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What Putin doesn’t know about Hamas - Hamas supports Chechen rebels - part of global Jihad
Ynet ^ | 02/10/2006 | Roee Nahmias

Posted on 02/10/2006 4:40:47 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Russian President Vladimir Putin said during a Madrid press conference Thursday that Russia is holding talks with Hamas and that he plans on inviting the group’s leaders to Moscow soon.

Hamas rose to power in democratic elections and the choice of the Palestinian people must be respected, Putin said.

Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh was quick to accept the invitation.

However, a document distributed by the Israeli Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center at the Center for Special Studies reveals that Hamas supports the Chechen rebels in their battle for independence against the Russian regime and considers them part of the global Jihad.


Hamas poster of Sheikh Ahmed Yassin with Chechen rebel leaders

According to the document, Hamas posters, CDs and films depicting the group’s support for the Chechens and for global terror in general were found in the territories; Hamas even offered the Chechens its official website to prove the rebels’ suicide bombings are carried out in accordance with Islamic law.

Moreover, the anti-Russian CDs, filled with messages preaching for hatred and terror, are being distributed by Hamas in Palestinian Authority educational institutions. The document analyzes a number of CDs that included inciting material dealing with Chechnya and were distributed in the American university in Jenin in November 2003 and in Hebron in 2004.

‘Violent message’

The document states that the terminology used by Hamas in the posters and films is Islamist-extremist in nature; Chechen terror leaders are praised while the Russian army’s conduct is described as terrorism against the Muslim population in Chechnya.

For instance, one of the CDs, titled “Russian Hell,” contains derogatory comments against the Russian soldiers, such as “Fire awaits them in the next world, and the Chechens in this world.”

In addition, the CD hails the Chechens as “Jihad warriors.”

A Hamas poster shows the organization’s founder, Sheikh Ahmed Yassin alongside Osama Bin Laden and Chechen rebel leaders Shamil Basayev, who is known to be one of those behind the Beslan school massacre in September 2004, and Khattab, killed by the Russians in 2002.

A slogan at the bottom of the poster reads “Islam was born in foreign surroundings and will continue to exist in these surroundings (meaning, Islam will continue to exist in those places where Muslims are the minority.)

The poster also includes images of two M-16 rifles below the leaders.

“This is clearly a violent message in which Hamas diverts from its Islamic-Palestinian identity and encourages international Islamic terror,” the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center document states.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: chechens; globaljihad; hamas; jihad; putin; russia; trop
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1 posted on 02/10/2006 4:40:50 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I am sure he knows. Putin and Bush are playing Good Cop Bad Cop with the arabs.


2 posted on 02/10/2006 4:44:01 PM PST by GermanBusiness
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To: GermanBusiness

When Putin says Hamas must change he means he wants them to stop all that counterproductive suicide bombing and kill jews with Iranian IED's instead.


3 posted on 02/10/2006 4:45:54 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Russo-Chechen conflict dates since about 1820s [i.e. from way before anyone heard the word "Wahhabism"], and has been periodically flaring up ever since. While in its most recent flare-up it has acquired an islamist tinge, given its sordid history [including Stalin's mass deportation of the Chechens in the 1940s and other kind and nice things of the same kind] it could be seen as an example of a bona fide ethnic liberation movement.
4 posted on 02/10/2006 4:50:38 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Putin only has one goal at this time; to reconstruct a USSR type of coalition of nations with Russia as the overseer/superpower backbone of the alliance. Putin, unlike many leaders who are constantly distracted by side issues; has been pursuing this goal without deviation since he was elected. The Chechan problem can be dealt with at the appropriate time however if dealing with them now compromises the prime directive then Checnea can continue to fester. Though I could never embrace his goal I do admire his ability to maintain his vision. I wish that conservatives in this country could focus with such clarity.
5 posted on 02/10/2006 5:18:57 PM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: lizol; Lukasz; strategofr; GSlob; spanalot; Thunder90; propertius; REactor; twinself; ...

So....Putin supports the Chechens???!!!!!!!!!!!!!


6 posted on 02/10/2006 5:35:12 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (There's nothing "Mainstream" about the Orwellian Media!!!)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

He will support anyone if only he can keep the power in Russia. Hamas, Chechens, Soros, Satan, whoever. I think he is readying to become the Emir of the Slavonic Muslim Provinves. When Chechens together with Hamas take over Russia this is the most he can hope for.


7 posted on 02/10/2006 5:49:00 PM PST by REactor
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To: Stellar Dendrite

There is information that says that the Chechen rebels are funded by the FSB and SVR. It is sketchy, but could hold true.


8 posted on 02/10/2006 6:14:34 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90; Stellar Dendrite; spanalot
You guys don't know Blowing up Russia?

Look here:

http://www.felshtinsky.com/index1.html

9 posted on 02/10/2006 6:20:40 PM PST by REactor
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To: Thunder90; Tailgunner Joe

here is some info for you

Bin Laden aide ‘had KGB link’
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1461070/posts


To The Qaeda:Ex Russian Agent, Vice Bin Laden Trained From Kgb
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1461064/posts


http://news.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=98038&cat=World

Russian secret agency FSB trained Al Qaeda's al-Zawahiri: Report:-


http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/07/18/fsbalqaeda.shtml

Al Qaeda’s Al-Zawahiri Received Terrorist Training in Russia — Newspaper


KGB trained Zawahiri, says former agent

http://www.dawn.com/2005/07/17/int14.htm


10 posted on 02/10/2006 6:32:34 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (There's nothing "Mainstream" about the Orwellian Media!!!)
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To: jb6; RusIvan; GarySpFc

Putin supports Hamas that supports Chechen fighters killing Russians ping!


11 posted on 02/10/2006 7:33:01 PM PST by Wiz (News hyaena providing you news with spice of acid)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Palestinian Authority educational institutions

They should put at the doors of every such... hm, hm, 'institution' a warning sign that already exists at their maternity wards:

ATTENTION! LIVE AMMUNITION!

12 posted on 02/10/2006 8:56:57 PM PST by Neophyte (Nazists, Communists, Islamists... what the heck is the difference?)
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To: GSlob
Russo-Chechen conflict dates since about 1820s [i.e. from way before anyone heard the word "Wahhabism"],

Wahhabism or no wahhabism, even in 1920 the Chechens fought under the green banner of the prophet (the one that features in those Danish cartoons, you know...).

Their then leader Shamil definitely used all the Islamic rhetoric of martyrdom and the rest of the sh*t.

13 posted on 02/10/2006 9:01:22 PM PST by Neophyte (Nazists, Communists, Islamists... what the heck is the difference?)
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To: Neophyte

Sorry for the typo - 1820 that is.


14 posted on 02/10/2006 9:02:12 PM PST by Neophyte (Nazists, Communists, Islamists... what the heck is the difference?)
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To: Thunder90
There is information that says that the Chechen rebels are funded by the FSB and SVR.

I am not sure they do it directly, but what is certain is that the army generals deal big time in arms and ammunition with the Chechens.

The whole war is a big business: you bomb a city into rubble, then the central government says "Chechnya is part of Russia, we must reconstruct the place for the population's sake" and signs huge funds for the purpose.

These funds are stolen by the officials (and lion's share of them finds its way to the Swiss accounts of the main actors), then the "rebels" duly perform another terrorist act which is replied to by another bombing... so all the traces of the theft are well covered by the rubble.

Isn't it a nice, flawless scheme?

15 posted on 02/10/2006 9:11:05 PM PST by Neophyte (Nazists, Communists, Islamists... what the heck is the difference?)
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To: Neophyte

Well, at the time they did not have any other banners. The conflict, through most of its history till its most recent phase, had been 200% local - that's the point, and not the color of the banners. Neither in 1820-60, nor around 1920, nor in 1940s did anyone there dream of the world caliphate - what they wanted was to return to their old tribal ways, without NKVD, CheKa, or Russian vampirial military outposts. BTW, to suppress them even in 19th century it was necessary to resort to ecological warfare - cutting and burning mountain forests, wasting their small agricultural fields etc. Mountain tribes have long memories, and after all that has been done there, this conflict does not have nongenocidal solution, unless the putinoids withdraw and wall off the Chechnya with minefield belts.


16 posted on 02/10/2006 9:16:52 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Wiz

The Chechen rebels are supported by the SVR and FSB.


17 posted on 02/10/2006 9:18:49 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: GSlob
...this conflict does not have nongenocidal solution, unless the putinoids withdraw and wall off the Chechnya with minefield belts.

They could do that, but it'd be genocidal too, since without Russia the Chechens have no economy to speak about.

Fortunately (or, indeed, unfortunately) Chechens don't really want to cut all their ties with Russia. For instance, they're quite happy to continue their criminal business in the major Russian cities... all this 'national liberation' rhetoric is quite hypocritical.

18 posted on 02/10/2006 9:30:24 PM PST by Neophyte (Nazists, Communists, Islamists... what the heck is the difference?)
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To: All
ON THE NET...

FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "HAMAS MOVES INTO SOUTH AMERICA" by Lt. Col. Gordon Cucullu (February 10, 2006)

"internet-haganah.com/jihadi/hamas.html"

NEWSMAX.COM: "PUTIN: HAMAS NOT A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION" by Carl Limbacher and the NewsMax.com staff (February 9, 2006)

TRAVEL.STATE.GOV - PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT: "RUSSIA"

19 posted on 02/10/2006 10:23:51 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Neophyte

How they manage to stew in their own juices would be nobody's business but their own. And if the place is walled off, it would be only natural to expect that the diasporic ones would be carted in, and dumped in there.


20 posted on 02/10/2006 11:26:54 PM PST by GSlob
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