crushed them. There was a time when the word Community, meant somthing. Human trash like MS13 parade up and down your streets, threatining your children and you stand idol. Teenagers beeing mutilated with machettes, police officers being assasinated. Fogrein terrorists murdering by the thousands. And what do americans complain about the most? Gas prices. What do they focus on? American Idol. I am ashamed to live under the same flag as these so-called Americans. I long for the day when the average american has a back bone and does somthing about it. I long for the day that the average american decides to quit depending an incapable (or unwilling) government to act. YOU, my fellow americans are the ones who are going to have to do somthing about it. The United States is THE LARGEST consumer of cocaine in the world. Our government beat the Nazi's....but it cant beat a drug dealer? Do you realy believe that you and the government have the same goal on that subject? The most powerful nation to ever exist, and we cant beat a street gang? This is a load of crap and it is not the america that they advertise. You know what I think. I think its time for EVERY american to man up. Every one has alot of hard talk, but no follow through. The average american is scared. The average american is too affraid of true sacrafice. Too affraid to give what it will take to get this country back on track. And most hide behind the excuse that, our ancestors made those sacrafices so we wouldnt have to. Well, ya know what, the corruption, hate, tyrrany and the totolitarianism is back. Now what.What will we do? Sit around, point fingers and stick peices of paper in a box to pitt against each other to see who has the right to make the next lame attempt. Yeah, I can see our modern society doing that, before standing up for itself. I believe in what america used to be, what it once was, and what it still could be.....but what it is......what we have let it become, is not looking too pretty. YOU decide whether or not MS 13 will strike fear into your community! You decide whether or not that dope dealer will stand on YOUR street corner! YOU decide what happens to those who terrorize your community! YOU are america. You are free. Act like it. You are now free to go back to watching the simple life.


58 posted on 06/18/2006 5:13:28 AM PDT by 10FOLD
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