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LIVE THREAD: SJC hearing on the NSA surveilance program - C-span 1; 9:30 am EST

Posted on 02/06/2006 6:08:53 AM PST by ken5050

Good Monday morning, once again, fellow political jinkies. The NFL season may be over, but the political season inside the Beltway is 24/7/365. So join us, if you can, as those wacky Dems on the Senate Judiciary committee reprise their pitiful efforts to once again smear President Bush and score political points..


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; ag; albertogonzales; attorneygeneral; doj; dojprobe; gonzales; nsa; spying; ussenate
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To: auboy
The Dems live in Disneyland. And it's not the one Walt planned.

I don't know... Disney had a definite sadistic side. He always killed off someone near and dear to the main character. Kind of parallels the Dems trying to kill off America, which is near and dear to the (true) mainstream.
2,381 posted on 02/06/2006 2:54:44 PM PST by Pirate21 ("Leadership is about action, not just position." - Lord Taylor of Warwick)
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To: A Citizen Reporter

I got the same impression. SEnators worried that THEY are being listened to. Especially Schumer. There was just a tone in their voice and asking about listening to opponents for political reasons and G said categorically that is NOT what they are doing. Why are they calling him General? I missed that explanation. Do they really want to call him Generalissimo?


2,382 posted on 02/06/2006 2:54:47 PM PST by sorrisi
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To: MEG33

Hey Specter .. Go ahead and kill the wiretapping

I DARE YOU


2,383 posted on 02/06/2006 2:55:13 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: Mo1

I just caught the tail end of their discussion, but he was emphatic about it -- said it just like everybody already knew this.


2,384 posted on 02/06/2006 2:55:19 PM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: hipaatwo

They feel they are entitled!


2,385 posted on 02/06/2006 2:55:45 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

NO. I believe FISA is the unconstitutional law and that Congress exceeded it's bound when they passed it. This law needs to be challenged. The constitution is pretty clear to me and obviously to past presidents about the presidents abilities.


2,386 posted on 02/06/2006 2:56:00 PM PST by tiki
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To: Cboldt

What did you think of Specter's assertion that they expect Bush to wage a war without being able to do surveillance without a group of judges giving them permission???

Isn't that what he was saying??


2,387 posted on 02/06/2006 2:56:22 PM PST by Txsleuth (l drink tea, not kool-aid.)
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To: Pirate21

Do you think Walt would approve of Disney as we know it today?


2,388 posted on 02/06/2006 2:56:38 PM PST by auboy
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To: Howlin

Thanks!


2,389 posted on 02/06/2006 2:57:10 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Howlin
said it just like everybody already knew this.

I'll bet they do all know

DC couldn't keep a secret if their lives depended on it ... or in this case OUR LIVES

2,390 posted on 02/06/2006 2:57:15 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Time to start calling Congress and tell them we don't trust them with national security!


2,391 posted on 02/06/2006 2:57:16 PM PST by hipaatwo
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To: Txsleuth

He also implied that they would impede Bush if he ever came to Congress to get help on the WOT. He doesn't care about America just his own importance.


2,392 posted on 02/06/2006 2:57:32 PM PST by tiki
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To: Howlin
I'm listening to Specter say the President did not have authority or implying his doubt.."I just hope there will be oversight to get into the details of this in secret Intelligence Committee meeting s to be sure there are reasonable parameters."

Nothing will be secret anymore therefore..not if the decisions are made in full committee.
2,393 posted on 02/06/2006 2:58:24 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: StarFan; Howlin; samantha
"SHAME ON YOU, CHARLES SCHUMER- NEW YORK SENATOR SILENT ON FERRY PROBE

If Charles Schumer never met a camera he didn't like, why is he silent about 11 deaths on the Staten Island Ferry?

On October 15, 2003 many New Yorkers were making a routine commute on the Staten Island Ferry. However, the dereliction of duties by the ferry crew led to a terrible accident that claimed the lives of 11 people. Many others were injured, suffering unspeakable pain including the amputation of limbs.

The New York Senator, Charles Schumer, has gone to great lengths to attract a name for himself, and his career, with the media. The most notable of his camera hogging efforts are his notorious Sunday press conferences about the most mundane and insignificant topics in order to make headlines in the Monday newspapers.

However, Senator Schumer has not publicly spoken about the Staten Island Ferry Disaster in which 11 of his constituents died. Senator Schumer's uncharacteristic silence concerning New York City's biggest tragedy since 9/11 begs the question, "Why?"

Jim Callaghan of The New York Observer wisely points out that Senator Schumer's wife, Irish Weinshall, is Mayor Bloomberg's Transportation Commissioner. It has been Weinshall's duty to make sure that the Staten Island Ferries are operating properly.

However, it's been discovered that Weinshall presided over a culture of incompetence, lax supervision and sheer laziness that led to a mass confusion during the subsequent investigation about where the members of the Ferry's crew were when the ship crashed into the side of a dock.

The Observer also points out:

1. Investigators are still trying to determine the exact whereabouts of the doomed boat's captain, Michael Gansas, at the time of the accident. A crucial piece of evidence; the captain's log, which Mr. Gansas had to sign at the beginning of his tour;was turned over by city Transportation Commissioner Iris Weinshall to the National Safety Transportation Board.

2. Ms. Weinshall has yet to announce the results of any investigation into a far more serious subject: the complicity of New York shipping companies in providing fake "sea papers" for ferry workers.

3. Anyone who thinks the ferry has changed since Oct. 15 should stop by the Manhattan ferry terminal, where they will find every fire exit locked;a violation that would close down any nightclub in town. Such a violation puts the lives of thousands of commuters at risk and is a contradiction of the Mayor's crusade to reduce legal claims against the city.

4. Meanwhile, U.S. Senator Charles Schumer, the king of the weekend press conference on topics ranging from cell-phone portability to gift-card fees, has yet to say a word about the ferry crash, even though a federal agency, the Coast Guard, has some regulatory powers over the ferry. The Senator, of course, is married to Mr. Bloomberg's transportation commissioner. Could that have something to do with the long delay?"

2,394 posted on 02/06/2006 2:58:25 PM PST by STARWISE (Rich. Miniter-respected OBL author:They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war)
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To: Txsleuth

That caller was definitely not a Republican...

Too many DNC talking points.


2,395 posted on 02/06/2006 2:58:36 PM PST by nuffsenuff (Don't get stuck on Stupid - General Russ Honore Sept 21, 2005)
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To: tiki

I can't bear to hear the C-Span callers, so signing off for R&R.


2,396 posted on 02/06/2006 2:58:53 PM PST by Carolinamom (I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves. ---Ronald Reagan)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I'm glad you posted that, Ernest. We were cooking dinner and I was listening and wondered how those 9/11 families felt hearing that.


2,397 posted on 02/06/2006 2:59:20 PM PST by Peach (Islam is an army disguised as a religion (Freeper Hoosier-Daddy))
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To: 4integrity
MEG, I'm furious with Specter....and, it's not just this instance.

The bottom line seems to be that this is a turf battle between the senate and the administration. Specter is more concerned about protecting their prerogatives than protecting Americans.

2,398 posted on 02/06/2006 2:59:31 PM PST by oldbrowser (We must act today in order to preserve tomorrow......R.R)
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To: Txsleuth

Gay guy on cspan whinning about Gonzales not being put under oath


2,399 posted on 02/06/2006 2:59:38 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: Bahbah
"Can you call a fella a saucy minx?"

Hm,mmm...don't think so. You could call a fella a lot of things, but probably isn't one of them.

2,400 posted on 02/06/2006 2:59:39 PM PST by sofaman ("I have an existential map. It has 'You are here' written all over it." Steven Wright)
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