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Twenty Years In Prison For Having Sex With His Wife
http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2006/feb06/06-02-08.html ^ | 2 8 06 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 02/09/2006 5:31:44 AM PST by freepatriot32

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To: Skooz
It's not testimony, it a sworn statement. I know, semantics, but the expert never testified in court.
81 posted on 02/09/2006 6:35:02 AM PST by Hoodlum91 (pcottraux says I'm special!)
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To: tx_eggman
So, do you live alone or are you still living with your parents?

I don't live with my parents; and I agree with his statement...

82 posted on 02/09/2006 6:35:14 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: Binkmeister

One of the "cracks" something like this could fall into is that the man legally wasn't indigent because his assets were in limbo rather than gone. I would dare to bet if this situation hit the Supreme Court they would follow earlier precedent on right to access to effective counsel. I wonder if he was represented by a traffic court lawyer.


83 posted on 02/09/2006 6:35:37 AM PST by The Red Zone
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
It is not possible to prove a negative.
Every adult knows that. Or should.
84 posted on 02/09/2006 6:36:24 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: Binkmeister
When a Judge imposes a sentence outside the standard or recommended range, he or she must comply with the rule announced in Blakely vs. Washington (2003)

Blakely is, so far, not retroactive, and how is a judge imposing sentence in 1986 supposed to comply with a ruling made in 2003?

85 posted on 02/09/2006 6:37:00 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: yoe
Based on the information on the National Coalition of Free Men Web site, it appears that Hetherington's advocates used the Phil Donahue show in the early 1990s to try to point out the injustices in the case. It may be a good idea to try to interest O'Reilly, or for that matter Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, Dr. Laura, etc. However, it appears the Michigan courts and bureaucracy are entrenched, and, unless his advocates are successful in finding a basis for appeal to Federal courts, Hetherington will not receive justice on this earth.
86 posted on 02/09/2006 6:37:25 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: sandbar
A friend's boyfriend is in jail for child rape. His ex-girlfriends exhusband is suing for custody to avoid child support. One year after the fact, the child claimed that her boyfriend at the time (my friend's current boyfriend) raped her at the age of 8. Thus the mother was not a good mother by putting her in that situation, and the child needed to be sent to live with the father (and of course child support paid by the mother). After a medical examination, they found the child's hymen was still intact and no evidence or scarring of any kind. Furthermore, he passed a lie detector. But on the one time testimony of a (I believe) coerced child to a child pychologist, this man is serving 10 years. And getting beat up daily (as all child molesters should be) but I believe he is innocent. As the victim of sexual abuse as a child, I tend to have a sixth sense about these things.

You need to draw a diagram in order for that story to make any sort of sense.

87 posted on 02/09/2006 6:41:59 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: The Red Zone

Most court proceedings are not transcribed until someone orders a transcript and then that is expensive.


88 posted on 02/09/2006 6:42:10 AM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Hoodlum91

I looked at the links too.

When I first saw the headline, I thought "feminism strikes again" but the article fails to mention half of what really happened.

Gotta love that MSM!


89 posted on 02/09/2006 6:43:22 AM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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To: beyond the sea

I think you owe Iceland a big apology for that comment.


90 posted on 02/09/2006 6:43:41 AM PST by lesser_satan
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To: lawdude
Goodness YES. Think Rush Limbaugh, Tom Delay, Scooter Libby.

Wonderful, but this guy's a nobody.

91 posted on 02/09/2006 6:44:15 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Senator Bedfellow
According to the habeas petition and the judge's denial of same, this part of the article is absolutely false - the wife was cross-examined by the defense attorney.

Another thing: the story said the rape (criminal) and divorce (civil) trials occurred at the same time. I'm assuming in separate courts---or perhaps my assumption is correct. Is this even possible?

92 posted on 02/09/2006 6:45:59 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Mercat; freepatriot32; Carry_Okie
My brother, M, is 28. He has full custody of his 7YO daughter thanks to her mother's NINE false allegations of sexual abuse.

My brother, B (26), has full custody of his 7YO son thanks to his mother's drug abuse (meth). CPS fought like heck to keep my nephew in state care instead of giving him to his father. B also has joint custody with his 2YO daughter from a subsequent relationship.

The biases against men have improved, but they still have a far way to go. Follow the money. That's the way it works.

Sounds like this poor guy was in the wrong time & place to get true justice. In the 80's, unfortunately, many a woman's word was gospel.

93 posted on 02/09/2006 6:48:53 AM PST by mosquitobite (The penalty for refusing to participate in politics is you end up being governed by your inferiors)
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To: Publius6961
It is not possible to prove a negative.

As in how does one prove he did not rape a woman? Sure there is: a complete lack of physical evidence and a dearth of circumstantial evidence would prove that no rape occurred. That's what's so perplexing to me about this story: if, as the story claims, there was absolutely no physical evidence whatsoever that a rape took place, why (1) did the cops believe the woman's story, and (2) the prosecutor agree to take on the case?

94 posted on 02/09/2006 6:48:58 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: SittinYonder
Thanks for posting the other side.

As a divorced father you lowered my blood pressure considerably!

95 posted on 02/09/2006 6:54:31 AM PST by AmericanDave (More COWBELL....................)
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To: freepatriot32

Bump for later.


96 posted on 02/09/2006 6:56:13 AM PST by painter (We celebrate liberty which comes from God not from government.)
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To: SittinYonder

Sorry, imo that could also be a brain washed child who has grown up to believe the lies her mother told. Are we really to believe the child WATCHED the mother being raped, but still goes to visit her father in jail?


97 posted on 02/09/2006 6:58:00 AM PST by mosquitobite (The penalty for refusing to participate in politics is you end up being governed by your inferiors)
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To: freepatriot32

This one case turns at least 12,000,000 more Americans against feminist lunacy.


98 posted on 02/09/2006 6:58:25 AM PST by pabianice (contact ebay??)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
As in how does one prove he did not rape a woman?

More accurately, why does he HAVE to? Our criminal justice system is founded on the doctrine of presumptive INNOCENCE; the burden of proof is on the prosecution.

In other words, the defendant doesn't have to prove he DIDN'T commit the crime; the prosecution has to prove he DID.

99 posted on 02/09/2006 7:00:35 AM PST by IronJack
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Law enforcement people get on tears about some things, and as they spend all of their time dealing with crooks, they tend to assume that everyone is a crook. It is best to stay away from them.


100 posted on 02/09/2006 7:00:51 AM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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