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Area Muslims React With Tempered Anger--Some Say Depiction Overstepped Liberties [DC]
Washington Post ^ | 2-4-06 | Caryle Murphy

Posted on 02/04/2006 6:11:10 PM PST by SJackson

Wearing a brown golf cap against the cold drizzle, Rocky Omary stood outside Walima Cafe in Falls Church, where he and about 50 other men of Middle Eastern descent had just watched the Tunisian soccer team take a drubbing from the Nigerians.

That trouncing was bad enough. But Omary had other, more disturbing, insults on his mind: specifically, the recent publication in European newspapers of cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad as a terrorist.

(Nikki Kahn - The Washington Post) "I've been getting a lot of e-mails about it, and I'm distributing them all," said Omary, a Damascus native who sells real estate in Northern Virginia. "There is a limit to freedom. There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. Let's have some respect."

A few miles away at the All Dulles Area Muslim Society mosque in Sterling, Zaki Al Barzinji, 16, was equally upset.

"Just because you can say something doesn't mean you should say something," the teenager said. "If somebody showed a picture of the Pope with a bomb on his head, that would cause a great public outcry. Nobody would be talking about freedom of speech."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: cartoons; fallschurch; loudoun; muslimamericans; virginia
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1 posted on 02/04/2006 6:11:12 PM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

But Mohammad was a terrorist. I don't get it. ;)


2 posted on 02/04/2006 6:12:42 PM PST by Chgogal (CNN, the network that enabled Saddam.)
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To: SJackson

Bwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


3 posted on 02/04/2006 6:12:47 PM PST by Cornpone (Who Dares Wins -- Defame Islam Today -- Tell the Truth About Mohammed)
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To: Chgogal

They expect you to deny reality, and not rub their noses in it.


4 posted on 02/04/2006 6:13:51 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: SJackson

Where's this guy been? Just last week, Kanye West posing as the crucified Jesus was pretty much met with a collective Christian shrug.


5 posted on 02/04/2006 6:14:16 PM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: Cornpone

If the pope was bombing and threatening the world, he'd deserve it, too. You can't demand respect. It must be earned.


6 posted on 02/04/2006 6:14:52 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: SJackson
"Just because you can say something doesn't mean you should say something," the teenager said. "If somebody showed a picture of the Pope with a bomb on his head, that would cause a great public outcry. Nobody would be talking about freedom of speech."

Just because you can say something doesn't mean you should say something.

7 posted on 02/04/2006 6:15:09 PM PST by sinkspur (Trust, but vilify.)
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To: SJackson
"There is a limit to freedom. There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. Let's have some respect."

Let them show some respect to the non-Muslims of the world. Until then, we're taking them at their word--and deed--about intifadah and jihad.

8 posted on 02/04/2006 6:16:42 PM PST by American Quilter (If you wish for peace, prepare for war.)
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To: SJackson

Europeans could have defused the situation by apologizing instead of staking out a hard-line position of upholding free speech, he said.

Yeah, those pesky Europeans, not letting the Muslims dictate how life should be run in a nonmuslim country.


9 posted on 02/04/2006 6:16:53 PM PST by bordergal
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To: SJackson

The only reason these maggots aren't out in the streets protesting and doing what they do over in Europe is because they know for a fact that the great majority of Americans do NOT support their Cult and do see them for what they are.

Let them Protest as is their right, but boys, start getting stupid and rioting and a case of whoopass will be opened up on you so fast it will make your turban spin.


10 posted on 02/04/2006 6:19:12 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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To: SJackson

You hate the West, Omary. Why are you here ?


11 posted on 02/04/2006 6:19:20 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: SJackson
"Just because you can say something doesn't mean you should say something," the teenager said. "If somebody showed a picture of the Pope with a bomb on his head, that would cause a great public outcry. Nobody would be talking about freedom of speech."

Doesn't mean you should burn down embassies or threaten to kill and behead people either.... DUH!

12 posted on 02/04/2006 6:19:21 PM PST by abner (Looking for a new tagline- Next outrage please!- Got it! PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS LOST IN THE USA!)
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To: SJackson
There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. Let's have some respect.

This matter doesn't show disrespect for muslims...it tells the truth about islam. And islam is, at its heart, pure evil.

Muslims define themselves so closely with that evil that they can't see it for what it is. I suggest Jesus died for muslims as well as the rest of us.

But islam is, IMHO, purely Satanic.

13 posted on 02/04/2006 6:21:27 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Chgogal

We know he was crazy, a pedophile and a false prophet as well.
The fruits of Islam speak for themselves. Especially regarding the abuse of women IMO.

I have an open mind to investigate what the truth seems to be, and after a lot of reading the above is my conclusion regarding the cult Islam.


14 posted on 02/04/2006 6:22:25 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: SJackson
Anywhere Muslims are a majority, see how much freedom they permit "infidels."

Radical Islam is an insane murder cult; moderate Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.

15 posted on 02/04/2006 6:23:15 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: SJackson
"Just because you can say something doesn't mean you should say something,"

Sure it does. Mad Mo is a pedophile, camel *&^*#@& pig.

16 posted on 02/04/2006 6:24:21 PM PST by Founding Father (The War Against Western Civilization Has Begun)
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To: SJackson
Who, in their right mind would give respect to an ideology hose practitioners incite to murder at the slightest perceived offense. These whining dogs should be deported for supporting the terrorist organization that is islam.

I spit on Islam and its practitioners, their obscene book of hate and the pedophile founder.

17 posted on 02/04/2006 6:24:55 PM PST by isrul
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19 posted on 02/04/2006 6:25:35 PM PST by Cindy
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To: sinkspur

He's just a kid. But he's an effin' idiot kid. Maybe better to waste him now than to let him grow up. Everybody likes kittens, it's what they grow up to be that they sometimes don't like.


20 posted on 02/04/2006 6:27:52 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: sinkspur

Just because you can say something doesn't mean you should say something.


You don't get it..


21 posted on 02/04/2006 6:28:11 PM PST by silentreignofheroes
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To: sinkspur

Why do I get the idea that if someone posted a pic of the pope with a bomb on his head, it would generate a collective yawn?


22 posted on 02/04/2006 6:28:22 PM PST by jwalburg (If I have not seen as far as others, it is because of the giants standing on my shoulders.)
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To: A CA Guy

I would have to completely agree with you. It is about time the world community discussed the cultural divide between Islam and the rest of the world.

Under no circumstances can we allow ourselves to be dictated to by any culture. No one is forcing the Muslims (a) to immigrate to Denmark and (b) to read the papers. The Muslims are free to go back to their countries of origin if they choose not to assimilate. Obviously their countries "suck" otherwise the Danes would be immigrating instead.


23 posted on 02/04/2006 6:28:52 PM PST by Chgogal (CNN, the network that enabled Saddam.)
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To: silentreignofheros

No. You don't understand his reply. Maybe you should ask him about it first.


24 posted on 02/04/2006 6:29:50 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: SJackson

It seems like the Muslims in the US are kind of wimpy compared to their counterparts abroad.

Or perhaps they know we enforce the law, and take troublemakers straight to jail?


25 posted on 02/04/2006 6:29:57 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: SJackson
Muslims (on the whole) keep their bombs in their Buicks, their women in bags, and their collective heads in their butts, and some of them claim they are "entitled to respect"?

Is the culture of the head hunters of Borneo entitled to equal respect with the West? How about the culture of the Aztecs (if revived)? Or, the Druids? Or, the Nazis?

The central problem is that the Muslims are, by modern standards, uncivilized. Everyone tap dances around this point, but it is the central issue. Muslims should no more be allowed to have nuclear weapons than three-year-olds should have loaded police .38s. It's as simple as that.

Did I miss anything?

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "NY Times Touts Dubious Conclusions on School Quality"

26 posted on 02/04/2006 6:30:28 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Hillary! delendum est.)
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To: Chi-townChief
Where's this guy been? Just last week, Kanye West posing as the crucified Jesus was pretty much met with a collective Christian shrug.

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27 posted on 02/04/2006 6:32:23 PM PST by don-o
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To: ClaireSolt
Part of the problem here is that Moslems usually can't imagine freedom of speech. It's certainly not anything they expected when they emigrated to the West.

Still, we play rough. Remember this one:

http://www.abouttownguide.com/dutchess/articles/spring02/images/irish.gif

 

28 posted on 02/04/2006 6:32:37 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: SJackson
We don't want what is happening in Europe . . . to cross over to the United States," ADAMS Deputy Imam Sheikh Rashid Lamptey told about 150 men and women attending mid-day prayers.....

Damn straight, Mr. Lamptey....most of Europe has been disarmed. There is no need to remind you that America has not been disarmed. If a bunch of lunatic muslums go around here threatening to kill and terrorize people for putting up a cartoon, you will likely to meet up with some counter protests.

European style protests here will get ugly in a hurry IMO.

29 posted on 02/04/2006 6:33:05 PM PST by B.O. Plenty (Islam, liberalism and abortions are terminal..)
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To: SJackson

Maybe we should declare a Jihad against Rocky Omary and his fifty fellow terrorists. After all, fair is fair.


30 posted on 02/04/2006 6:33:31 PM PST by FreePaul
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To: silentreignofheros
You don't get it..

Oh, I get it. Now it's about doing everything we can to rub the Muslims' noses in cartoons that we know are offensive to them.

IOW, an escalation of the situation.

31 posted on 02/04/2006 6:33:38 PM PST by sinkspur (Trust, but vilify.)
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To: SJackson

Yo Rocky, what are you doing living amongst the infidels?


32 posted on 02/04/2006 6:33:46 PM PST by umgud (uncompassionate conservative)
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To: SJackson
"Just because you can say something doesn't mean you should say something," the teenager said. "If somebody showed a picture of the Pope with a bomb on his head, that would cause a great public outcry. Nobody would be talking about freedom of speech."

Lighten up a bit Zaki baby! I am a catholic and you can print all of the 'pope headbomb' cartoons that you want and I will not be offended because I know the truth. Obviously you don't.......

33 posted on 02/04/2006 6:33:59 PM PST by eeriegeno
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To: sinkspur
They're just like us. Really.

Except insane.

34 posted on 02/04/2006 6:35:04 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("It'sTime for Republicans to Start Toeing the Conservative Line, NOT the Other Way Around!")
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To: Chgogal

It's a cult that hates it's own women. Proof positive that there is no GOD there as far as I am concerned.


35 posted on 02/04/2006 6:35:12 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: johniegrad
He's just a kid. But he's an effin' idiot kid. Maybe better to waste him now than to let him grow up.

You're a kid too, no matter how old you are.

36 posted on 02/04/2006 6:35:36 PM PST by sinkspur (Trust, but vilify.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"You hate the West, Omary. Why are you here ?"

He is here to enjoy the American rights with out any obligations. No obligation for Muslims to respect other religions. No mention of the fact the Christianity is banned in Saudi Arabia.

American Muslims will have to choose someday. And we non Muslims (Infidels) will have to come to terms with the true nature of Islam. Its a death cult that strides to put the planet back in the middle ages and kill us in the process.



37 posted on 02/04/2006 6:35:54 PM PST by dinok
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To: SJackson

It's so grand to have Middle-Easter brain-trusts define what our Constitution does and doesn't allow.

Multi-cultural my ass. There may be more than one culture acceptable these days, but more and more mine isn't one of them.


38 posted on 02/04/2006 6:36:19 PM PST by DoughtyOne (If it's a "Religion of Peace", some folks just aren't very religious.)
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To: SJackson
Everyone knows the Pope wouldn't put a bomb on his head so the Pope must be smarter than Mohammed.
39 posted on 02/04/2006 6:36:27 PM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: SJackson

They better not even think about talking about the extent of my liberties. That is when I take out my Huskavarna and sleep with my double headed axe.

Overstep my liberties. F* that; that is where I draw the line, when they come in and tell me what my liberties are. I see red.


40 posted on 02/04/2006 6:36:31 PM PST by Porterville (They took our jobs!!! Der dook er jibs!!! Deer took er jabs!!!)
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To: SJackson

"Technically, you have the right to walk into a crowded theater and yell 'Fire,' " said Uzma Unus, 34, a teacher in Sterling who is also vice president of ADAMS. "But is that responsible?"

This person is a teacher? If she is an naturalized citizen, I don't understand how she passed the test.


41 posted on 02/04/2006 6:36:37 PM PST by Sue Bob
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To: johniegrad

No. You don't understand his reply.

Evidently you do. What would the outcry be?


42 posted on 02/04/2006 6:36:50 PM PST by silentreignofheroes
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To: SJackson

I've seen pictures of the pope with a huge beer stein.

I laughed.

Muslims cannot stomach truth.


43 posted on 02/04/2006 6:37:59 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..".Liberty is the right and hope of all humanity"GW Bush)
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To: silentreignofheros

I didn't say that I did. I just suggested you ask him about it before assuming the worst.


44 posted on 02/04/2006 6:38:25 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: Leatherneck_MT

Many Americans have guns.

Europeans do not.


45 posted on 02/04/2006 6:38:54 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..".Liberty is the right and hope of all humanity"GW Bush)
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To: Chgogal
NO ONE, but no one should ever bow to the wishes of the evil death cult of islam!!!

Why is it fair for islam to run cartoons that depict Jews and Christians in horrible racist caricature's, but if someone does the same to islam they go nuts?

If islam cannot take it, don't dish it out!

There are 14 wars talking place in the world -- and they all have one thing in common. Islam is at war with their neighbors - from the muslims killing Christians in the Philippines, to the slaughter of Buddhists in Thailand by muslims, from the murder of Hindus in India, to the blowing up of Jews in Israel by the followers of Islam, to the enslavement and slaughter of Christians in the Sudan, to the slaughter of children in Russia by the followers of islam and the killing of Van Gogh in the Netherlands -- only one common thread exists --- islam's followers. islam is at war with the human race -- it is time the human race declare war on islam -- do we really want the terrorists islamists to blow up New York with a nuclear bomb!!! If we do nothing that is what will take place!
46 posted on 02/04/2006 6:39:37 PM PST by GaryMontana (The future belongs to the bold, not the cowards who hide under rags (ragheads)!)
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To: SJackson

I can see how Muslims might get upset at the depiction of Muhammed, how they might even protest. But what I don't see and can't accept is the way that they're protesting. Burning embassies and threatening mass murder, kidnappings, and beheadings; why would they expect Westerners to respond any way but negatively to that?


47 posted on 02/04/2006 6:40:32 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: TASMANIANRED

"Many Americans have guns.

Europeans do not."

Many Europeans are brain dead then.


48 posted on 02/04/2006 6:41:43 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

"Let them Protest as is their right, but boys, start getting stupid and rioting and a case of whoopass will be opened up on you so fast it will make your turban spin."(Leatherneck_MT)

I'll second that. If TROP tries any of that s*** they've been pulling in other places like Australia and Denmark, I will not be idley standing by, that's for sure. I've had it with the islamic death cult bastards. We stood down on 9/11, never again. They don't belong here and I'd like to show them the door.


49 posted on 02/04/2006 6:42:48 PM PST by Imperialist
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To: GaryMontana

There is not one word, one coma one period that I disagree with. You are 100% correct. Now the question is how do we win the war? Suggestions please.


50 posted on 02/04/2006 6:43:01 PM PST by Chgogal (CNN, the network that enabled Saddam.)
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