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Fitzgerald: Was Any Damage Done By the Valerie Wilson Leak? I Don’t Know.
NRO ^ | Byron York

Posted on 02/02/2006 11:32:04 AM PST by hipaatwo

The CIA leak prosecutor refuses to turn over evidence to Lewis Libby.

Watchers of the CIA leak investigation are buzzing over a series of letters between prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald and lawyers for former Cheney chief of staff Lewis "Scooter" Libby. In the letters, contained in motions filed recently by Libby's defense team and released by the court, Fitzgerald steadfastly refused to reveal whether he has any evidence that Bush administration officials violated the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, the Espionage Act, or any other law by revealing the identity of CIA employee Valerie Wilson.

Libby is charged with perjury and obstruction of justice in the leak investigation, but Fitzgerald has so far not alleged that anyone acted illegally by revealing Wilson's identity. In the letters, which give outsiders a glimpse of the intense behind-the-scenes maneuvering going on in the case, Libby's lawyers asked Fitzgerald to turn over evidence that might point toward such an underlying crime. Fitzgerald refused.

In a December 14, 2005, letter to Fitzgerald, Libby's lawyers asked for "Any assessment done of the damage (if any) caused by the disclosure of Valerie Wilson's status as a CIA employee." In the same letter, Libby's team asked for "All documents, regardless of when created, relating to whether Valerie Wilson's status as a CIA employee, or any aspect of that status, was classified at any time between May 6, 2003 and July 14, 2003." (Those dates mark the period in which some Bush-administration officials discussed Wilson with reporters.)

Fitzgerald declined both requests. "A formal assessment has not been done of the damage caused by the disclosure of Valerie Wilson's status as a CIA employee, and thus we possess no such document," he wrote in a January 9, 2006, response. In any event, Fitzgerald argued, "we would not view an assessment of the damaged caused by the disclosure as relevant to the issue of whether or not Mr. Libby intentionally lied when he made the statements and gave the grand jury testimony that the grand jury alleged was false."

On the question of Wilson's status, Fitzgerald wrote, "We have neither sought, much less obtained, 'all documents, regardless of when created, relating to whether Valerie Wilson's status as a CIA employee, or any aspect of that status, was classified at any time between May 6, 2003 and July 14, 2003.'" Although Fitzgerald said that "if we locate" such documents, he might turn them over, he argued that he has no responsibility to do so, because they are not relevant to the perjury and obstruction of justice prosecution.

In a later letter, dated January 23, 2006, Fitzgerald went further, refusing to provide information about whether Wilson was an undercover agent during the last five years. Referring to a 1963 Supreme Court decision in Brady v. Maryland, which requires prosecutors to turn over evidence that might point toward the defendant's innocence, Fitzgerald wrote, "We do not agree that if there were any documents indicating that Ms. Wilson did not act in an undercover capacity or did not act covertly in the five years prior to July 2003 (which we neither confirm nor deny) that any such documents would constitute Brady material in a case where Mr. Libby is not charged with a violation of statutes prohibiting the disclosure of classified information."

Fitzgerald's January 23 letter also referred to a conflict between the two sides over the actions of Valerie Wilson's husband, former ambassador Joseph Wilson. "You demand access to all documents referencing Mr. Wilson's 2002 trip to Iraq," Fitzgerald wrote to Libby's lawyers in what is apparently a mistaken reference to Joseph Wilson's 2002 trip to Niger that became the focus of contention after his wife's CIA employment was made public. Prosecutors will not turn it over, Fitzgerald wrote. "The relevance of Mr. Wilson's 2002 trip is the fact that it occurred and that it became a subject of discussion in spring 2003. What took place during that trip is not relevant to the issue of whether Mr. Libby lied about his spring 2003 conversations with various reporters and government officials about Mr. Wilson's wife's employment at the Central Intelligence Agency."

Still, Fitzgerald wrote that his office will turn over "all documents in our possession reflecting conversations involving defendant Libby about Wilson's trip, or meetings Mr. Libby attended during which Mr. Wilson's trip was discussed." Fitzgerald also wrote that he does not expect to call Wilson to testify at the Libby trial.

So far, there has been little attention paid to Fitzgerald's statements on the possibility of underlying crimes in the CIA leak case. Instead, much attention has focused on a paragraph at the end of Fitzgerald's January 23 letter in which Fitzgerald wrote that "We have learned that not all e-mail of the Office of Vice President and the Executive Office of President for certain time periods in 2003 was preserved through the normal archiving process on the White House computer system." That statement has fueled much speculation on left-wing blogs that some sort of cover-up has taken place and that the White House has destroyed evidence in the leak investigation. In all the documents made public so far, however, Fitzgerald has not suggested that that has happened.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: byronyork; cia; cialeak; cya; fishingexpedition; gotnothing; nationalsecurity; plame; plamegate; rockefeller; showtrial; smearcampaign; witchhunt; yellowcake
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To: Wolfstar

Fitzgerald was busy managing several other big cases at the same time he was managing this one. I'd bet it was his assistants that messed up the Plame case, and Fitzgerald ignorantly trusted them when he put his seal on the facts.

Either that, or he's incompetent.


101 posted on 02/03/2006 8:25:45 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: savedbygrace
bet it was his assistants that messed up the Plame case...

1) If he was too busy to handle this case, he should not have accepted it.

2) It is his responsibility to, at minimum, review his assistants' work product.

3) It was Fitzgerald's mug in front of the TV cameras during that despicable press conference. It was Fitzgerald asserting those claims against Libby. It was Fitzgerald who sent Libby's lawyers those letters, later filed in court, which denied them access to case evidence, and which reversed some of his key claims made in the press conference.

4) There is another explanation for Fitzgerald's actions besides incompetence.

102 posted on 02/03/2006 8:31:46 AM PST by Wolfstar (Someday when we meet up yonder, we'll stroll hand in hand again, in a land that knows no parting...)
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To: Wolfstar

I'm not disagreeing with you, only saying that the bulk of the legwork was done by assistants, and by trusting them, Fitz made a serious error. From there, I agree 100% with you.


103 posted on 02/03/2006 8:45:33 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Wolfstar
More and more, I think the charges against Libby are a malicious prosecution, if not for political reasons than to cover the fact that Fitzgerald never conducted the investigation he was employed to conduct.

He should be invited in to explain himself to the AG and the President. If he can't explain why he didn't carry out the first elements of the investigation, he should be fired.

104 posted on 02/03/2006 2:17:50 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton
If he can't explain why he didn't carry out the first elements of the investigation, he should be fired.

I think he can explain it.

Addressing deficiencies of proof regarding the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, the special counsel refers to Plame as "a person whose identity the CIA was making specific efforts to conceal and who had carried out covert work overseas within the last 5 years" -- representations I trust the special counsel would not make without support. (8/27/04 Aff. at 28 n.15.)
Judge Tatel in the appeal Miller and Cooper took, as they asserted reporter/source priviledge.

http://pacer.cadc.uscourts.gov/docs/common/opinions/200502/04-3138a.pdf

That phrase is in a recently unredacted portion of the Court's opinion. All of the unredacted material is at ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1571203/posts?page=9#9

105 posted on 02/03/2006 2:23:14 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
That is why perjury has never required proof of an underlying crime. Without access to the truth, there may be no way to show the underlying crime. (A perjury indictment unaccompanied by a charge of an underlying crime remains, nonetheless, controversial because critics sometimes see it as the product of a failed probe.)

Though if Plame was not covered under the law in question, then Libby's answers have no bearing whatsoever on whether or not discussing her was a crime.

In any case, regardless of Libby's fate for his answers, Fitzgerald should be asked to explain his not investigating the basic question he was assigned to determine.

106 posted on 02/03/2006 2:25:02 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Cboldt
I've been looking for cites to cases where a perjury conviction stood, with "no underlying crime." The runaway bride story (Wilbanks) came to mind. Running away isn't criminal, so how could lying about it be?

Was she convicted of perjury? Or filing a false report CLAIMING a crime?

107 posted on 02/03/2006 2:28:50 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Cboldt
AN affair with Lewinski isn't a crime, so how can lying about it be?

An affair with Lewinski wherin he uses his office to benefit her for engaging in sexual activities with him is certainly illegal - and the accusation that he did this (and its converse of punishing those who did not comply) as a pattern of behavior was the basis for the lawsuit.

108 posted on 02/03/2006 2:31:11 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton
Was she convicted of perjury? Or filing a false report CLAIMING a crime?

I don't think she was convicted of anything. But you are right, the charge would not have been perjury. It would have been a flavor of "false statements." Libby was charged with "false statements."

And I realize that my inartful phrasing says that Wilbanks and others were convicted of perjury, naturally leading literalists to discredit the point entirely.

109 posted on 02/03/2006 2:33:11 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
Addressing deficiencies of proof regarding the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, the special counsel refers to Plame as "a person whose identity the CIA was making specific efforts to conceal and who had carried out covert work overseas within the last 5 years" --

Isn't that one of the things he claimed his office had never sought?

110 posted on 02/03/2006 2:34:56 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Cboldt

On the question of Wilson's status, Fitzgerald wrote, "We have neither sought, much less obtained, 'all documents, regardless of when created, relating to whether Valerie Wilson's status as a CIA employee, or any aspect of that status, was classified at any time between May 6, 2003 and July 14, 2003.'"


111 posted on 02/03/2006 2:37:34 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton
An affair with Lewinski wherin he uses his office to benefit her for engaging in sexual activities with him is certainly illegal ...

No it's not.

and the accusation that he did this (and its converse of punishing those who did not comply) as a pattern of behavior was the basis for the lawsuit.

No it wasn't. The basis for the Jones lawsuit was that Clinton came on to her. She wanted to use Lewinsky as evidence to establish "pattern" in the civil case. IIRC, Clinton wasn't charged either, although there were penalties.

The general point is a simple one - the law asks for participants to give truthful testimony, or none at all if you are the target of the case. And lying to investigators carries a risk of criminal prosecution.

112 posted on 02/03/2006 2:38:35 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I thought that one aspect of a purjury charge was that the lie had to be material to the investigation

That sound very logical. If true, Libby will walk.

113 posted on 02/03/2006 2:43:05 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: lepton
On the question of Wilson's status, Fitzgerald wrote, "We have neither sought, much less obtained, 'all documents, regardless of when created, relating to whether Valerie Wilson's status as a CIA employee, or any aspect of that status, was classified at any time between May 6, 2003 and July 14, 2003.'"

Yeah - that reads like a repetition of language from a discovery request by Libby. Fitz is duty bound to turn over whatever he has to support his case.

But now Libby's in a tough spot because the case turned from a leak case into a lied case, and Fitz is arguing that "Plame's status, covert or not" is irrelevant to the point of finding a lie to investigators. There are motions before the Judge right now that go toward settling the question of whether or not Plame's actual status will be an issue at trial.

114 posted on 02/03/2006 2:45:45 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
And I realize that my inartful phrasing says that Wilbanks and others were convicted of perjury, naturally leading literalists to discredit the point entirely.

Well, the problem with the differences is that Wilbanks, for example, went to the police and made claims that a crime had been committed, which required them to initiate a case. That is not even remotely like what is described with Libby.

We all know kidnapping is illegal, and we know generally what it is. Now suppose that instead of saying she was kidnapped, Wilbanks said that someone "gently and politely asked her to go with him while wearing a pink shirt." On its face, there are no elements of a crime, and there is no investigation begun - at least until after there is a review of the law to see if wearing a pink shirt makes the other actions illegal.

115 posted on 02/03/2006 2:48:59 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton
Well, the problem with the differences is that Wilbanks, for example, went to the police and made claims that a crime had been committed, which required them to initiate a case. That is not even remotely like what is described with Libby.

Only in that if believed, the stories send the investigators down the wrong path.

But enough with parallels - with regard to the Libby case, is it your position that lying to the investigators (not only by Libby, but by ALL of those questioned) is okay?

116 posted on 02/03/2006 2:53:20 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
and the accusation that he did this (and its converse of punishing those who did not comply) as a pattern of behavior was the basis for the lawsuit.

No it wasn't. The basis for the Jones lawsuit was that Clinton came on to her.

And as her boss constituted sexual harrassment, as he didn't simply ask her, he used his position. One of her accusations in the suit was that he rewarded those who had sex with him - thus putting her at an employment disadvantage. If true, that hits violations of the law in several different ways.

She wanted to use Lewinsky as evidence to establish "pattern" in the civil case. IIRC, Clinton wasn't charged either, although there were penalties.

He wasn't charged, because it was a civil lawsuit, with civil penalties for the behavior.

By the way, the law that established that ability to establish a pattern in that way was the Violence Against Women Act, which ironically Clinton championed those very clauses.

The general point is a simple one - the law asks for participants to give truthful testimony, or none at all if you are the target of the case. And lying to investigators carries a risk of criminal prosecution.

The point with Libby, is that there appears to not to have been an investigated case - Fitzgeralds office appears to have jumped right past that - and that the other examples you cite have investigated cases as components. Without further explanation, it appears that Fitzgerald didn't look to see if there was even a potential of a crime. Also, Libby was NOT identified as a target of the case, which is also important - but in other ways.

117 posted on 02/03/2006 3:09:07 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Cboldt
But enough with parallels - with regard to the Libby case, is it your position that lying to the investigators (not only by Libby, but by ALL of those questioned) is okay?

It's my position that Fitzgerald was responsible to determine if there was even a potential for a violation of the laws referenced when the request for an inquiry was made, and that since he appears to not have done that, that he should be held responsible and potentially fired. That is not to say that the case should be closed, but that without that foundation yielding a plausible "yes", there really isn't an investigation to compromise and that Libby could have told him truth or lie, and it would not have been remotely germane to the prosecutors decision that a crime had been committed - which is the first element required for a perjury conviction.

118 posted on 02/03/2006 3:20:44 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton
She wanted to use Lewinsky as evidence to establish "pattern" in the civil case. IIRC, Clinton wasn't charged either, although there were penalties.

He wasn't charged, because it was a civil lawsuit, with civil penalties for the behavior.

Perjury and false statements in a civil case are criminal conduct. Starr didn't pursue the charge out of deference to the office. THe Senate figured the conduct didn't rise to a level that warranted removing him from Office. But the underlying case where his criminal lying behavior happened was a civil case. Understandable behavior too, since the truth hurt both his chances in the case, and his public reputation. LOL.

The point with Libby, is that there appears to not to have been an investigated case ...

Miller raised this point, albeit too late, in order to avoid giving testimony. She went to jail over it.

Without further explanation, it appears that Fitzgerald didn't look to see if there was even a potential of a crime.

Either that or he trusted the word of the CIA.

Also, Libby was NOT identified as a target of the case ...

I don't know about being identified as one, but my read of the recently unredacted portions of Tatel's opinion in the "Miller Must Testify" case indicates that Fitzgerald considered Libby as a possible leaker in violation of the pertinent statute.

What's more, if Libby mentioned Plame's covert status in either [page 34] conversation, charges under the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, 50 U.S.C. § 421, currently off the table for lack of evidence (see 8/27/04 Aff. at 28 & n.15), might become viable. Thus, because Miller may provide key corroboration or contradiction of Libby's claims -- evidence obviously available from no other source -- the special counsel has made a compelling showing that the subpoenas directed at Miller are vital to an accurate assessment of Libby's conduct.

119 posted on 02/03/2006 3:29:15 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: lepton
... with regard to the Libby case, is it your position that lying to the investigators (not only by Libby, but by ALL of those questioned) is okay?

It's my position that Fitzgerald was responsible to determine if there was even a potential for a violation of the laws referenced when the request for an inquiry was made, and that since he appears to not have done that, that he should be held responsible and potentially fired. That is not to say that the case should be closed, but that without that foundation yielding a plausible "yes", there really isn't an investigation to compromise and that Libby could have told him truth or lie, and it would not have been remotely germane to the prosecutors decision that a crime had been committed - which is the first element required for a perjury conviction.

Is that a "yes, it's okay to lie to investigators in this case?"

Firing Fitzgerald would be additional remedy, but should Libby get off? And what about Miller? Sounds like she ought to be reimbursed, rehired, etc. since Fitzgerald caused her some pain as well.

120 posted on 02/03/2006 3:32:44 PM PST by Cboldt
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