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[Prince] Harry will go to danger zone
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 2/1/06 | Thomas Harding

Posted on 01/31/2006 6:09:15 PM PST by saquin

Prince Harry is to be sent to Iraq next year as a troop commander and is likely to patrol the hazardous border with Iran, defence sources have disclosed.

The third in line to the throne will join the Army's 1st Mechanised Brigade, which will be deployed to Basra in May 2007.

The prince has told colleagues that he is determined to go on operations and be treated as normally as possible - not kept out of the line of fire.

Defence chiefs, in consultation with the Prince of Wales's office, will have to devise a plan that will not put his life or those of his troops in any greater danger. Substantial planning will go into the deployment and the media is likely to be asked for co-operation on security aspects of the mission.

As a troop commander in the Blues and Royals, the prince will have the rank of cornet, equivalent to a second lieutenant, in charge of 11 men and four light tanks.

The reconnaissance formation will patrol the long border with Iran where weapons, insurgents, drugs and money are smuggled.

The prince's men will use night vision equipment to find terrorists trying to bring in sophisticated bomb making devices.

The desert patrols last up to 10 days with supplies being dropped from aircraft. The work is said to appeal to the soldiers as a mixture of Lawrence of Arabia and Prince 'is a cracking officer' the early SAS long-range desert patrols of the Second World War.

Although the mission will be hazardous, the prince is keen that his royal position will not disqualify him.

"There's no way I'm going to put myself through Sandhurst and then sit on my arse back home while my boys are out fighting for their country," he has said.

Instructors at Sandhurst have been impressed by Prince Harry's approach. "He is going to be a real asset to the Army," a senior officer said. "It would be a real shame if the Palace or MoD did not allow him to go on operations because he is a cracking officer."


Prince Harry will complete his training at Sandhurst in April


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gwot; iraq; oif; princeharry; royals; terrorwar; uktroops; waronterror
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To: MikeinIraq

I don't think it's a good idea. No matter how you look at it. Sorry.


81 posted on 01/31/2006 10:43:33 PM PST by Hildy (The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth)
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To: spectre
When Prince Harry makes amends, he does it in a big way.

I don't think he had any particular amends to make. He was a dumb kid who did some dumb kid stuff, like most of us did, just without tabloid reporters watching. And then he grew up, like most of us did without tabloid reporters watching.

The kid has at least one advantage working for him. Many military commanders have quoted Henry V to motivate the troops, but I'd bet not one was a potential Henry IX.

82 posted on 01/31/2006 10:55:57 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: naturalman1975
If Harry wants a military career, then there shouldn't be too much difficulty unless something happens to his brother (who is also now in the Army).

There might be differences between the US and UK system with which I'm unaware, but is William "in the Army?" He just enrolled at Sandhurst (Britain's equivalent of West Point). Harry's nearing graduation, which is why his posting has come up.

As a bit of an aside, that means that Harry will outrank his older brother for a while. That's the kind of stuff younger siblings live for. Remember when I was four and you held my teddy bear over the toilet? Drop and give me twenty.

83 posted on 01/31/2006 11:06:39 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: naturalman1975
Go back another generation - Her Majesty the Queen, as Princess Elizabeth, served in the Auxiliary Territorial Service during the last year of the Second World War.

IIRC, Princess Elizabeth drove a jeep around during the Blitz, which was a somewhat shocking thing for a Royal to do (though, at the time, she was not thought to be in the short line for the throne).

84 posted on 01/31/2006 11:14:14 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: SFC Chromey

Bump to Chrome Dome


85 posted on 01/31/2006 11:21:49 PM PST by Maximus_Ridiculousness (Chloe O'Brian ROCKS!!!)
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To: jeltz25; MikeinIraq
One of the nice things about freedom is that Jenna and Barbara Bush have a choice as to whether they want to serve in the military.

If either of them were to come serve in Iraq, they would be extremely high-visibility targets. Higher visibility than just about everybody here. I don't like the thought of that at all. The potential consequences of that are sickening to think about.

The protection that would be required for them could draw off of military resources needed to combat the terrorists and train the Iraqi forces.

So, personally, I have no problem with the Bush daughters choosing to serve their country in other ways. Teaching children in an underpriveleged area of DC (Jenna) and performing charity work in Africa (Barbara) are noble ways to serve.

86 posted on 01/31/2006 11:31:10 PM PST by Allegra (You Won't Find the Meaning of Life in This Tagline....at Least Not Today.)
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To: ReignOfError

Prince William is considered to be in the Army, with the non-Commissioned rank of Officer Cadet.

And yes, Harry will have seniority over his brother (and rank, for a while at least as well). William should have joined the Navy - he'd have overtaken his brother faster.


87 posted on 01/31/2006 11:31:58 PM PST by naturalman1975 (Sure, give peace a chance - but si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: saquin

God bless Harry. Dear Lord please protect him.


88 posted on 01/31/2006 11:38:04 PM PST by MeekMom (Praise Jesus! We have so much to be thankful for!)
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To: ReignOfError
IIRC, Princess Elizabeth drove a jeep around during the Blitz, which was a somewhat shocking thing for a Royal to do (though, at the time, she was not thought to be in the short line for the throne).

She did.

And she was Heir Presumptive at the time, and given that the only way she could have been displaced would have been for her mother, already in her forties, to give birth to a son, it was fairly certain and accepted that she was to be the next Monarch.

But at the same time, the succession was secure - Princess Margaret was available (and still young enough that she couldn't get away with doing what she liked at all), with the Duke of Gloucester (who would have made a fine King if needed) next in line after her.

The fact is living in London in the Blitz was dangerous anyway - Buckingham Palace was bombed. The sensible thing to do would have been to send Elizabeth and Margaret to Canada. Having made the decision to stay, allowing Elizabeth to take some risks isn't that surprising.

89 posted on 01/31/2006 11:41:06 PM PST by naturalman1975 (Sure, give peace a chance - but si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: jeltz25
I wonder when we'll see Barbara and Jenna joining him?

Did they go to military academy?
90 posted on 02/01/2006 1:04:21 AM PST by milemark (Proud to be an infidel.)
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To: jeltz25
I wonder when we'll see Barbara and Jenna joining him?

What a totally immature question to ask.

91 posted on 02/01/2006 1:26:30 AM PST by Dustbunny (Can we build it - Yes we can - Bob the Builder - Can we win it - Yes we can - Geo. W. Bush)
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To: Last Dakotan
"If I should ever meet up with Dick Cheney I will ask him why he allowed this rot to continue."

Can Cheney prevent female troops from going to war? I didn't know he had that power.

92 posted on 02/01/2006 1:26:46 AM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: ReignOfError
IIRC, Princess Elizabeth drove a jeep around during the Blitz, which was a somewhat shocking thing for a Royal to do (though, at the time, she was not thought to be in the short line for the throne).

She was the Heir Presumptive, in a very short line - she would be the next monarch unless her mother (then in her mid 40s) had a son.

93 posted on 02/01/2006 5:09:48 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. Pascal)
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To: saquin

That settles it...it's obvious that this red-headed spark plug is not Charles's kid.


94 posted on 02/01/2006 5:13:11 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Oztrich Boy
She was the Heir Presumptive, in a very short line - she would be the next monarch unless her mother (then in her mid 40s) had a son.

This is why I shouldn't dash off that kind of thing that late at night -- somehow I lost the connection to the brain cells storing the fact that the Abdication was well before the war.

95 posted on 02/01/2006 5:18:59 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: AmishDude
It happens to guys who have no direction in life. It would be nice if he decided to be a career man. Although it must make the ranks awkward.

I wouldn't be surprised if he spent quite a few years in the service - his father spent 5 or 6 years in the Royal Navy, his grandfather spent several years in the Navy (throughout WWII and beyond), his great-grandfather, King George VI, was at the Battle of Jutland, one of his uncles (Anne's husband) is a Rear Admiral in the Navy (he maybe retired), his uncle, Prince Andrew, spent 20+ years in the Navy. In other words, the Royals take military service seriously (it was a huge embarassment when his uncle Edward couldn't hack it in the Royal Marines). There was a show on one of the History channels recently (probably History International) that got into all of this (I'm not normally a walking encyclopedia of current Royal military service, I just remember the ones above, and I probably got some of them wrong).

I don't believe it makes the ranks awkward, I spent some time in the UK around a lot of military personnel, and while I wasn't around any Royals that I know of, from their attitude, I don't think they'd care who your parents were as long as you can pull your own weight.

If anything, a Royal not being able to pull their own weight (i.e. Edward) is cause for huge embarassment on the part of the Royal.
96 posted on 02/01/2006 6:57:17 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr
I don't believe it makes the ranks awkward, I spent some time in the UK around a lot of military personnel, and while I wasn't around any Royals that I know of, from their attitude, I don't think they'd care who your parents were as long as you can pull your own weight.

Definitely. I actually served for a time alongside the Duke of York - Prince Andrew, for those who have a hard time keeping the titles straight - and he acted as, and was treated as, any other Naval officer.

I didn't witness it myself but there was also a story circulating around about a time Princess Anne went onto a warship, some minor accident occurred (a cable gave way, I believe) and could have injured her. The officer responsible for that cable was quite publically reprimanded by the Captain. The fact that that officer was the Prince of Wales meant nothing.

97 posted on 02/01/2006 2:31:24 PM PST by naturalman1975 (Sure, give peace a chance - but si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: saquin

What a nice young man! Any chance he'd be interested in Barbara or Jenna?


98 posted on 02/01/2006 2:33:44 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Kimmers

Congrats to your son in the USMC, hope all goes well with his career. You can be very proud!


99 posted on 02/01/2006 2:35:31 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: WoofDog123

Yes, I agree, but we have to be tolerant and Politically Correct now right?


100 posted on 02/01/2006 3:51:49 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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