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The anti-gun male
Julia Gorin

Posted on 01/30/2006 10:00:41 AM PST by Jotmo

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To: Melas
And guns require a certain temperment. As the instructor of the CCL class I took said, "If you threw an ashtray at your girlfriend/boyfriend/husband/wife during your last fight, you might want to rethink carrying a gun."

Absolutely. I find that when I go about armed, that I am a much more polite person, and let things slide, that I'd normally not be as willing to do so.

81 posted on 01/30/2006 11:33:07 AM PST by zeugma (Muslims are varelse...)
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To: Melas
Picking on the gentler people (Christ called them the meek) because they are gentle is pointless and cruel. Cajoling them into posturing as tough guys, when there is no way they'll ever really be tough guys is just reckless and places them in even more danger than they'd otherwise be in.

Just when we're starting to have a little fun picking on the nancy-boys, you have to come along and ruin it.

You are of course correct - the difference between sheep, wolves and sheep dogs covered elsewhere - but the antagonism is due not to the reluctance of the sheep to take up combatives, but instead their lack of comprehension and respect regarding those who are willing.

As to the "more danger...otherwise" comment, do you advocate capitulation for those lacking the "fighting spirit", or do you believe having moderate skill predisposes one to seek trouble?

82 posted on 01/30/2006 11:36:53 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: Doomonyou
My bad. The only pistol I've ever fired was my dad's Colt 1911. That was 40 years ago. I was 4 years old (and yes, I held onto it.)

Nowadays, I rely on my Pitbulls (no safety lever there either) as a first line of defense, followed by my Winchester 30/30.

83 posted on 01/30/2006 11:40:09 AM PST by acad1228
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To: Michael Goldsberry

That one I like. Pistol is pointed off to the side a bit, not obviously loaded and most importantly, it is held by an adult. This one also has a public service type message attached. My main gripe with your earlier one, besides the obvious safety issue is that the gun grabber crowd can use it to our detriment.

Here's an idea, post the photo of your son on www.thehighroad.org. See what your response is there. If they give positive reviews, I'll make a loud public apology for calling your photo irresponsible.


84 posted on 01/30/2006 11:41:14 AM PST by cyclotic (Cub Scouts-Teach 'em young to be men, and politically incorrect in the process)
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To: xsrdx
As to the "more danger...otherwise" comment, do you advocate capitulation for those lacking the "fighting spirit", or do you believe having moderate skill predisposes one to seek trouble?

Want to know the cold hard truth that every self-defense instructor knows, but won't tell you because it would be an end to his business? If you don't have the will to fight, it doesn't matter. No skill, moderate skill, highly skilled, it doesn't matter. Without that primal brutishness, you're going down the first serious confrontation that comes your way. You can do double jump spinning hook kicks or be the best guy on the shooting range, but if deep down, you can't tear his jaw off or rip big gaping holes in his chest, you'll hesitate on the street.

85 posted on 01/30/2006 11:44:59 AM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: cyclotic
it is held by an adult.

LOL! I know many adults whom I would never want to see holding a gun. It's a question of personal responsibility, not age.

Thanks for the website, I'd never heard of that one before.

86 posted on 01/30/2006 11:45:10 AM PST by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: Shady

It's not just men. Women should know how to use guns too. Conservatives get it. Reactionaries don't.


87 posted on 01/30/2006 11:51:11 AM PST by JillValentine (To be compassionate to the cruel is to be cruel to the compassionate.)
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To: Melas

What a great post. I love women who can see things the way they really are.
Some men will never learn the lessons of Nazi Germany etc..

I believe the "meek" Christ was referring to are the people who are meek before God, not man. Also, I don't believe that people who practice their 2nd Amend. rights are posturing as "tough guys". I think that might be an unfair evaluation. I consider people who carry as informed and responsible citizens (myself included).


88 posted on 01/30/2006 11:51:27 AM PST by oneofmany (Proud to be intolerant)
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To: cyclotic
This one also has a public service type message attached.

Perhaps the next cretin who plans on abducting a child will think of that picture and realize that not all of them are such easy prey.

Some folks don't tell their children that guns are off limits, rather enable them with the knowledge of how to defend themselves.

89 posted on 01/30/2006 11:51:55 AM PST by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: Jotmo
That reminds me. I need to order a couple thousand more rounds to replenish my arsenal.
90 posted on 01/30/2006 11:55:34 AM PST by Gritty (“Palestinians are so depraved they're electing candidates on the basis of child sacrifice-Mark Steyn)
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To: Michael Goldsberry

Michael,

Just to be certain, Please don't confuse me with someone who thinks guns are off limits to children. I had my 12 year old at the range with me recently and am teaching an Eddie Eagle class tonight to a bunch of Cub Scouts with another class Thursday.

You'll like THR. Lot's of good gun guys hang out there. Plenty of Freeper crossover too. I'm just a lurker there but they've got some good insight.


91 posted on 01/30/2006 11:56:45 AM PST by cyclotic (Cub Scouts-Teach 'em young to be men, and politically incorrect in the process)
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To: oneofmany

You've completely misunderstood everything I've said. I carry, daily. I'm talking about cajoling those who lack the temperment to carry, into carrying.


92 posted on 01/30/2006 11:57:12 AM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Melas

Not to be picky:

Meek-In its use in Scripture, in which it has a fuller, deeper significance than in nonscriptural Greek writings, it consists not in a person's "outward behavior only; nor yet in his relations to his fellow-man; as little in his mere natural disposition. Rather, it is an inwrought grace of the soul, and the exercises of it are towards God. It is that temper of spirit in which we accept His dealings with us as good, and therefore without disputing or resisting"

I would hope that meekness is something which becomes more characteristic of my attitude towards God on a daily basis; however, I am well armed and would not hestitate to use those arms to protect those whom I love, or even other innocents.

I don't believe the males she is referring to in this article necessarily embody biblical "meekness". In most cases I would guess it is just the opposite.


93 posted on 01/30/2006 11:58:44 AM PST by bereanway
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To: Michael Goldsberry

Hmm, that's nice. He has good form, but it looks like he's going to miss just a bit low and left. It's nice that he's shooting hollow points. Can't decide if it's 357 or 44 mag.


94 posted on 01/30/2006 11:59:54 AM PST by sparkomatic (I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me. Phil 4:13)
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To: cyclotic

Um, the finger is not on the trigger.


95 posted on 01/30/2006 12:01:16 PM PST by sparkomatic (I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me. Phil 4:13)
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To: cyclotic
Please don't confuse me with someone who thinks guns are off limits to children.

I wouldn't think of it.

Thanks again for the website. I'm going to check it out in a bit.

96 posted on 01/30/2006 12:05:26 PM PST by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: Jotmo
Better to emasculate all men. Because let's face it: He's a lover, not a fighter.

There are no guns on brokeback Mountain.

97 posted on 01/30/2006 12:06:10 PM PST by uglybiker (Humuhumunukunukuapuaa)
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To: newgeezer

"Compensating" is stuffing a sock in your underwear like some rock star. Owning guns is just cool.


98 posted on 01/30/2006 12:06:22 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: All

anti-gun male is an oxymoron.

similar to modern liberal and intelligence.


99 posted on 01/30/2006 12:06:37 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Melas

I understood everything you wrote. I don't think anyone is trying to cajole those who don't want to carry into carrying. I think they're saying "If you don't want to practice your right, that's fine, just don't tell me I shouldn't be able to practice that same right."

Unless I've missed some posts from people who are saying we should cajole said people into carrying.


100 posted on 01/30/2006 12:06:54 PM PST by oneofmany (Proud to be intolerant)
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