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To: xcamel
What is delusional about global warming? Are you saying that the greenhouse effect isn't real and human CO2 emission does not contribute to it? I guess oil PR firms' "swallow everything we say" is the real truth, while scientific research is just hogwash.
14 posted on 02/08/2006 1:27:38 PM PST by sagar
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16 posted on 02/08/2006 1:39:12 PM PST by Iconoclast2 (Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .)
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To: sagar
Are you saying that the greenhouse effect isn't real and human CO2 emission does not contribute to it?

Aliens Cause Global Warming
17 posted on 02/08/2006 1:41:29 PM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: sagar
see tagline.

Answer this then, why is the temprature on Mars rising ar the exact same rate as the average temprature on earth (over the last 50 years anyway).

19 posted on 02/08/2006 1:45:26 PM PST by xcamel (One should hope Global Dumbing is reversible.)
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To: sagar
"What is delusional about global warming? Are you saying that the greenhouse effect isn't real and human CO2 emission does not contribute to it? I guess oil PR firms' "swallow everything we say" is the real truth, while scientific research is just hogwash."

There is no doubt that a greenhouse effect can occur, in isolation. however none of the models for global warming include ALL of the components in our closed-loop system. Many of those components can and do have the power to counter-act the effects of the Co2 and other gases. (for instance they do not account for increased algae blossoms in the oceans which are the worlds primary consumers of C02 and producers of O2)

A team of Irish-led and EU-funded scientists has discovered a new link between marine algae and climate change. They found that iodine vapours, released from algae or plankton, condense to form aerosol 1 particles over oceans. These aerosols can have a significant impact on climate change as well as on precipitation patterns, as aerosols work in a manner opposite to greenhouse gases (greenhouse gases trap heat escaping from the Earth’s surface – ‘global warming’ – while aerosols block heat from reaching the surface where it is absorbed – ‘global cooling’). This new discovery involving iodine vapours represents a major breakthrough in the prediction of climate change, as no current prediction model takes this fact into account." -- source Irish Scientist Journal

There is far too little scientific skepticism being applied to this debate. far too little. Once a scientific issue becomes popular with the financiers (government) then most scientists will sell their soul and the truth to keep the funding flowing.

This is another case of popular pseudo-science winning out over real scientific skepticism.

Modern global warming models cannot even predict last 5 years temperature curves based on historic records, not without arbitrary fudge factors.

Just think, algae is the greatest component in global O2/CO2 production/consumption and modern simulations that are used to predict global warming do not acount for this!

Global warming si a political stick to beat the people into submission and acceptance of an authoritarian global, socliat government to "save our lvies".

23 posted on 02/08/2006 2:16:29 PM PST by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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