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Trying a person for murder or rape always means murdering or raping a human

Disagree. A properly written indictment must give the name of the victim (among other things).

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My badly worded point was that the vicim of the crime of murder or rape must always be a human, yet I don't see this clown taking his argument to it's final conclusion. If we can't assume that humans are distinct from animals in the abortion debate, should we assume they are distinct in any legal or moral sense, and what are the implications of riding that slippery slope?