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Inquiry Into Wiretapping Article Widens [the noose starts to tighten?]
New York Times ^ | February 12, 2006 | DAVID JOHNSTON

Posted on 02/11/2006 10:02:38 AM PST by 68skylark

WASHINGTON, Feb. 11 — Federal agents have interviewed officials at several of the country's law enforcement and national security agencies in a rapidly expanding criminal investigation into the circumstances surrounding a New York Times article published in December that disclosed the existence of a highly classified domestic eavesdropping program, according to government officials.

The investigation, which appears to cover the case from 2004, when the newspaper began reporting the story, is being closely coordinated with criminal prosecutors at the Justice Department, the officials said. People who have been interviewed and others in the government who have been briefed on the interviews said the investigation seems to lay the groundwork for a grand jury inquiry that could lead to criminal charges.

The inquiry is progressing as a debate about the eavesdropping rages in Congress and elsewhere. President Bush has condemned the leak as a "shameful act." Others, like Porter J. Goss, the C.I.A. director, have expressed the hope that reporters would be summoned before a grand jury and asked to reveal the identities of those who provided them classified information.

Mr. Goss, speaking at a Senate intelligence committee hearing on Feb. 2, said, "It is my aim, and it is my hope that we will witness a grand jury investigation with reporters present being asked to reveal who is leaking this information. I believe the safety of this nation and the people this country deserve nothing less." The case is viewed in as potentially far reaching because it places on a collision course constitutional principles that each side regards as paramount. For the government, the investigation represents an effort to punish those responsible for a serious security breach....For news organizations, the inquiry threatens its ability to protect sources and report on controversial national security issues free of government interference....

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; cia; doj; dojprobe; goss; homelandsecurity; jamesrisen; jayrockefeller; leaks; looselips; nsa; nyt; probe; rockefeller; spying; timestimesagain; timesup; traitormedia; traitors
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This could get interesting.
1 posted on 02/11/2006 10:02:40 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark
...a rapidly expanding criminal investigation.

I like the sound of that.

Will soon see if it's true, or just hysteria from the Times and other parts of the MSM.

2 posted on 02/11/2006 10:04:19 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark
HAAAA! So all the Get Rove for Palme situational ethics are coming home to bite the Junk Journalists in a most delicate spot. Going to be interesting listening to Fat Dummy Timmy Russert and Hissy Matthews try to rediscover the 1st Amendment Press protection after trashing it when they thought the Plame leak was going to "get Bush".
3 posted on 02/11/2006 10:06:33 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Conservatives...lack sufficient cynicism to properly assess the nature of their liberal opponents)
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To: 68skylark

I don't think the elites at the New York Times will enjoy jail. Oh, well.


4 posted on 02/11/2006 10:08:31 AM PST by Patriot from Philly
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To: 68skylark
...a rapidly expanding criminal investigation.

If the NYT is hoping for a public outcry I believe they're sadly mistaken. All it will take is one breach in security and the NYT and all those liberal whiners will be looking like complete idiots. And their road back to credibility with the public, (the NYT and the whiny liberals)will take longer than recovering from the Vietnam mindset.

5 posted on 02/11/2006 10:08:57 AM PST by ThirstyMan (hysteria: the elixir of the Left that trumps all reason)
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To: 68skylark
"Before running the story we gave long and sober consideration to the administration's contention that disclosing the program would damage the country's counterterrorism efforts," Mr. Keller said. "We were not convinced then, and have not been convinced since, that our reporting compromised national security."

What a sanctimonious bunch of jerks.

They think they know more about national security than the experts. They think they know more about the law than the experts.

And, as one of my favorite bloggers wrote, what if they're wrong? What if their reporting gets people killed? Are they prepared to apologize? Are they prepared to make amends?

6 posted on 02/11/2006 10:10:10 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark

the motto of today's lib-MSM: don't get it right...don't get it complete...just get it first!


7 posted on 02/11/2006 10:10:41 AM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: 68skylark
"Before running the story we gave long and sober consideration to the administration's contention that disclosing the program would damage the country's counterterrorism efforts,"

I think the obsession with getting Bush won out over the American People's safety.

8 posted on 02/11/2006 10:11:21 AM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Patriot from Philly
Yes, but we will thoroughly enjoy watching them go when they do........

:-)

9 posted on 02/11/2006 10:11:23 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: 68skylark
This could get interesting.

"Interesting" is cute, but I would rather see the results reviving the concept of "treason", and the appropriate punishment for it.

After all, treason endangers hundreds of thousands, if not millions!

10 posted on 02/11/2006 10:11:40 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: ThirstyMan
If the NYT is hoping for a public outcry I believe they're sadly mistaken.

I think you're right. They might think that they can stir up a groundswell of anger and outrage at the administration, and that will make the investigators back off.

Well the left wing is good at making lots of shrill noise -- we may hear a lot of it in the coming days and weeks. But it doesn't represent the majority opinion in this case, and I hope the investigators don't flinch.

11 posted on 02/11/2006 10:12:46 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark

Good. If the "reporters" don't reveal their sources, put them in a general prison cell with a bunch of black and mexican gangs for a weekend.


12 posted on 02/11/2006 10:13:18 AM PST by BobS
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To: 68skylark

Anything "rapid" in Washington I am in favor of.


13 posted on 02/11/2006 10:14:28 AM PST by My Favorite Headache ("Scientology is dangerous stuff,it's like forming a religion based around Johnny Quest and Haji.")
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To: MNJohnnie
HAAAA! So all the Get Rove for Palme situational ethics are coming home to bite the Junk Journalists in a most delicate spot.

Yeah, the Times flogged the phony Plame scandal harder than anyone. And now it makes the perfect precedent to go after them.

14 posted on 02/11/2006 10:15:00 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark

Nothing will happen. This will be buried with the Travel Office and the Rose Law Firm billing records.


15 posted on 02/11/2006 10:15:15 AM PST by zarf (It's time for a college football playoff system.)
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To: conservative in nyc; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; AFPhys; prairiebreeze; onyx; ohioWfan; Texasforever; ..

tick .. tick .. tick


16 posted on 02/11/2006 10:16:04 AM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: 68skylark

There were allegedly multiple sources for the Dec 16 story.

How these sources were located, convinced to speak to the NY Slimes, and to break their oaths and security clearances will be interesting to see unveiled.

And why they didn't just take their "concerns" to their NSA security officers and legal counsels will be even more interesting.

Cleared TS/SCI NSA employees (conspiracy) discussing confidential and operational national security information with the Slimes will, I hope, produce many life sentence in Leavenworth. People have been skewered, demoted, and prosecuted for much, much less.


17 posted on 02/11/2006 10:16:45 AM PST by angkor
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To: Mo1

LOL ! I was just about to ping you! :-)


18 posted on 02/11/2006 10:17:59 AM PST by tiredoflaundry (I'll admit it , I'm a Snow Flake !(Snoq) The rest of my tagline redacted by court order.)
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To: God luvs America
the motto of today's lib-MSM: don't get it right...don't get it complete...just get it first!<\i> Or "get Bush."
19 posted on 02/11/2006 10:18:02 AM PST by RWCon
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To: zarf
Nothing will happen. This will be buried with the Travel Office and the Rose Law Firm billing records.

Yeah, that's one of the possibilities.

One of the Clinton-era scandals that's closest to this one is the matter of the hundreds of FBI files on Republicans that the White House was hoarding. The Democrats never worried much about privacy violations in those days.

No one was punished in that matter, if I recall correctly, although at least one Nixon-era White House staffer went to prison for a single FBI file.

20 posted on 02/11/2006 10:19:20 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: All
While you wait, I'll supply some


21 posted on 02/11/2006 10:21:24 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (I never got a job from a person on a government program.)
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To: Publius6961

"Interesting" is cute, but I would rather see the results reviving the concept of "treason", and the appropriate punishment for it.

After all, treason endangers hundreds of thousands, if not millions!

Oh Yeah? Well, don't forget; George W. Bush got a DUI. (Chuckle /sarc./ Chuckle.)


22 posted on 02/11/2006 10:21:53 AM PST by no dems ("99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name." Steven Wright)
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To: angkor
I'm not sure who I'd rather see prosecuted -- the leakers, or the reporters and editors who put out the information to a wide audience.

I guess it's most likely that the leakers, will get prosecuted -- and not anyone at the Times.

23 posted on 02/11/2006 10:21:56 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark
Bill Keller, executive editor of The Times, said that no one at the paper had been contacted in connection with the investigation and defended the paper's reporting.

"Before running the story we gave long and sober consideration to the administration's contention that disclosing the program would damage the country's counterterrorism efforts," Mr. Keller said. "We were not convinced then, and have not been convinced since, that our reporting compromised national security. What our reporting has done is set off an intense national debate about the proper balance between security and liberty — a debate that many government officials of both parties, and in all three branches of government, seem to regard as in the national interest."


Good thing the New York Times is in charge of deciding national security issues. Didn't you vote for Bill Keller in the 2004 election?
24 posted on 02/11/2006 10:22:00 AM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: 68skylark
"There is a very strong argument that a federal common-law reporters' privilege exists and that privilege would protect confidential sources in this case. There is an extremely strong public interest in this information and the public has the right to understand this controversial and possibly unconstitutional public policy."

Leaving aside the self-serving final paragraph (above), this was a surprisingly balanced article -- taking pains to develop each side of the argument.

One might even interpret it as a conscious effort to tip-toe back from the edge of the cliff...

This interpretation is furthered advanced by the fact that they chose to publish it on Saturday, when it will get the least readership and attention.

25 posted on 02/11/2006 10:22:36 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Patriot from Philly

Judith Miller certainly won't object to the irony of witnessing her boss and their boss doing a little time in an orange jump suit, will she.


26 posted on 02/11/2006 10:23:05 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: 68skylark

Choice quote:For news organizations the inquiry threatens it's ability to protect sources and report on controversial national security issues."The writer is trying to muddy the waters here.This isn't about protecting a writers source.The NYTimes published sensitive information(re an ongiong intel gathering op)knowingly in violation of our nations laws that may have compromised our fight against terrorism.The information was meant to kept secret,but the msm in their infinite arrogance deemed it fit to print,regardless of the consequences.Find the source(s)and prosecute.Simple.


27 posted on 02/11/2006 10:23:59 AM PST by Thombo2
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To: conservative in nyc

If these people had been around in WWII, they could have printed shipping schedules. They would have printed our invasion plans for Normandy and other places. They would have told the Germans and Japanese that the allies had broken their codes. They'd have printed anything to get Americans killed.


28 posted on 02/11/2006 10:24:06 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: MNJohnnie
They can't put those old media wannabe journalists too far under the jail for me. Let's just hope something comes of all this. If it does it will only be reported accurately here.
29 posted on 02/11/2006 10:24:53 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support the New Media and F.R.)
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To: okie01
This interpretation is furthered advanced by the fact that they chose to publish it on Saturday, when it will get the least readership and attention.

Yeah, I think you're right about the Saturday publication of this story.

30 posted on 02/11/2006 10:25:13 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark
I guess it's most likely that the leakers, will get prosecuted -- and not anyone at the Times.

How much investigation is required to prosecute the publisher? We know the publishers identity, and what they published is out for all to see.

If it's in violation of 18 USC 798, get on with the indictment already.

31 posted on 02/11/2006 10:25:18 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: 68skylark

Jail time could convince them.


32 posted on 02/11/2006 10:25:41 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support the New Media and F.R.)
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To: Mo1; kcvl; deport

Mark.


33 posted on 02/11/2006 10:25:46 AM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: 68skylark
First step: Get it right.

a once highly classified domestic eavesdropping terrorist surveillance program

34 posted on 02/11/2006 10:28:27 AM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: Thombo2
Find the source(s)and prosecute. Simple.

There's not even a need to "find the source" in order to prosecute the Times of publishing. If the evidence shows the Times is in violation of the publication statute, Gonzales has asserted that they WILL be indicted.

The investigation reported in this article is to find the leaker, but there is no need to know who the leaker is, in order to prosecute the publisher.

35 posted on 02/11/2006 10:29:33 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: 68skylark

Put the traitors in jail!!!!!


36 posted on 02/11/2006 10:30:37 AM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: Publius6961
I would rather see the results reviving the concept of "treason",

I agree. The concept has needed revived since 1971.

37 posted on 02/11/2006 10:31:10 AM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: rodguy911
Jail time could convince them.

I don't know. It's always nice to think that a criminal feels remorse, and feels the error in his ways -- or that he will come to feel remorse in the future.

But this bunch seems pretty much immune to those feelings.

38 posted on 02/11/2006 10:31:10 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark
Theodore J. Boutrous Jr., who has represented publications like The Wall Street Journal and Time magazine said, "There is a very strong argument that a federal common-law reporters' privilege exists and that privilege would protect confidential sources in this case. There is an extremely strong public interest in this information and the public has the right to understand this controversial and possibly unconstitutional public policy."

In other words "We are innocent!!!"
39 posted on 02/11/2006 10:31:35 AM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: okie01
One might even interpret it as a conscious effort to tip-toe back from the edge of the cliff...

The bell cannot be unrung. They published. If the publication violates the statute, then the government needs to prosecute.

There is no way to unpublish or otherwise tip-toe-back from that cliff.

And the publisher is liable regardless of who the leaker is.

40 posted on 02/11/2006 10:32:49 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: My Favorite Headache
I like rapid too, it's so unusual for Washington, isn't it? Besides rapidly assembling an investigative team, and interviewing the spooks, "prosecutors have taken steps to activate a grand jury in the case."

I don't think any of this would have happened so quickly if it harming our national security weren't a foregone conclusion.

41 posted on 02/11/2006 10:33:43 AM PST by YaYa123
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To: Patriot from Philly
I don't think the elites at the New York Times will enjoy jail.

It won't come to that of course, but if it ever did I'm sure most could teach the cellblock homos some fancy New York tricks. They might enjoy it more than you think.

42 posted on 02/11/2006 10:33:59 AM PST by Bernard Marx (Fools and fanatics are always certain of themselves, but the wise are full of doubts.)
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To: 68skylark
"This could get interesting".

You can bet the dems are working on something for the press to talk about (and the press will be eager to oblige) to take this off the front page so it can disappear like "Oil for Food", "Able Danger", Sandy Berger and Vince Foster.

43 posted on 02/11/2006 10:34:02 AM PST by Baynative (Our congress has become a political version of "American Idol" - they idolize themselves)
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To: 68skylark
One of the Clinton-era scandals that's closest to this one is the matter of the hundreds of FBI files on Republicans that the White House was hoarding. The Democrats never worried much about privacy violations in those days.

IMHO,The possesion of FBI files or/copies that she is not authorized to possess,Constitutes "Illegal Domestic Spying"

Who hired Craig Livingstone??

44 posted on 02/11/2006 10:36:36 AM PST by HP8753 (My cat thinks Mark Dayton is a flake)
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To: okie01; 68skylark

The article is dated tomorrow. It wasn't up on their website late last night. This will be in the Sunday papers.


45 posted on 02/11/2006 10:37:17 AM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc

That's interesting. We'll see.


46 posted on 02/11/2006 10:38:22 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: Patriot from Philly
I don't think the elites at the New York Times will enjoy jail.

Yes, the quality of the brie and chardonnay there is terrible.

47 posted on 02/11/2006 10:39:05 AM PST by Hardastarboard (HEY - Billy Joe! You ARE an American Idiot!)
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To: The Drowning Witch

PING!


48 posted on 02/11/2006 10:39:21 AM PST by Jackknife ( "I bet after seeing us, George Washington would sue us for calling him 'father'." —Will Rogers)
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To: 68skylark

Reporters don't hold clearance and cannot be prosecuted (except for contempt, e.g., Judith Miller).

Which is why I hope the NSA leakers get very long sentences in Leavenworth. They had internal policies for recourse, and they ignored them. Violated them. Intentionally.

This has got to stop.

People need to go to jail.


49 posted on 02/11/2006 10:40:13 AM PST by angkor
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To: Patriot from Philly

There's no chance the NYTs nor any other MSM people will have to go to jail. John McCain won't allow it. It might cost him some media time and support.


50 posted on 02/11/2006 10:41:32 AM PST by kjo
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