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[New Zealand PM] Helen Clark says [Muhammad] cartoon issue not freedom of press issue (surrenders)
Newstalk ZB ^ | 6/02/2006

Posted on 02/05/2006 3:14:11 PM PST by NZerFromHK

The Prime Minister has spoken out about the Mohammad cartoon controversy, saying she does not think it is a freedom of the press issue.

Helen Clark says the New Zealand press is free, and politicians do not dictate what it can and cannot print.

She says it is a question of judgement.

She does not think the publication of the cartoons does anything to bring communities together in New Zealand or around the world.

Helen Clark says the New Zealand government's position is very strongly in favour of respecting all religions and working to bring communities together, not drive them apart.

New Zealand and Jordan are the only countries outside Europe to publish the caricatures.

The Prime Minister says the decision by the Dominion Post and Christchurch Press to print them seems gratuitous.

She says the government is monitoring offshore reaction to the New Zealand publication.

She seemed reluctant to discuss a possible backlash from Iran.

The Iranian president has warned of a review and cancellation of economic contracts with countries where the cartoons have been published.

For New Zealand it could mean the death of a $100 million dollar trade, which includes dairy, wool, meat, and manufacturing.

New Zealand's Muslim community has vented its frustrations over the cartoons.

About 800 people marched up Queen Street in Auckland yesterday, chanting 'We love the prophet Mohammed- peace be upon him.'

Labour list MP and Muslim Anjum Rahman was among the protestors.

She says she respects the newspapers' freedom to print the cartoons, and now people have to respect the right of Muslims to be upset about it.

Ms Rahman says it was a peaceful protest and those taking part acted within the law to express how they feel.

She says since Friday she has found it difficult to go anywhere without people shouting insults at her.

She says the cartoons have stirred racist feelings.

The protest remained relatively peaceful, although one man had to be restrained by police for yelling abuse at the protestors to get out of his country.

Iran has recalled its ambassador to Denmark over the publication.

The Iranian Foreign Ministry says freedoms should be accompanied by responsibility.

Denmark's largest newspaper ran 12 cartoons last September, including one of the prophet with a turban resembling a bomb.

The cartoons have now been reprinted in Bulgaria, France, Germany, Italy, Jordan, Spain, Switzerland, Hungary, New Zealand, Norway and Poland.

Iran says it is forming a committee to review trade ties with the countries that printed the cartoons.

An international relations expert is concerned that all of society is being blamed for the decision to publish.

Otago University's Robert Patman says the press of course has freedom.

However he says with that freedom goes responsibility.

He says the government's disapproval of the publication could prevent any unrest in New Zealand.

Robert Patman says it could help prevent scenes of mayhem such as have occurred in Syria.

He says nobody would like to see that in New Zealand.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cartoonjihad; cartoons; helenclark; jellyfish; labourparty; mohammadcartoon; money; newzealand; weasels; wimps
Shame on you, New Zealand!
1 posted on 02/05/2006 3:14:14 PM PST by NZerFromHK
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To: NZerFromHK

Helen Clark --- You're No Margret Thatcher! The best I can say is that you Dishonor all of the fallen KIWI warriors from past wars by being a weak - sister Socialist.


2 posted on 02/05/2006 3:17:45 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: NZerFromHK

Helen Clark is a wuss.


3 posted on 02/05/2006 3:18:45 PM PST by BW2221
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To: NZerFromHK

"doesn't do much for bringging communities together"

PUKE


4 posted on 02/05/2006 3:19:16 PM PST by wildcatf4f3 (the friend of my enemy is my enemy)
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To: NZerFromHK

"The Iranian president has warned of a review and cancellation of economic contracts with countries where the cartoons have been published.

"For New Zealand it could mean the death of a $100 million dollar trade, which includes dairy, wool, meat, and manufacturing."


5 posted on 02/05/2006 3:19:30 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: NZerFromHK

Old red Helen should keep her pie hole shut.


6 posted on 02/05/2006 3:21:25 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: NZerFromHK

She's Labour. What do you expect?


7 posted on 02/05/2006 3:22:19 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: SandRat

of course Ms Clark (note the Ms title) doesn't want to be another Margaret Thatcher. She wants to be the opposite.


8 posted on 02/05/2006 3:22:22 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: NZerFromHK


Yeah, you're right - it's not a freedom of press/speech issue.

This is about controlling what people say, think and talk. There's a BIG difference between not being allowed to run these cartoons and free speech.

And since brown skinned people of the world are mad (instead of white guys), this is a tolerance/racism issue...


9 posted on 02/05/2006 3:22:50 PM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hilary for President!)
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To: facedown

Yep, talk about lofty "justice, peace, human rights" lectures in front of the United States, and "developing trade opportunities" with the likes of Iran.

They onlycare about money and postmodern leftist ideology.


10 posted on 02/05/2006 3:23:42 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: shaggy eel
Hey Shaggy! Beautify the world, send Helen a Burqa...
11 posted on 02/05/2006 3:25:34 PM PST by null and void (If the Muslim world can be brought to its knees by 12 cartoons, let's give them a whole comic book!)
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To: NZerFromHK

I think we should see an actual transcript. Anyone have it?

After the hoopla about what the State Dept ACTUALLY said versus what the media reported, I think it's only fair that we hit the NZ PM on what she actually said, if appropriate.

I guess I'll search for one in the meantime. If she did say what the article represented it is DISGUSTING. Giving in to extortion.


12 posted on 02/05/2006 3:26:54 PM PST by KJC1
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To: NZerFromHK
Whenever the going gets tough, the Liberals surrender. We all saw that during the Alito confirmation process. I wish the Republicans would finally realize this.
13 posted on 02/05/2006 3:29:17 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (A Liberal by any other name is still a Hypocrite)
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To: NZerFromHK
If this is not a freedom issue and we surrender on this issue what do we surrender next. What is the next thing that Islam thinks the west does that their religion forbids? Uncovered women. So ladies if we surrender on this issue get ready with your berkas or some other covering because that will be next. Islam hates western women and their freedom.
14 posted on 02/05/2006 3:32:02 PM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: NZerFromHK

"She says she respects the newspapers' freedom to print the cartoons, and now people have to respect the right of Muslims to be upset about it".........

upset??......... are you kidding?

and why is it I dont hear the "western" muslims denoucing the rioting, kids carry signs saying "behead those who insult Islam" and babies with "I luv Al-Qaeda" hats on, who are our friends and a peacefull loving people, you know, the ones who live in the west

If I moved to a country and didnt like it I would move...
Why is it that muslims move to western countries and then try to get us to change our christian heritige and continually complain about our land and custom but they dont go back to the wonderful Islamic state they left behind

bottom line a muslim is a muslim and are like oil in water in a christian land.........multiculturalism BAA HUMBUG!!

Praise be to Jesus


15 posted on 02/05/2006 3:32:10 PM PST by helives (God bless Israel, God bless Australia, God bless America, God bless western civilization)
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To: NZerFromHK
Surrender Monkey!

16 posted on 02/05/2006 3:32:45 PM PST by SeaBiscuit (Democrats are nothing more than a protest group.)
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To: SandRat

Amen to that - Would PM Helen have her Muslim citizens arrested if they started burning Auckland? This is all just the beginning of the end for gratuitous pandering by all the socialist govts. of the world.


17 posted on 02/05/2006 3:38:02 PM PST by Sioux-san (God save the Sheeple)
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To: facedown

Exactly.
The norwegian govt too is leftist and surrendered rather early unlike the courageous Danish one.


18 posted on 02/05/2006 3:39:25 PM PST by voletti (Awareness and Equanimity.)
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To: NZerFromHK

Wow! Whoda thunk Muslims lived in New Zealand.


19 posted on 02/05/2006 3:41:37 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: NZerFromHK
She says the cartoons have stirred racist feelings.

Ms Rahman is mistaken in two ways. In the first place, muslims aren't a race. In the second place, the reactions of muslims to the cartoons are the source of the trouble. If muslims had simply ignored them, the cartoons would've soon been forgotten (after all, they were first published last September). Moreover, in some quarters, muslims would've received praise for their restraint (it's a measure of where we are today that if people who are usually quick to anger somehow manage not to get angry, many rush to praise them for their restraint).

20 posted on 02/05/2006 3:42:18 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: NZerFromHK

It appears that the Muslims understand the importance of taking the offense in a compromise world.

They have taken a significant step in seizing political power this weekend.


21 posted on 02/05/2006 3:43:10 PM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: voletti
The norwegian govt too is leftist and surrendered rather early unlike the courageous Danish one.

Yup, and it kept their embassy from being burned.

Eh? What? It was???

*nevermind*

22 posted on 02/05/2006 3:50:05 PM PST by null and void (If the Muslim world can be brought to its knees by 12 cartoons, let's give them a whole comic book!)
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To: NZerFromHK
Socialist feminist leaders, like NZPM Helen Clark, like France's Vichy presidentress Chirac, give in to Muslim extortions. Americans has better be very informed and very scrutinizing of politicians up for re-election or election in 2006. It is TIME for American citizens to let politicians know that the U.S. government is for, by and of the People. Not of, for and by special interests, abortion and homosexual rights. I am too angry...
23 posted on 02/05/2006 3:50:47 PM PST by purpleland (Elegy 9/11/01 Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
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To: NZerFromHK

I guess "kiwi sh*t" means the same as "chicken sh*t."


24 posted on 02/05/2006 3:53:50 PM PST by pabianice (contact ebay??)
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To: NZerFromHK
Michelle Malkin has posted the 12 cartoons on her website.


25 posted on 02/05/2006 4:31:27 PM PST by NWO Slave
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To: sageb1

HA....if enough nations publish....guess that would make a reverse "boycott."


26 posted on 02/05/2006 4:56:53 PM PST by goodnesswins (Dems..........Stuck on Stupidity proven at the SOTU.)
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To: null and void

I think we should pursue this for real...


27 posted on 02/05/2006 5:02:11 PM PST by Uriah_lost (http://www.wingercomics.com/d/20051205.html)
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To: VeniVidiVici
"Wow! Whoda thunk Muslims lived in New Zealand."

Deliberate positioning.

28 posted on 02/05/2006 5:04:16 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: NZerFromHK
Mr.(Note the correct title) Clark would pander to a frog if it kept him in power,
29 posted on 02/05/2006 5:04:25 PM PST by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State, rats are evil.)
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To: purpleland

Cheer up. At least Betty Friedan has left the room.


30 posted on 02/05/2006 5:07:38 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1
"Cheer up. At least Betty Friedan has left the room."

I know so little about Friedan and other notable feminists...even though I am an independently liberated female who never burned a bra, never took drugs nor worshiped at the abortion altar - never in synck with groupthink. I am an old fashioned "feminist". Just cannot stand effete & feminist career politicians!
31 posted on 02/05/2006 5:23:09 PM PST by purpleland (Elegy 9/11/01 Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
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To: NZerFromHK

Pitiful deary, prepare to have your Kiwi peeled..


32 posted on 02/05/2006 5:34:58 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Uriah_lost

Thank yew...


33 posted on 02/05/2006 5:47:19 PM PST by null and void (If the Muslim world can be brought to its knees by 12 cartoons, let's give them a whole comic book!)
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To: NZerFromHK

No freedom of the press for New Zealand! DUers take note: perfect retirement home after you lose the 2008 election.


34 posted on 02/05/2006 5:51:12 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: popdonnelly

To the DUers: you will be welcome here with open arms. But first, here are a few questions the New Zealand Immigration Service (NZIS) are interested:

1) Did you graduate high school English, and get 650 out of 800 for SAT Writing? Or alternatively, getting a B+ or better in college freshman English?

2) Do you understand and enjoy watching rugby?

3) Are you willing to abandon hamburger and Budweiser, and drink Steinlagar, eat fish and chips and meat pies?

4) Are you aware of the distinctiveness of British culture from the generic Western culture which forms Americans' perception of the Western heritage?

5) Are you willing to accept that based on ancient Anglo-French rivalry, that we have nothing to learn from the French, including its cuisines?

6) Do you accept Maori as a cultural foundation for New Zealand?

7) Do you accept that New Zealand cannot be multicultural nor exclusively British monocultural, but is bicultural with two foundational peoples (British and Maori)?

8) Do you accept free trade and pacifism at the same time?

9) Do you accept all illegal immigrants identified must be repatriated?

10) Are you capable of speaking English without the American twangs?


35 posted on 02/05/2006 6:06:55 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: NZerFromHK

Unfortunately, she is a paragon of free speech compared to Pope Benedict who completely and shamelessly sold out.


36 posted on 02/05/2006 6:17:56 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: pabianice
Cutting peoples friggin heads off with dull knives doesn't bring communities together either.
37 posted on 02/05/2006 6:21:37 PM PST by binkdeville
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To: shaggy eel

over here!


38 posted on 02/05/2006 6:22:54 PM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: binkdeville

Oh , I forgot , putting a Jesus figure in a jar of piss is ART ..The same idiots who were impressed by that "artistic" exhibit are just oh so offended at the Islamic cartoons. How damn transparent can people be ..FRAUDS!!!!!!


39 posted on 02/05/2006 6:23:33 PM PST by binkdeville
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To: binkdeville

Boycott New Zealand lamb this Easter!


40 posted on 02/05/2006 6:26:21 PM PST by outofhere2
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To: NZerFromHK

Every country, including ours, has said they think the photos are offensive. But that press freedoms allow for the publication of the photos.

I actually think this is the right tack.


41 posted on 02/05/2006 6:30:21 PM PST by BunnySlippers (fH`)
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To: outofhere2

I don't think I ever spent a dime on anything from NZ anyway .
I love tthe sign I saw carried by a Moslem in Europe today saying " europe should take a lesson from 9/11" Hummmm Maybe NZ should too...


42 posted on 02/05/2006 6:31:41 PM PST by binkdeville
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To: NZerFromHK

11. Do you play at least one extreme sport?

This requirement, and (1) will keep out the DUers.


43 posted on 02/05/2006 7:36:05 PM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: NZerFromHK
Don't you have elections there? Is this b*tch Pharaoh of Little Australia?
44 posted on 02/05/2006 10:06:29 PM PST by jordan8
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To: null and void; cyborg
Helen Clark says the New Zealand press is free and politicians do not dictate what it can and cannot print.

,,, Klark's major increase in staff for the Prime Minister's Department was sourced from ranks of union thugs who "visit" reporters and editors specifically to keep them in [Party] line. She called the editor of the New Zealand Herald in her first term to tell him which staff could be kept. For a short time, in her second term, there was only one seasoned radio journalist who she would speak to.

45 posted on 02/06/2006 12:26:51 AM PST by shaggy eel
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To: NZerFromHK
She seemed reluctant to discuss a possible backlash from Iran.

,,, for once it seems like there's a window of opportunity for the Minister of Foreign Affairs to comment on his own portfolio. Which bar would we find Winston in on Waitangi Weekend?

46 posted on 02/06/2006 12:28:33 AM PST by shaggy eel
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To: NZerFromHK

New Zealand should be happy that they got noticed at all. Most of the time nobody pays any attention to them.


47 posted on 02/06/2006 12:32:58 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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