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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
But to defeat a civilization is not something the military isn't proficient at.

In almost every case I would agree. But Islam has an Achilles heel, in the cities of Mecca and Medina. If they were to vanish, Islam would be crippled, and would shrivel up.

There is one very good historical precedent - in the 7th Century, when Byzantium was almost exterminated by the Zoroastran Sassanid Empire, the emperor Heraclius took his last army and did something new - he unexpectedly attacked the holy city of the Sassanids, sacked it, extinguished their "eternal flame", and filled their sacred lake with dead animals.

The shock was absolute - the Sassanids, on the brink of snuffing out Christianity, lost the moral will to govern. Zoroastranism is now a trivia question.

A religion that venerates a central piece of real estate has a fatal vulnerability. When that central spot is taken and desecrated, all bets are off.
17 posted on 02/09/2006 2:51:24 PM PST by horse_doc
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To: horse_doc
The shock was absolute - the Sassanids, on the brink of snuffing out Christianity, lost the moral will to govern. Zoroastranism is now a trivia question.

You are correct. The way to approach this war is to look back at history. This is nothing new.

The first step would require an admission from our "intellectuals" that we are in a war between civilizations/religions. And to conduct it along those lines.

The PC and multi-culti crap should be tossed onto the dung heap of history.

19 posted on 02/09/2006 3:01:55 PM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("fake but accurate": NY Times)
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To: horse_doc
A religion that venerates a central piece of real estate has a fatal vulnerability. When that central spot is taken and desecrated, all bets are off.

Great minds think alike,lol.

20 posted on 02/09/2006 3:04:26 PM PST by badbass
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To: horse_doc

Alexander the Great gave Zoroastranism a blow they never really recovered from.


21 posted on 02/09/2006 3:07:42 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: horse_doc
But Islam has an Achilles heel, in the cities of Mecca and Medina. If they were to vanish, Islam would be crippled, and would shrivel up.

I'm not sure it would require anything so drastic. Snuffing the Zoroastrian "eternal" flame was a very precise, irredeemable, attack. What would Islam's moon god think about taking that meteorite, sending it back into space and dropping it into the sun? If the faithful kept praying toward the rock we'd soon have a lot more blind Imams. Not only would it confuse their prayers, but an Allah that couldn't protect His rock wouldn't look very strong. Some religions could dream up a theological work around for this, but Allah is out of prophets.

27 posted on 02/11/2006 2:32:23 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer
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