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Hillary Clinton wears many faces, but none a winner
Tallahassee Democrat. ^ | January 31, 2006 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 02/02/2006 8:54:56 PM PST by presidio9

Liberals are sizing up Hillary Clinton for the umpteenth time, and they don't like what they see.

To be honest, I never understood what they saw in her in the first place. The amazing thing about Clinton is that she's so unappealing. She isn't a particularly gifted speaker. She's smart, but in a conventional and lawyerly way. She doesn't connect well with audiences. Her idea of improvisation seems to be leaping from the prepared text to prepared note cards.

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However, she has defied the rules of nature and gotten better looking over the years, which, along with her soap-opera marriage, probably explains some of her success with supermarket checkout-aisle publications.

Indeed, her greatest success has been at exploiting expectations others have for her. For some fans, she was the struggling career woman who could bring home the bacon. For some detractors, she was ''Lady Macbeth,'' cold and calculating in an obviously political marriage. She was also the apotheosis of the 1960s, for friends and foes alike. For the Children's Defense Fund crowd, she was the baby boomer idealist who worked her way through the system. For the American Spectator gang, she was the former Black Panther sympathizer and acolyte of Chicago radical Saul Alinsky who finally achieved power. After the Monica Lewinsky scandal, Hillary - who was no stranger to her husband's weaknesses - suddenly became the victim in a culture with a fetish for victims.

At every turn, Hillary Clinton's Zelig-like public persona has been a fabrication - either by her fans, her enemies or herself. One telling episode came when she published her massively successful autobiography, ''Living History.'' The book tour was nothing short of a coronation, confirming her gravitas and commitment to ''the issues.'' She portrayed herself as resigned to the fact that she'd have to answer Barbara Walters' questions about her personal life, but she always made it seem like she'd rather wrestle with the hard issues of public policy.

But when The Washington Post actually tried to ask her about something other than how she cried over her husband's sexcapades with an intern, the senator from New York ''declined to be interviewed about the political content of her book.''

Hillary Clinton's latest reinvention paints her as a moderate, even an Iraq war hawk. Few people buy it. Reporters regularly assume her motives are opportunistic rather than sincere, focusing on how every pronouncement will position her for the 2008 presidential race.

Some liberals have had enough. ''I will not support Hillary Clinton for president,'' wrote Molly Ivins, the voice of conventional thinking on the left. ''Enough. Enough triangulation, calculation and equivocation. Enough clever straddling, enough not offending anyone.'' The segment of Democrats who sanctified Cindy Sheehan can hardly countenance a presidential candidate who unapologetically voted for the war and positioned herself to the right of President Bush on foreign policy.

The New Republic offers perhaps an even more devastating critique of Clinton for Democratic pragmatists: She can't win. Marisa Katz dismantled the myth that Clinton can appeal to ''red state'' voters because she won in upstate New York. Turns out former Vice President Al Gore and Sen. John Kerry each did better in upstate New York than she did. And Gore, a Southerner, couldn't even win his home state of Tennessee. Meanwhile, a recent Gallup poll showed that 51 percent of Americans won't even consider voting for Clinton.

Hillary Clinton's success over the last decade and a half has been in pretending to be her own woman while really playing one part or another for the benefit of the media, her husband or various feminist constituencies desperate for a role model to confirm all of their comfortable stereotypes.

That's why there's something oddly satisfying in the possibility that Clinton being herself is politically disastrous. And, if she's really just playing one more role according to some classically Clintonian political triangulation, there's something equally satisfying to the prospect that even her fans aren't falling for it anymore.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hillary2008; hillaryclinton; mrsbillclinton; younghillary
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1 posted on 02/02/2006 8:54:57 PM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9

"But none a winner" - Somebody tell Dick Morris...


2 posted on 02/02/2006 8:56:15 PM PST by BonnieJ
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To: presidio9

Hillorat never could get the guy vote, she is everything we can`t stand. But, she also won`t get the wife vote either.
She lost them when she didn`t pull a Boobitt on Bubba.


3 posted on 02/02/2006 8:59:39 PM PST by bybybill (If the Rats win, we are doomed)
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To: presidio9
Liberals are sizing up Hillary Clinton for the umpteenth time, and they don't like what they see.

Has Jonah been talking to Al Gore again? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I bet Tipper slapped Al right accross the head as soon as she read that first line. "Who have you been talking to you crazy nut, go shave that stupid beard, you look like a damn Islamofacist!!!" BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
4 posted on 02/02/2006 8:59:49 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: presidio9

How come nobody ever mentions the obvious: its more likely that she'll be the vice pres nominee than the pres nominee. Warner/Clinton is the ticket Id predict. Warner would be better off with someone else, but he may have no choice.


6 posted on 02/02/2006 9:00:28 PM PST by OmegaMan
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To: presidio9
Perhaps she should present her views as they actually are.

Or would frogs start flying out of her arse?

7 posted on 02/02/2006 9:01:01 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie because he didn't bake one.)
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To: presidio9
Just a few of her many faces ~


8 posted on 02/02/2006 9:01:27 PM PST by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: presidio9

Nobody with those piano legs will ever be sworn in as this nation's leader.

Even Taft has a better set of gams.


9 posted on 02/02/2006 9:01:29 PM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: presidio9
Clinton being herself is politically disastrous.

She's just stone unlikable.

10 posted on 02/02/2006 9:01:47 PM PST by beyond the sea (Cal Thomas: If only Robert Bork had cried ...................)
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To: presidio9
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11 posted on 02/02/2006 9:02:36 PM PST by skimask (The United States Marine Corps is, quite frankly, the finest fighting force on God's earth.)
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To: presidio9
Poor Hilly. It's looking bad two years out.

I guess she figures it's 1992 and Bubba's little horndog routine can oil up an entire planet.

12 posted on 02/02/2006 9:03:08 PM PST by Reactionary (The Moonbats Need an Enema)
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To: presidio9
Some liberals have had enough. ... The segment of Democrats who sanctified Cindy Sheehan can hardly countenance a presidential candidate who unapologetically voted for the war and positioned herself to the right of President Bush on foreign policy.

Dems should run Cindy Sheehan and Michael Moore. They can flip a coin to see who gets the top of the ticket...

13 posted on 02/02/2006 9:03:33 PM PST by GOPJ (President Bush to Democrats: "Hindsight is not wisdom. Second-guessing is not strategy")
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To: presidio9
"Hillary Clinton wears many faces, but none a winner"

Augh. I wouldn't touch that line with 2 twenty-foot poles...

14 posted on 02/02/2006 9:05:35 PM PST by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain...)
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To: presidio9
So if the hard left doesn't like her anymore. She's gone ''too conservative'' for them. Then who?! Who would satisfy them? I can't think of anyone......maybe , Howard Dean or Dennis Kucinich?,,,,,,
15 posted on 02/02/2006 9:08:21 PM PST by Bush gal in LA
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To: presidio9
However, she has defied the rules of nature and gotten better looking over the years

The writer needs to learn about these new inventions called "glasses".

16 posted on 02/02/2006 9:10:53 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/#quotes)
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To: Zacs Mom; potlatch; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; Lady Jag; Grampa Dave


Some photos look like her face/skin is actually melting.

Others show lots of sheetrock tape and compound and heavy sanding and paint.

More vodka Hillary.

By 2008 your "portrait" in the White House will have to be hidden in the bunker.

But we all know how that story ends up.








17 posted on 02/02/2006 9:10:54 PM PST by devolve (<-- (-in a manner reminiscent of Senator Gasbag F. Kohnman-)
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To: presidio9

bump


18 posted on 02/02/2006 9:12:50 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Darkwolf377

Sadly, there may be some truth to that theory.

19 posted on 02/02/2006 9:14:01 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K virus -only without the handy deadline.)
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To: presidio9
It is the basic Clinton triangulation.

Molly Ivins is not going to "support" her? When? In some Iowa primary where she throws her support to Robert Mugabe (or whomever the Moore/Sheehan/Streisand/Kennedy/Kerry/Dean 'Rats) deem worthy?

When/if (God forbid) the Hildebeast runs for Prez against any Pubbie and who is MOlly goingto support? The Pubbie?

Molly (like the rest of the left) is lying through her teeth (AGAIN).

20 posted on 02/02/2006 9:25:52 PM PST by mcenedo (lying liberal media - our most dangerous and powerful enemy)
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To: presidio9

Yeah, Jonah. We hate those wannabes who cash in on family ties.


21 posted on 02/02/2006 9:30:17 PM PST by IRememberElian
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To: presidio9

Hillary really stepped on her schlong with that "Plantation" remark........
No way Americans will EVER vote for a woman with a schlong........


22 posted on 02/02/2006 9:32:17 PM PST by tcrlaf
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To: Zacs Mom

Ahhh! Egads! I think you just gave me nightmares tonight!!


23 posted on 02/02/2006 9:56:32 PM PST by proud_yank (I CAN'T RUN MY SUV ON PELOSI'S HOT AIR)
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To: presidio9
  <=This is a horror film.

<=This is real life.

24 posted on 02/02/2006 10:00:19 PM PST by quantim (If the Constitution were perfect it wouldn't have included the Senate.)
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To: presidio9
maybe the democrats will wakeup and vote for someone else during the primary's but I doubt it, their stuck with her whether they like it or not.
25 posted on 02/02/2006 10:22:37 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: presidio9
At every turn, Hillary Clinton's Zelig-like public persona has been a fabrication...

Some weeks ago, I saw an interview (History Channel?) with Bill Clinton about Franklin Roosevelt. The (impeached and disbarred former president) Clinton was beaming when he said (I paraphrase) FDR claimed that the main qualification to be President was that one needs to be a good ACTOR. I think that Mister Clinton repeated this twice. You could easily tell that it was his his view as well.

Hillary Rodham lies with no less frequency and no more compunction than her alleged husband. She's just not very good at it. (For example, do you believe that she has no idea where the billing records came from or who hired Craig Livingstone? And, did you know that she was named after Sir Edmond Hillary?)

She wants to be a presidential poser too. She thinks that by the right combination of fictional constructs, she will be electable. The problem is that the "triangulation" strategy is becoming transparent.

I expect the Dem voters to nominate Hillary Rodham. I expect her to pull a number of eleventh hour Hollywood stunts (think sympathy here). I also expect the national electorate to have a healthy fear of a woman who won't reveal her Wellesley senior theses; and who can't be trusted not to pardon wealthy donors, FALN terrorists, or to steal White House china.

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26 posted on 02/02/2006 10:22:46 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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27 posted on 02/02/2006 10:24:52 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: tcrlaf
Hillary really stepped on her schlong with that "Plantation" remark........
No way Americans will EVER vote for a woman with a schlong........

I knew it your a Hoosier! :)

28 posted on 02/02/2006 10:26:22 PM PST by Echo Talon
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29 posted on 02/02/2006 10:26:42 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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30 posted on 02/02/2006 10:27:35 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: quantim

quantim wins...egad!


31 posted on 02/02/2006 11:29:17 PM PST by Tornear
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To: Zacs Mom; presidio9
One more face.

(Hope she got that tooth fixed, it's a bit distracting. Isn't there a term for that, something like "haggle-toothed"? Wonder how much we had to pay to fix that one for her.)

There's no way she can last till the 2012 election cycle, she's pretty much past expired-date already.


32 posted on 02/02/2006 11:33:39 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: Senator Goldwater
Nobody with those piano legs will ever be sworn in as this nation's leader.

And that's an insult to piano legs! ;-)


33 posted on 02/02/2006 11:54:29 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Bush gal in LA

They still are enrapt with John Kerry, if you can believe what you read at the DUmmies site.


34 posted on 02/02/2006 11:55:20 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Lurch?! Again? What? !Do these people have a death wish? OR WHAT? sheesh......Maybe they LIKE losing elections. I can't figure out the DU dummies anymore. I guess it's cause he ''stood up'' for them and supported that losing ''fake out'' filibuster. BROTHER! ......All I want from them is a little imagination, please not Lurch again. Anyway if they want to go MORE liberal they should pick Russ Feingold. I just heard on Fox that he was the only vote out of the whole senate that voted no to extending the patriot act. Can you believe that guy would rather we have no protection at all? These RATS are really jumping off a cliff trying to score their political points against our president. I just hope we make it to 2007 the way the RATS want to PROTECT our civil liberties!
35 posted on 02/03/2006 12:23:22 AM PST by Bush gal in LA
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36 posted on 02/03/2006 12:25:33 AM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K virus -only without the handy deadline.)
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37 posted on 02/03/2006 12:26:15 AM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K virus -only without the handy deadline.)
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38 posted on 02/03/2006 12:31:04 AM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K virus -only without the handy deadline.)
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39 posted on 02/03/2006 12:31:22 AM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K virus -only without the handy deadline.)
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To: presidio9
"However, she has defied the rules of nature and gotten better looking over the years...."

Surely you jest, Mr. Goldberg!

40 posted on 02/03/2006 12:32:07 AM PST by nightdriver
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41 posted on 02/03/2006 12:37:54 AM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K virus -only without the handy deadline.)
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42 posted on 02/03/2006 1:47:45 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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43 posted on 02/03/2006 1:49:30 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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44 posted on 02/03/2006 1:50:55 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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45 posted on 02/03/2006 1:52:35 AM PST by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: Baynative
If there's anything we should have learned by now it's; never, never, NEVER underestimate the Clintons.

Exactly! Bill was not given a gnat's chance prior to the Dem convention. (Remember Bush 41 was at 90+ approval one year out?)

Silly pictures and name-calling will not win the day.

46 posted on 02/03/2006 3:43:02 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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To: presidio9

Now I know what killed Harry Carey.


47 posted on 02/03/2006 5:48:53 AM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: presidio9

There wil be PLENTY of Hillary's "bath-water drinkers" voting for her highness....even AFTER they hear her SCREECHES!!


48 posted on 02/03/2006 9:06:18 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience. T)
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To: presidio9
'HIATUS' FOR HILLARY?
49 posted on 02/03/2006 9:25:50 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: BonnieJ
bump

IS DICK MORRIS AN IDIOT? OR IS HE STILL ON THE CLINTON PAYROLL?



50 posted on 02/03/2006 9:27:29 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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