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Patients Suffer Déjà Vu … Over and Over
LiveScience ^ | January 30, 2006 | Robert Roy Britt

Posted on 02/01/2006 4:53:28 AM PST by billorites

Imagine suffering from chronic déjà vu. You don't even go to the doctor because you feel like you've already been there.

"We had a peculiar referral from a man who said there was no point visiting the clinic because he'd already been there, although this would have been impossible," said psychologist Chris Moulin, who runs a memory clinic at the University of Leeds in the UK.

So Moulin has started the first known study of the condition.

Déjà vu hits most of us now and then. We're struck by the sensation that we have experienced an event before, even though we can't fully remember it or perhaps know it didn't really happen. The sensation is fleeting, so researchers can't study it.

But Moulin figures chronic déjà vu sufferers offer an opportunity to do research that might unlock the secrets of the everyday variety.

The man who thinks he's been to Moulin's clinic even gave details of the visit that never occurred. He has déjà vu so bad that he doesn't watch TV news because he feels like he's seen it all before, Moulin said. Things get tricky when the man is asked to predict what's ahead, however.

"When this particular patient's wife asked what was going to happen next on a TV program he'd claimed to have already seen, he said, 'How should I know? I have a memory problem!'"

Moulin and colleagues have since found other patients, now that they know what to look for.

The condition can cause depression and is sometimes diagnosed as a state of delusion. But Moulin's team believes it to be a dysfunction of memory.

"The exciting thing about these people is that they can 'recall' specific details about an event or meeting that never actually occurred," Moulin said. "It suggests that the sensations associated with remembering are separate to the contents of memory, that there are two different systems in the brain at work."

The problem might involve a memory circuit that is overactive or stuck in the "on" position.

The researchers plan now to use brain scans in an effort to pinpoint the problem.


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1 posted on 02/01/2006 4:53:29 AM PST by billorites
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To: billorites

Wasn't this already posted?


2 posted on 02/01/2006 4:57:36 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: mtbopfuyn

I thought it was.


3 posted on 02/01/2006 4:58:53 AM PST by neodad (Rock Chock Seahawks)
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To: billorites
I read this thread before, I know it.

As such I also know what will happen -- a lot of comical comments about déjà vu will be posted.

SEE, that's proof!

4 posted on 02/01/2006 5:16:00 AM PST by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: Condor51

You ruined it.


5 posted on 02/01/2006 5:31:20 AM PST by sportutegrl (People who say, "All I know is . . ." really mean, "All I want you to focus on is . . .")
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To: billorites

IT'S

(almost)

GROUNDHOG DAY!!!!


6 posted on 02/01/2006 5:32:47 AM PST by Gorzaloon
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To: sportutegrl
***You ruined it.***

(sigh) I'm sorry. My déjà vu is a curse.

7 posted on 02/01/2006 5:33:47 AM PST by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: Gorzaloon
***IT'S
(almost)
GROUNDHOG DAY!!!!***

No, that was yesterday.... Wasn't it??

(oh-oh, here I go again. dam you déjà vu)

8 posted on 02/01/2006 5:36:54 AM PST by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: mtbopfuyn

You have already posted that. Don't you remember? I do.


9 posted on 02/01/2006 5:50:49 AM PST by em2vn
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To: em2vn
I posted it several times..

And I posted it several times, also..

In fact I am really tired of posting it, over and over...

10 posted on 02/01/2006 7:19:49 AM PST by Drammach (In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king..)
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I've already won the lotto.
That's how I knew what the numbers would be tomorrow.
(20-26-28-30-32-45)


11 posted on 02/01/2006 7:22:13 AM PST by evets (God bless president Bush!)
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To: billorites

When I have deja vu I can actually know what is going to happen. That is how I know I am having that. I get lightheaded and know what people are fixing to say. Of course it is fleeting and serves no purpose whatsoever. If only I could have it happen while standing in the lottery ticket purchase line.


12 posted on 02/01/2006 7:35:24 AM PST by sandbar
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To: sandbar

What level of accuracy?


13 posted on 02/01/2006 9:04:31 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: billorites; Lijahsbubbe; aculeus; dighton; martin_fierro
Previous thread
14 posted on 02/01/2006 9:08:39 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal (As it was in the days of NO...)
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To: billorites

Patients Suffer Déjà Vu … Over and Over
LiveScience ^ | January 30, 2006 | Robert Roy Britt


Posted on 02/01/2006 6:53:28 AM CST by billorites


Imagine suffering from chronic déjà vu. You don't even go to the doctor because you feel like you've already been there.

"We had a peculiar referral from a man who said there was no point visiting the clinic because he'd already been there, although this would have been impossible," said psychologist Chris Moulin, who runs a memory clinic at the University of Leeds in the UK.

So Moulin has started the first known study of the condition.

Déjà vu hits most of us now and then. We're struck by the sensation that we have experienced an event before, even though we can't fully remember it or perhaps know it didn't really happen. The sensation is fleeting, so researchers can't study it.

But Moulin figures chronic déjà vu sufferers offer an opportunity to do research that might unlock the secrets of the everyday variety.

The man who thinks he's been to Moulin's clinic even gave details of the visit that never occurred. He has déjà vu so bad that he doesn't watch TV news because he feels like he's seen it all before, Moulin said. Things get tricky when the man is asked to predict what's ahead, however.

"When this particular patient's wife asked what was going to happen next on a TV program he'd claimed to have already seen, he said, 'How should I know? I have a memory problem!'"

Moulin and colleagues have since found other patients, now that they know what to look for.

The condition can cause depression and is sometimes diagnosed as a state of delusion. But Moulin's team believes it to be a dysfunction of memory.

"The exciting thing about these people is that they can 'recall' specific details about an event or meeting that never actually occurred," Moulin said. "It suggests that the sensations associated with remembering are separate to the contents of memory, that there are two different systems in the brain at work."

The problem might involve a memory circuit that is overactive or stuck in the "on" position.

The researchers plan now to use brain scans in an effort to pinpoint the problem.


15 posted on 02/01/2006 11:08:17 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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