[Greg o the Navy]

Bringing a sense of humor and in-your-face attitude to teaching the Creation Story will certainly make steam come out of the Secular Humanists' ears. I think this is great ... the kind of thing that can bury the lib shi*heads.

[Ronaldus Magnus Reagan]

I disagree. I think this is terrible. It's further proof that the hard-core religious right is an embarrassment to the conservative movement. When you ignore scientific evidemce in school, it's no wonder that the schools in the U.S. lag behind other developed nations.

[Renderofveils]

The only problem with his theory is that humankind can trace our time farther back than 6000 years ago. The Egyptian calender (360 days, with 5 uncounted days of celebration) can be followed back to BEFORE 3000 BC.

[Coyoteman]

"Boys and girls," Ham said. If a teacher so much as mentions evolution, or the Big Bang, or an era when dinosaurs ruled the Earth, "you put your hand up and you say, 'Excuse me, were you there?' Can you remember that?"

If that is the best the creationists can do, those who study evolution have no worries.

This fellow has absolutely no concept of the scientific method. (Does he have books to sell, or something?)

Here is just one tiny piece of the evidence in support of evolution:

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Fossil: Sts 5 Site: Sterkfontein Cave South Africa (1)

Discovered By: R. Broom & J. Robinson 1947 (1)

Estimated Age of Fossil: 2.5 mya * determined by Stratigraphic, floral & faunal data (1, 4)

Species Name: Australopithecus africanus (1, 2)

Gender: Male (based on CAT scan of wisdom teeth roots) (1, 30) Female (original interpretation) (4)

Cranial Capacity: 485 cc (2, 4)

Information: No tools found in same layer (4)

Interpretation: Erect posture (based on forward facing foramen magnum) (8)

Nickname: Mrs. Ples (1)

See original source for notes:
http://www.mos.org/evolution/fossils/fossilview.php?fid=24

[peyton randolph]

*PING*

[peyton randolph]

"So who should you always trust, God or the scientists?" The children answered with a thundering: "God!"

There's one born every minute - P.T. Barnum. Where do they find the rest of them? Religious cults.

[beaver fever]

"A former high-school biology teacher, Ham travels the nation training children as young as 5 to challenge science orthodoxy. He doesn't engage in the political and legal fights that have erupted over the teaching of evolution. His strategy is more subtle: He aims to give people who trust the biblical account of creation the confidence to defend their views — aggressively."

"He doesn't engage in the political and legal fights that have erupted over the teaching of evolution. His strategy is more subtle:"

He is engaged 100% in a legal and political struggle. The man is an ignorant demagogue. It's people like this that give conservatism a bad name. Creationists are no better than the Taliban and Al Quaeda.

They are preaching to the choir, just a different choir.

[LibFreeOrDie]

"you put your hand up and you say, 'Excuse me, were you there?'

With that as your criteria, you could dismiss all American history that occurred before our lifetimes.

[VOA]

bump

[TheBrotherhood]

"With dinosaur puppets and silly cartoons, he was training them to reject much of geology, paleontology and evolutionary biology as a sinister tangle of lies."

And they are - ie, a single tangle of lies.

To have faith in evolution is to have a belief in darwinian dogma.

[Wormwood]

Solipsism as science.

[SteveMcKing]

My 2 cents for tonight..... Molecular life manifests the same way that crystals organize. Creationist logic should dictate that God creates crystals directly, not by natural processes.

[Wormwood]

With pulpit-thumping passion, Ham insists the Bible be taken literally: God created the universe and all its creatures in six 24-hour days, roughly 6,000 years ago.

Which is ridiculous since all evidence points to the fact that Marduk fashioned the earth from the body of Tiamat.

[jec41]

Is this satire

[jec41]

"Boys and girls," Ham said. If a teacher so much as mentions evolution, or the Big Bang, or an era when dinosaurs ruled the Earth, "you put your hand up and you say, 'Excuse me, were you there?' Can you remember that?"

I like this, when someone tells you God created the universe,"you put your hand up and you say, 'Excuse me, were you there?' Can you remember that?"

When someone tells you about Ark and flood, "you put your hand up and you say, 'Excuse me, were you there?' Can you remember that?"

When anyone tells you anything about the Bible "you put your hand up and you say, 'Excuse me, were you there?' Can you remember that?

This thought is more primitive and suppressive than Islam.

[185JHP]

Junk evo "science" with a deny the Lord and the truth of His Word agenda - mockery is well deserved and very appropriate...

[spunkets]

"Evangelist Ken Ham smiled at the 2,300 elementary students packed into pews...he was training them to reject much of geology, paleontology and evolutionary biology as a sinister tangle of lies."

satan's little helper.

[Lunatic Fringe]

Ham insists the Bible be taken literally: God created the universe and all its creatures in six 24-hour days, roughly 6,000 years ago.

Indoctrinating 5-year olds with such nonsense... many FReepers will cheer because after all, schools "indoctinate" kids all the time with leftist agendas.

[BCrago66]

"Boys and girls," Ham said. If a teacher so much as mentions evolution, or the Big Bang, or an era when dinosaurs ruled the Earth, "you put your hand up and you say, 'Excuse me, were you there?' Can you remember that?
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This passage demonstrates a protest, not just against the scientific method, but against the process of reasoning in general, and therefore against all the progress in human history that results therefrom. What distinguishes us from animals is the fact that we can reason from what we see, to discover principles that apply to matters that we do not see.

"Were you these?" is an appeal to ignorance and know-nothingism; it's the sort of thing a child would say, and it's appropriate that this joker must go to children to get an affirmative responce.

Creationism is hedonism; intellectual (or anti-intellectual) hedonism, i.e., believing something because it makes you feel good to believe in it. It has nothing to do with science, and nothing to do with reason.

Even if evolution were seriously called into question, it would not support creationism, and more than questions about the theory of lightning-formation would support the idea of a lightning-God.

[RadioAstronomer]

I think this is great

Teaching kids a bunch of clap-trap is great?

[sangrila]

It is 2006.