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New Video of Kidnapped Reporter Surfaces
AP ^ | 2/9/6

Posted on 02/09/2006 1:02:50 PM PST by SmithL

U.S. journalist Jill Carroll has appeared in a video aired on a private Kuwaiti TV channel appealing for her supporters to do whatever her Iraqi kidnappers want to secure her release.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: jillcarroll
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To: UglyinLA

Zainab. Well, isn't that cute.

I initially thought that she was just young and dumb (and the product of lefty MA parents), and had blundered into her situation by trusting the wrong folks. I knew that she wore Islamic garb and had contacts with some rather dubious people, but there are plausible explanations for that.

The fact that the "deadline" is being extended and extended - as has happened in the case of virtually all of the complicit female "hostages" - and now the demands are getting vaguer and vaguer is making me rethink the whole situation, however.

Personally, I don't think the women were released for this reason - I had read something some time before about a plan to release certain people who had been determined not to be a threat - but I hope we don't do anything else in the future that even makes it look as if we are giving in to these (very possibly spurious) threats.


81 posted on 02/09/2006 2:40:58 PM PST by livius
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To: DOGEY
Please stand by.
An embarrassing silence afterwards is just as good as " I was an ignorant [censored ]"!
82 posted on 02/09/2006 2:42:34 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: Publius6961

I haven't seen Viking Kitties yet, but I have been called a "Jackass" and "disgraceful" for saying what I said. I guess if one can't argue their point, use nasty name calling instead.


83 posted on 02/09/2006 2:45:44 PM PST by Maximus_Ridiculousness (patriotdreams.net)
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To: Maximus_Ridiculousness

Amen!


84 posted on 02/09/2006 2:55:35 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: jwpjr

That is 100 percent K-R-A-P. The responsibility always rests with the criminal, never with the victim. Was she foolish? Maybe. That shouldn't reduce our sympathy for Jill Carroll in any way. It should increase it.


85 posted on 02/09/2006 2:56:37 PM PST by California Patriot
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To: daybreakcoming

Hmmmmmm... to be crazy would preclude that they don't have the capacity to realize the mussies are crazy. We may be on to something.


86 posted on 02/09/2006 2:57:05 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Why is the belief "justifiable"?


87 posted on 02/09/2006 2:57:25 PM PST by California Patriot
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To: Maximus_Ridiculousness
I firmly believe Jill Carroll is not a hostage, but is working with the enemy whose real objective is not to release all female Iraqi hostages, but to get what private money they can under the table in exchange for Carroll's so-called "release".

I think you are half right. I am convinced she is a hostage but only for money. If she were a hostage for a political cause she would already be dead. I have no doubt there are negotiations with family or with the newspaper for the price of her release. Actually, in the past year virtually all kidnappings in Iraq have been about money.

88 posted on 02/09/2006 3:00:21 PM PST by Casloy
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To: Publius6961
"You can assume that we all are ignorant about the fact that you volunteered to be a "human shield" for Saddam's pre-war facilities, including weapons depots..."

Really she was a human shield for Saddam?

Bottom line: she is not embedded with US troops, so therefore she is undermining the war effort and getting US troops killed.

I have no sympathy for journalists, none, zip , nada. They have no business in US war zone, save for press briefings presented by military spokesmen.

89 posted on 02/09/2006 3:02:07 PM PST by Pio (Four Last Things: Death, Judgement, Heaven and Hell.)
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To: livius
The fact that the "deadline" is being extended and extended - as has happened in the case of virtually all of the complicit female "hostages" - and now the demands are getting vaguer and vaguer is making me rethink the whole situation, however.

There have been many many kidnappings of foreign nationals (and wealthy Iraqis) in Iraq in the past year and not one of them has been killed because demands weren't met. Money is the driving factor and the hostage takers usually have inflated ideas about how much money Americans have. They'll demand millions and then spend months negotiating it down to 1 or 2 hundred thousand as they realize the price is too high. They often throw these people on video with some political demand while they continue to negotiate the ransom. For every high profile one like her there are 10 that don't merit being shown on TV, and most of them are men. You should not draw any conclusions from the fact she is still alive other than that the hostage takers don't plan to kill her for political gain. Terrorist kidnappings and televised executions seem to have lost their appeal among terrorist groups.

90 posted on 02/09/2006 3:09:13 PM PST by Casloy
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To: devolve

What you say is true, she certainly doesn't look very scared in the latest video. I do pray they don't kill her as they are beasts.


91 posted on 02/09/2006 3:28:48 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Maximus_Ridiculousness

Again, I agree with you. After doing a little Googling, I found this:

"The irony of Carroll’s kidnapping is that it has been journalists like herself who have taken great risks to immerse themselves in the real Iraq to get the real stories. Stories not about the war itself, but about the war’s impact on average Iraqis. “Journalists are here to tell the world about the occupation, so kidnapping a journalist is going to hide the truth,” said Muthana Harith al-Dari on Wednesday. Dari, a leader of Iraq’s Muslim Scholars Associations, an umbrella group for a number of leading Sunni clerics, issued a plea to the kidnappers to let Carroll free. “She is considered one of the best journalists who stood against the American occupation of Iraq and she focused her articles on telling the world about the Iraqi people’s suffering.” http://www.italknews.com/view_story.php?menu=&submenu=World&sid=1223

Sometimes when you play with fire, you get burned.


92 posted on 02/09/2006 3:37:10 PM PST by TennesseeGirl
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To: California Patriot
I'm not sure how that should increase my concern for her. She put herself in harm's way. There is a difference in criminal behavior in a civilized country and the behavior of terrorists in a war zone.
93 posted on 02/09/2006 3:47:05 PM PST by jwpjr
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To: TennesseeGirl
“She is considered one of the best journalists who stood against the American occupation of Iraq and she focused her articles on telling the world about the Iraqi people’s suffering.”

Good catch there. Thanks.

94 posted on 02/09/2006 4:21:19 PM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: bikepacker67

It's possible.


95 posted on 02/09/2006 4:27:42 PM PST by 2rightsleftcoast
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To: TennesseeGirl

Excellent find.


96 posted on 02/09/2006 4:42:43 PM PST by Maximus_Ridiculousness (patriotdreams.net)
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To: Pio

"You can assume that we all are ignorant about the fact that you volunteered to be a "human shield" for Saddam's pre-war facilities, including weapons depots..."

Would like to see a link for that posted here.


97 posted on 02/09/2006 4:47:04 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: SmithL

Whatever happened to those 4 "Christian Peace Activists" that were kidnapped, what - months ago? I never heard an update.


98 posted on 02/09/2006 4:53:38 PM PST by alicewonders
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To: All

Something's up here: Is it possible, that Carroll was involved in her own kidnapping?


99 posted on 02/09/2006 10:21:07 PM PST by TheSpy
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To: Maximus_Ridiculousness

Will ditto that because it is what my husband and I have both said.


100 posted on 02/09/2006 10:22:17 PM PST by Dustbunny
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