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At times up to 20 gang members have set upon an isolated individual

WOW! 20 to 1, that's disgusting! Yeah I know what you mean about the majority wanting such people out. All over the states there are tons of illegal Mexicans who we want to go back home. Although, unlike Muslims, Mexicans do have some good points, like courage and honor. But they go in for multiple attackers against single/fewer targets as well. They like knives more than Americans do too.

Still, we have guns, and I am damn glad we do. Our Founders knew when everyone is armed manners are much better, particularly on the part of new arrivals.

The most troubling things about Australia is that Conservative Howard is in there, with a big majority, and there are still these immigration problems. What happens when Labor gets back in? (Or the Dems here, for that matter?)

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Australia does have a detention system for illegal arrivals and that has widespread support. I don't think Labor could dismantle it. The immigrants that are the problem are the ones that arrived from Lebanon during the civil war in the 1970s - or should I say their offspring. There are no problems with other groups. The problem is also confined mainly to Sydney where there is a Labor government and the police are under state control. A change of government there could do wonders and an election is due in 2007.