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Are Liberals fascist?
1-31-2006
| Randy Sprinkle
Posted on 01/31/2006 1:03:18 PM PST by inpajamas
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By their evil deeds the Nazis pretty much killed Nazism which was a form of fascism in which elitism presented itself, and it exist only as a fringe in society today. Hitler and his boys were bad PR guys for fascist elitism. Nazism was proven evil, but for millions that realization came too late. Only when it came to full term and delivered were many people then able to see and understand the greatness of its evil. Then it could no longer exist as a dream in the womb or a vision of a better world, for it had brought forth a continent wreaked with destruction and death. Because Nazi ideology was proven by its own fruit to be evil, the basic foundational principles that the Nazis embraced can no longer thrive in their past form as evidenced today by the repulsion of the neo-Nazis by society in large. The elitism that impregnated and fertilized Nazism still exist but it must shed its racist and biased image to make itself appear acceptable if it is to flourish. Elitism must mutate like a virus and make itself acceptable to modern culture and worldviews if it is to survive and spread; and likewise it must seek to change modern culture and worldviews to create an environment where it is not rejected. Therefore elitism today has morphed into a new idealistic vision for the world, discarding those things that have been made repulsive and reprehensible by past elitist such as nationalism and racism. The fascist of the post modern world are no longer nationalist but internationalist. What was once built upon the ideology of the supremacy of one nation over all others is now built on the idea that the international community has supremacy over any one nation or nations. Likewise what was once built upon the ideology of one race being superior to all others is inverted into being that all races combined are superior to any one race. Therefore efforts are made to prevent any one race or people from excelling above others. This is one reason for anti-Zionism. The internationalist see inequalities as a major source of division in the world and so base their platform on the promises of a more perfect equal world which they imagine to bring about by social engineering implemented and enforced as law by a one-world governing body.
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posted on
01/31/2006 1:03:19 PM PST
by
inpajamas
To: inpajamas
You could be right and all that, but I have to admit that my eyes are starting to glaze over.
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posted on
01/31/2006 1:04:47 PM PST
by
TravisBickle
(The War on Terror: Win It There or Fight It Here)
To: inpajamas
Uh, is this a vanity or what? Who is Randy Sprinkle?
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posted on
01/31/2006 1:05:21 PM PST
by
Plutarch
To: inpajamas
I didn't bother to read your post, that one token paragraph just wasn't enough to qualify as "formatted". However, to answer your question: all fascists are liberals, but not all liberals are fascists.
Owl_Eagle(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,
it was probably sarcasm)
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posted on
01/31/2006 1:07:01 PM PST
by
End Times Sentinel
(In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
To: Owl_Eagle
Randy: Paragraphs are your friend.
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posted on
01/31/2006 1:09:58 PM PST
by
kjo
To: inpajamas
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posted on
01/31/2006 1:10:24 PM PST
by
Pondman88
To: inpajamas; Noumenon
It has been said that if you scratch a liberal, you'll find a fascist underneath, and I have seen enough examples of this in my own life to know that this is all-too-often true.
Freeper "noumenon" phrased it thusly, and I have committed it to memory (apologies if I don't have it quite right!):
"If left unchecked, in time the liberal fascist marriage of ignorance and arrogance will beget the bastard children of ruin and slaughter."
When people wonder why I became active in grassroots activism, I share this with them, and they wonder no longer. Another way I put it is, "I'm not raising my kids to fight the second Civil War."
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posted on
01/31/2006 1:12:54 PM PST
by
Joe Brower
(The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
To: Owl_Eagle
fas·cism (f?sh'?z'?m) n.
often Fascism
A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
Oppressive, dictatorial control.
Sounds like democrats.
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posted on
01/31/2006 1:13:20 PM PST
by
svcw
To: TravisBickle
I believe Ben Franklin noted that our form of government could turn into a fascist state if government got to large and the people use the public funds for their own self greed and warned us to keep a limited government.
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posted on
01/31/2006 1:13:25 PM PST
by
edcoil
(Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
To: inpajamas
Your assertions are somewhat correct. The internationalism that you speak of is the new fascism...but the one thing it neglects to deal with is the Islamics. For their one world order to succeed they would need to suppress Islam and they don't have the balls to take them on. That's where your thesis fall short. You need to thing more about how the elitists are going to subdue the Mohammedans
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posted on
01/31/2006 1:14:37 PM PST
by
Ouderkirk
(Funny how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather...)
To: Plutarch
To: inpajamas
Though they are called Liberals, that is a misnomer. They are semi out of the closet socialists, in some cases communists, definitely anarchists and mostly un-American!!!!
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posted on
01/31/2006 1:14:49 PM PST
by
Defender2
(Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
To: tumblindice
To: inpajamas
nor do I say that todays liberals are Nazis, they clearly are not.You clearly haven't heard of the indymedias.
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posted on
01/31/2006 1:16:24 PM PST
by
JoJo Gunn
(Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered. ©)
To: Joe Brower
Let every American know, regardless of his or her wishes, that we shall pay any price, impose any burden, force any hardship (upon you), support any enemy, oppose any friend to assure the survival and the success of socialism.
Such is the nature of liberalism and the goal of Democrats.
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posted on
01/31/2006 1:17:41 PM PST
by
Ouderkirk
(Funny how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather...)
To: Ouderkirk
#15. Well Said, Good Definition!!!!:-)
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posted on
01/31/2006 1:20:54 PM PST
by
Defender2
(Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
To: Ouderkirk
[to succeed they would need to suppress Islam and they don't have the balls to take them on. That's where your thesis fall short.]
I agree. I think of liberals as the elani from the book "The Time Machine" who were constantly eaten by the Morlocks. They are mice. Liberal males are defined as those without gonads.
To: inpajamas
Liberal fascism is an effeminate fascism Er, have you seen "The Producers" one time too many?
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posted on
01/31/2006 1:23:01 PM PST
by
Ukiapah Heep
(Shoes for Industry!)
To: Owl_Eagle
all fascists are liberals, but not all liberals are fascists. It's really ironic that the very definition of the word "liberal" doesn't even fit the Left. David Horowitz doesn't even call them "liberal". The word should be an antonym for "fascist", but the reality is much more as you described.
Leftists ("Liberals") want anything but liberty for those outside their exclusive club. Conformity of thought and action is stridently demanded. Tight control of the speech, thoughts and activities of others is their recurring dream.
Where Hitler is given as an example of extreme right-wing thinking, and current Leftists are extreme left-wing thinking, I'm more and more convinced that they are really in the same place on the spectrum. This place on the spectrum is "I want to have control over others so they will do, think and say what I agree with." The spectrum, then, is circular, not linear.
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posted on
01/31/2006 1:23:22 PM PST
by
TChris
("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
To: Defender2
The is someone here on FR who has postulated "We should give the anarchists what they want...then we could kill them and not have to face criminal charges"...a salient point.
This guy is on to something... but he''s missing a few things in order for his thesis to hold. That's where the Heisenberg's principle of uncertainty comes into play.
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posted on
01/31/2006 1:23:33 PM PST
by
Ouderkirk
(Funny how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather...)
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