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So what can we do to get her to lose here in the senate seat... That is where we have to focus. Defeat her NOW, then we won't have to wait till 08..

NY is a hotbed of hyphenates----the argments against her reelection in NY need to be very different from presidential voters in the rest of America.Hillary will have to fellate every ethnic in creation to sew up Senate votes.

You might bring up the pardon issue: Revelations of sleaziness in Clinton’s vast list of last-minute pardons. might fly in cetain areas. Here's some bgrnd.

In upstate, three small Hasidic Jewish settlements in the northern New York county of Rockland with 1,500 or so voters, two of these villages voted radical liberal Hillary into office overwhelmingly – despite Orthodox claiming to oppose abortion, gay rights, feminism, and so on. These villages gave Hillary got an astounding 90 percent-plus margins over Rick Lazio.

In one village called New Square, almost 100 percent for Hillary. WHY? Pres Clinton secretly gave last-minute pardons to four New Square civic leaders who had been tried and convicted of government fraud, colluding in a massive conspiracy to defraud the US Department of Education, the Department of Housing and Urban Development, the Small Business Administration, the Social Security Administration , and the IRS, including crimes of embezzlement, mail fraud, wire fraud, making false statements, money laundering, filing a false tax return, and failing to file a tax return, and obtaining millions of dollars in fraudulent student financial aid, rental subsidies, fraudulent social security benefits, and small business loans.

Jann Wenner, editor of Rolling Stone magazine, submitted a list to Bill Clinton of 14 people he wanted to see pardoned. Every one of these people were drug offenders and a presidential pardon was issued to every single person on that list.

Marc Rich. This is the Big One. Marc Rich was the biggest tax cheat in US history who renounced US citizenship to evade prosecution. Rich traded with several nations, Libya and Iraq included, that were subjects of US trade sanctions. Rich’s ex-wife Denise lavished millions on the Democrats and Bill Clinton.

Beth Dozoretz, a socialite, big-time Democratic Party fund-raiser, and pal of Bill Clinton, according to Newsweek talked to Clinton a few times about the Marc Rich pardon and, pledged $1,000,000 for the Clinton library.

Susan McDougal. She covered for Bill in Whitewater and he issued a pardon for her fraud conviction.

Bill pardoned FALN Puerto Rican nationalists noted for bombings (sound familiar?)----since Latino votes were there for the taking.

Hugh Rodham, Hillary’s brother pocketed $400,000 to lobby for two pardons: for a drug smuggler and a swindler. Both get pardons. Bill and Hillary denied any knowledge of Hugh’s involvement. Hillary later had a press conference when questions arose about Huey's $400,000. Someone counted Hillary's 25 "I don’t knows." She didn’t know her brother was involved (snicker).