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Evangelists set to testify - in federal court
The Dallas Morning News ^ | 1-30-06 | Tim Wyatt

Posted on 01/30/2006 10:40:23 AM PST by The Lumster

On eve of fraud trial, Christian investors say they were betrayed

When Gregory Setser's import empire came crashing down two years ago, little was left to pay back hundreds of investors and church groups who funded his International Product Investment Corp. with at least $160 million.

Big-name evangelists and everyday churchgoers are among those who were invited to invest in a plan to import cheap, foreign-made goods for pre-arranged sales to retailers like Garden Ridge, Kmart, Michaels and Pier 1.

But what remained after the Securities and Exchange Commission shut the company down serves as testament to the lavish California lifestyle of Mr. Setser, a former Canton, Texas, ceramic merchant.

Paid for by thousands of evangelical Christians:

A 100-foot yacht moored off Mexico, a private plane and helicopter parked at a Los Angeles airport, and a quartet of well-furnished homes in nearby Rancho Cucamonga..........

Among those who may be called to testify are evangelists Benny Hinn of Irving, Fort Worth's Kenneth Copeland and Florida-based Reinhard Bonnke of Christ For All Nations. Authorities believe they were duped by IPIC's scheme when the company paid them "profits" that turned out to be money taken in from new investors. In a Ponzi scheme, money from new investors is used to pay off old investors.

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: con; copeland; fraud; hinn; setser; televangelist
Hinn, Copeland, Bonnke, Marilyn Hickey, Mike Hayes, Robert Schuller were among those taken in by this ponzi scheme.

And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. 2Peter 2:3

1 posted on 01/30/2006 10:40:27 AM PST by The Lumster
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To: The Lumster

Perhaps Rev. Joel Osteen can buy that private plane for his wife's trips/temper tantrums.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1545925/posts


2 posted on 01/30/2006 10:45:45 AM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: The Lumster

Why were these "good stewards" investing money in this guy's business? If they are truly religious non-profit organizations they had no business investing in a for-profit company. They deserve to go to jail as well. If they have that kind of cash available for investments, they should pay taxes on it.


3 posted on 01/30/2006 10:49:34 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: The Lumster

The love of money is the root of all evil.

Read it, Benny Hinn. Learn it, Robert Schuller. Believe it, all you folks.


4 posted on 01/30/2006 10:51:38 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: TommyDale
I agree. They are simply con men taken in by another con man.

Speaking of cash and taxes, it was reported by Ministry Watch in 2004 that TBN had approx $280 million on hand in liquid assets. That's not net worth, thats liquid!
Link > http://www.ministrywatch.com/mw2.1/pdf/MWDA_031204.pdf
5 posted on 01/30/2006 10:55:21 AM PST by The Lumster
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To: The Lumster
Luke 6:41

"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

6 posted on 01/30/2006 11:02:50 AM PST by apackof2 (You can stand me up at the gates of hell, I'll stand my ground and I won’t back down)
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To: TommyDale
"Why were these "good stewards" investing money in this guy's business? If they are truly religious non-profit organizations they had no business investing in a for-profit company. They deserve to go to jail as well. If they have that kind of cash available for investments, they should pay taxes on it."

I have read liberal troll posts, Undercover DU posts, Loserdopian posts, Independent posts but your's sir has got to be one of the single most incompetent posts ever made on FR.

7 posted on 01/30/2006 11:32:58 AM PST by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: The Lumster

The best part is what the preachers of the false gospel were buying with their money:

"50,000 liters of corn liquor made in the U.S. and stored in a Panamanian warehouse, but no liquor sales permit for Panama.

"7 million latex condoms from Brazil with a December 2004 expiration date."


8 posted on 01/30/2006 11:45:43 AM PST by PAR35
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To: VaBthang4

You think "non-profits" should be allowed to "profit" tax free?


9 posted on 01/30/2006 11:49:19 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: PAR35

I remember a pastor in Oklahoma a few decades ago who bragged during a movie "Marjoe" that he and his wife were going to South America to visit their tobacco plantation. While he was gone, Marjoe fleeced the flock, and made a mockery of the Gospel with his movie.


10 posted on 01/30/2006 11:51:47 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: PAR35

""50,000 liters of corn liquor made in the U.S. and stored in a Panamanian warehouse, but no liquor sales permit for Panama.

"7 million latex condoms from Brazil with a December 2004 expiration date."
"

Hilarious. I mean, really. I don't suppose these televangelists were really aware of this stuff, but it's funny anyhow.


11 posted on 01/30/2006 11:53:38 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: VaBthang4
"I have read liberal troll posts, Undercover DU posts, Loserdopian posts, Independent posts but your's sir has got to be one of the single most incompetent posts ever made on FR."

Please expound. Why do think it was incompetent?

12 posted on 01/30/2006 11:54:33 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: apackof2
Luke 6:41 "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

Perhaps I have already removed the plank from my eye and can therefore see clearly to remove the speck from my brothers eye.

...cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye.Luke 6:42

www.apostasywatch.com
13 posted on 01/30/2006 12:05:24 PM PST by The Lumster
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To: The Lumster

Imagine that! I sure would like to see a more comprehensive list.


14 posted on 01/30/2006 12:11:35 PM PST by Terriergal (W W J B D ?)
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To: The Lumster
And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. 2Peter 2:3

That's so directed at the church marketing bunch. (Rick Warren, Bill Hybels, etc. etc.)

15 posted on 01/30/2006 12:12:17 PM PST by Terriergal (W W J B D ?)
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To: Terriergal

It could not have happened to a more deserving group of investors. How do these people even sleep at night?


16 posted on 01/30/2006 12:14:53 PM PST by TommyDale
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To: The Lumster
Benny Hinn is an "evangelist" like I'm a brain surgeon.

Dan
Biblical Christianity BLOG

17 posted on 01/30/2006 12:15:56 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: The Lumster

Why don't these "Christians" buy food and medicine for the poor, instead of trying to make quick money on a ponzi investment scheme?


18 posted on 01/30/2006 12:23:12 PM PST by TommyDale
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To: The Lumster

Perhaps, I'll check out the site, thanks


19 posted on 01/30/2006 12:27:02 PM PST by apackof2 (You can stand me up at the gates of hell, I'll stand my ground and I won’t back down)
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To: The Lumster

The likely truth is that these individuals took money from their non-profit organizations, invested in this company for a get-rich-quick scheme to fill their own pockets, and got burned. People who donate to these people should get their heads examined.

And if TBN is sitting on a liquid $280 million, then why do they continually ask for more money?


20 posted on 01/30/2006 1:11:53 PM PST by TommyDale
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