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Cheney and shooting victim were hunting illegally, officials say
Kansas City Star/Dallas Morning News ^ | 2-13-06 | Dave Michaels and Todd J. Gillman

Posted on 02/13/2006 7:51:12 PM PST by Herford Turley

DALLAS - Vice President Dick Cheney was hunting illegally - without the required $7 stamp on his license for quail - when he accidentally shot one of his hunting partners, Texas Parks and Wildlife officials said Monday.

And so was Harry Whittington, 78, who was recovering Monday from a shotgun blast to the face, neck and chest. In its report, the state agency that oversees hunting and fishing said it found that neither Cheney nor Whittington had purchased the game bird stamp required to hunt quail in Texas, although both had valid hunting licenses. Both will get warning citations, and there will be no fine or other penalty.

Cheney's office said Monday he hadn't realized he was lacking the proper stamp and has since sent a $7 check to the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department.

"I don't know how they missed it," said Cheney spokeswoman Jennifer Mayfield. A statement from Cheney's office said his staff had asked for applicable permits and would "take whatever steps are needed to comply with applicable rules."

Cheney has not commented publicly about the accident, which took place on the 50,000-acre Armstrong Ranch in Kenedy County on Saturday afternoon.

The incident dominated cable TV, radio and talk shows Monday and provoked heated exchanges between the White House press corps and Bush press secretary Scott McClellan on the nearly 24-hour delay in disclosing the accidental shooting.

McClellan said Cheney's first priority - and that of the White House - was to ensure that Whittington got proper medical care, though he had no ready explanation for why that precluded public disclosure.

He said Bush aide Karl Rove told the president about 8 p.m. Saturday that Cheney had shot someone, and McClellan learned that night from the White House Situation Room "that there had been a hunting accident, and that is was a member of the vice president's hunting party." More details emerged in a 6 a.m. Sunday call from aides, and McClellan said he urged the vice president's office to get the news out "as quickly as possible."

Kenedy County Sheriff Ramon Salinas III said he knew about the incident Saturday evening and decided then not interview witnesses based on information from others that the shooting was accidental.

Bush said nothing about it when he passed reporters at church Sunday morning, and no one from the White House staff discussed it with the national media until that afternoon, nearly 24 hours later.

"The vice president thought that Mrs. Armstrong should be the first one to go out there and provide that information to the public, which she did. She reached out early Sunday morning" to the local newspaper in Corpus Christi, McClellan said.

Joel Goldstein, an authority on the vice presidency and a law professor at St. Louis University, said the incident is ready-made for late-night comics, noting that apart from the famous duel in which Vice President Aaron Burr shot and killed Alexander Hamilton, "you don't think about the vice president going around shooting people."

That alone can hurt both Cheney and the administration, he said, adding, "This is just going to make him more of a lightning rod-slash-laughingstock."

But the real damage, he said, comes from the delay in revealing the incident. The benefit of avoiding mention on the Sunday morning's talk shows, he said, was far outweighed by the fact that it fuels perceptions of a vice president "obsessed with secrecy."

He cited the Cheney-led energy task force, the "time spent in undisclosed locations," the vice president's role in the domestic wiretapping policy and the fact that his chief of staff, Scooter Libby, has been implicated in leaking the name of a CIA officer to discredit her husband.

On Monday, the third hunter in Cheney's hunting party said that she believes Cheney was not at fault. "We really thought he (Whittington) was way back behind us," said Pamela Willeford, the U.S. ambassador to Switzerland since October 2003.

She was on a brief vacation visiting her husband, Dr. George Willeford, III, a gastroenterologist in Austin. Dr. Willeford was also hunting at the Armstrong ranch but in a different field at the time of the shooting about a mile away.

She said Whittington was perhaps 90 feet away when the vice president shot him, as he was tracking a quail that had flown up and dipped back down, and only she, Cheney and Whittington were hunting at the time. Two others were waiting in a car nearby - Katharine Armstrong and Serita Hixon - in keeping with a safety rule that limits the number of hunters to three at a time, she said.

"The three of us were out of the vehicle hitting a covey," she said. "Harry Whittington dropped back to pick up a bird he'd shot. The vice president and I moved on to shoot another covey and unbeknownst to us Harry had picked up a bird and caught up with us. He had walked up and we didn't realize that he had caught up with us," she said.

"He was back behind us and we turned off to the left to shoot another covey ... The bird came up and was going back down and you know how you swing on it, with your gun, following a bird," she said.

Mrs. Willeford said she'd hunted once before with Cheney and would do so again.

"Absolutely," Mrs. Willeford said. "He's a great shot. He's very safety conscious. This is something that unfortunately was a bad accident and when you're with a group like that, he's safe or safer than all the rest of us."

She said she was surprised at the hubbub stemming from the delay in putting out word of the incident.

"The focus was on Mr. Whittington and his well being. There was no intention not to share the pertinent info at the proper time," she said, adding that Cheney never consulted with her over how the handle the incident. Armstrong said she made the decision to inform the Corpus Christi Caller-Times about the accident on Sunday. Armstrong and her mother, Anne Armstrong, were too occupied with tending to Whittington and worrying about his condition to make it public on Saturday, she said.

She said she spoke to Cheney on Sunday and he agreed with her decision.

"I said, `Mommy, this important news. This needs to get out,'" Katharine Armstrong said. "We ran it by the vice president and he was very mindful of his role as a guest. He said something along the lines of, `You all do whatever you are comfortable with.'"

Cheney stayed at the Armstrong Ranch on Saturday night. "We had dinner and went to bed," Katharine Armstrong said. "We were all very worried about Harry. That was the main thing on our mind."

Sally (Whittington) May said her father does not recall a lot of the incident, nor was he involved in how or if information about the incident was released: "He didn't know at the time if he was going to the hospital or the mortuary."

The doctors were back around Monday morning. They have mostly been concerned with injuries to his throat. She said her dad is back to joking.

"One of the surgeons said, `We'll get this BB from near the liver, and go ahead and get that other one at the same time.' The surgeon looked at him and said, `that way we'll kill two birds with one stone.' And he said, "I consider that a poor choice of words.'" Kenedy County investigators on Monday determined that the shooting was an accident after interviewing their last witness and said "there was no alcohol or misconduct on anyone's part."

But questions remained as to why Cheney was not interviewed on Saturday.

Chief Deputy Gilbert San Miguel suggested he always knew where the vice president and the other witnesses were.

"We were always in contact with Secret Service," he said.

Salinas said he decided Saturday night not to send anyone to the ranch and added that he was relying on information from others that it was an accident.

"If I wanted to go in there, we would have gone in there," said Salinas. "If someone called and told me there was a shooting and they didn't think it was an accident, I'd have five or six people on the ranch." Chief San Miguel returned to the ranch about 8 a.m. Sunday and interviewed Cheney and other witnesses, Salinas said.

"They've cooperated," he said. "They didn't treat us like backdoor law enforcement. They didn't hide anything or try to coerce anybody to say anything." Cheney "felt kind of bad" about the accident, Chief San Miguel told Sheriff Salinas, but everyone was calm, Sheriff Salinas said.

"It's just another accident," Salinas said. "But of course it' s the vice president. Nobody's perfect." The other hunters present on Saturday included ranch manager Anne Armstrong; Whittington's wife, Merce; Ambassador Willeford; and her husband, George "Boots" Willeford. Anne Armstrong's two daughters, Katharine Armstrong and Serita Hixon, were there. So was Hixon's husband, Bob.

Whittington shot two birds, which he left to retrieve and put into a truck, Katharine Armstrong said. As Whittington re-approached the group, he was walking through a low point in the land where they couldn't see him, Ms. Armstrong said.

"The cardinal rule is you stay on line," Katharine Armstrong said.

A Secret Service agent called Salinas on his cell phone "five to 10 minutes" after the shooting occurred, the sheriff said. And San Miguel, the department's chief deputy, went to


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1 posted on 02/13/2006 7:51:13 PM PST by Herford Turley
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To: Herford Turley
Impeach Him

Signed,

DU, DailyKos, DNC, MSM, and 10% of FR.

2 posted on 02/13/2006 7:52:08 PM PST by COEXERJ145 ("I hope the Republicans suffer huge defeats in the House/Senate in 2006!"-xrp [Weekly Dumb Comment])
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To: Herford Turley

"But the real damage, he said, comes from the delay in revealing the incident."

Yes, how will they ever recover? LOL!!!


3 posted on 02/13/2006 7:53:55 PM PST by frankjr
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To: COEXERJ145

"Impeach Him"

Was there ever any doubt???


4 posted on 02/13/2006 7:54:39 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Herford Turley

I hear Bush will pardon him. ;)


5 posted on 02/13/2006 7:54:41 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Herford Turley

received warnings

probably the least of their concerns


6 posted on 02/13/2006 7:55:40 PM PST by wildcatf4f3 (I'm becoming a performance artist so i can crap on the koran in public)
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To: COEXERJ145

Yup. Isn't the left's hyperventilation over this amusing? They really have no idea how stupid it makes them look to most people. Their stupidity and arrogance really are some of our best assets.


7 posted on 02/13/2006 7:55:45 PM PST by piytar
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To: Herford Turley

Ya, but how much is a lawyer stamp?


8 posted on 02/13/2006 7:55:50 PM PST by ansel12
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To: Herford Turley

I'd say cops have more important things to do than drop everything to investigate an obviously minor hunting accident.


9 posted on 02/13/2006 7:56:11 PM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: COEXERJ145

Poaching, attempted manslaughter, failure to hit a quail.


10 posted on 02/13/2006 7:56:12 PM PST by gotribe (Hillary: Accessory to Rape)
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To: Herford Turley
This doesn't make sense. I'm looking at my license now and its a seasonal license for all game types- the kind I always purchase. It doesn't have specific type stamps, you tear off tags for your kills.
11 posted on 02/13/2006 7:56:26 PM PST by mnehring (Perry 06- It's better than a hippie in a cowboy hat or a commie with blue hair.)
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To: COEXERJ145
"10% of FR."

Who are they? The Buchannites?
12 posted on 02/13/2006 7:56:57 PM PST by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: COEXERJ145

And he was in Bush's home state! If that doesn't extend an impeachable offense to W, then nothing will! Add it to the culture of corruption of Gannon, Plame, Florida 2000, Ohio 2004, Katrina, NSA Wiretaps, and um....I'm sure there's bunches more.


13 posted on 02/13/2006 7:57:01 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (History is a work in progress)
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To: Herford Turley
His resignation is now a foregone conclusion......

.....in the RATs' wet dreams!!!!!

14 posted on 02/13/2006 7:57:05 PM PST by clintonh8r (If you don't support the mission you don't support the troops. Period.)
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To: frankjr
I just wish Scott had told those press idiots "Yeah, we delayed telling you because we knew it would piss you off" I would have sent a check to the RNC.

All this did was give those fools another chance to mug for the cameras, and it will backfire again, just like everything else. It plays right into the "angry liberal" attack line that the RNC will hang around the neck of Democrats all year long.

15 posted on 02/13/2006 7:57:14 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Herford Turley

Please que the John Kerry Sound bite, " Can I get me a huntin license here?"


16 posted on 02/13/2006 7:57:25 PM PST by Holicheese (GO BU-2006 Beanpot Champs)
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To: Herford Turley
Yep. I would say pretty darn close to a Barf alert.

MSM response: "We are not going to take the word of anyone who was actually there during the incident because we know he did it on purpose while he was stone cold drunk hunting illegally and that is why he didn't tell anybody for 22 hours."

What a bunch of complete doofi.
17 posted on 02/13/2006 7:57:36 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: Herford Turley

Well, the only thing ol' Bill Clinton got caught with in his Crosshairs was Monika's "zipper", and "ya' all know what I'm talkin' 'bout!"


18 posted on 02/13/2006 7:58:09 PM PST by Prost1 (Sandy Berger can steal, Clinton can cheat, but Bush can't listen!)
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To: Herford Turley

Well, the only thing ol' Bill Clinton got caught with in his Crosshairs was Monika's "zipper", and "ya' all know what I'm talkin' 'bout!"


19 posted on 02/13/2006 7:58:12 PM PST by Prost1 (Sandy Berger can steal, Clinton can cheat, but Bush can't listen!)
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To: Herford Turley

I was driving home tonight and a news break came on the radio saying the VP was being cited for not having the proper stamp. The first thing I thought was, Wow, I didn't know you could get a stamp for Lawyer in Texas.


20 posted on 02/13/2006 7:58:48 PM PST by txroadkill (Are you a Texas Freeper?? Click my handle to find out.)
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To: COEXERJ145

Impeach? I'm surprised they're not demanding an execution! These libs are disgusting.


21 posted on 02/13/2006 7:58:48 PM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Herford Turley
without the required $7 stamp on his license for quail

Dang. I hate when that happens.
22 posted on 02/13/2006 7:59:49 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Pukin Dog; eyespysomething
I just wish Scott had told those press idiots ...

Press idiots? What on earth could you be talking about?

Q Scott, would this be much more serious if the man had died?

24 posted on 02/13/2006 7:59:55 PM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: Herford Turley

Impeach the boy - over seven bucks. Why not?


25 posted on 02/13/2006 7:59:55 PM PST by Torie
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To: COEXERJ145

"Impeach Him

Signed,

DU, DailyKos, DNC, MSM, and 10% of FR."


DU, DailyKos, DNC, MSM, and 01% of FR.

I fixed that minor inverted number sequence error for you.

;-)

And I suspect that that 01% is largely unzotted trolls.


26 posted on 02/13/2006 8:00:06 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: mnehrling

Re: #11. The new 2005-2006 licenses do require an additional $7.00 for game birds, the 2004-2005 (mine) didn't.

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/nonpwdpubs/media/outdoor_annual_2005_2006.pdf


27 posted on 02/13/2006 8:00:10 PM PST by mnehring (Perry 06- It's better than a hippie in a cowboy hat or a commie with blue hair.)
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To: frankjr

Well, I am so upset by this incident that I vow NEVER to vote for Bush or Cheney again!


28 posted on 02/13/2006 8:00:19 PM PST by IrishRainy
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To: mnehrling

Upland Game Bird Stamp Endorsement (Type 167): $7
Required to hunt turkey, pheasant, quail, lesser prairie chicken, or chachalaca.


29 posted on 02/13/2006 8:00:22 PM PST by gotribe (Hillary: Accessory to Rape)
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To: Herford Turley

30 posted on 02/13/2006 8:00:44 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: frankjr
"But the real damage, he said, comes from the delay in revealing the incident."

Waiting for Teddy's opinion on this.

31 posted on 02/13/2006 8:00:51 PM PST by kanawa (Freaking panty wetting, weakspined bliss-ninny socialist punks)
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To: MizSterious

Yeah, I expect to read this story on the front page of the Los Angeles Times tomorrow, probably above the fold.

On second thought, no, I won't read it. But many Rats will. And they'll scream like ... Rats. Maybe Dr. Dean will have some more venom for the Rat media.


32 posted on 02/13/2006 8:00:59 PM PST by California Patriot
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To: Herford Turley

Did the Quayle rise to the level of an impeachable offense?


33 posted on 02/13/2006 8:01:16 PM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Pukin Dog
"It plays right into the "angry liberal" attack line that the RNC will hang around the neck of Democrats all year long."

It's going to be a lot of fun to taunt liberals this time around. They're like rabid animals; they can't help but bite.

34 posted on 02/13/2006 8:02:10 PM PST by Reactionary (The Moonbats Need an Enema)
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To: GladesGuru
Nope, the 10% was quite intentional.

There is a fairly large cabal on FR who want President Bush, VP Cheney, and every other Republican thrown out of office. Heck, I'm using one as my tag line right now in order to make fun of them.

35 posted on 02/13/2006 8:02:14 PM PST by COEXERJ145 ("I hope the Republicans suffer huge defeats in the House/Senate in 2006!"-xrp [Weekly Dumb Comment])
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To: Herford Turley

CHENEY WRITES $7 CHECK TO TX WILDLIFE
Mon Feb 13 2006 20:53:55 ET

THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Vice President

It has been brought to the Vice President’s attention by the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department this afternoon that, although he had acquired a 125 dollar Texas non-resident season hunting license, he lacked a 7 dollar stamp for hunting upland game birds. To address any questions about the licensing:

-- A member of the Vice President’s staff wrote a check for 140 dollars understanding that this would purchase a Texas non-resident season hunting license that would permit the Vice President to hunt quail in Texas. It appears now that the license itself cost 125 dollars, and an extra 15 dollars covered the cost of a Federal migratory bird stamp. The Vice President did not need the Federal stamp, as he already possessed one.

-- The staff asked for all permits needed, but was not informed of the 7 dollar upland game bird stamp requirement.

-- Because the requirement is new, the Department has informed us that it is issuing warnings, and the Vice President expects to receive one. He will take whatever steps are needed to comply with applicable rules.

-- In the meantime, the Vice President has sent a 7 dollar check to the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department, which is the cost of an upland game bird stamp.



http://www.drudgereport.com/flash9.htm


36 posted on 02/13/2006 8:02:31 PM PST by kcvl
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To: gotribe

Yep, I just discovered it was new for 2005-2006 license, I haven't renewed my 2004-2005 which is what I was looking at.


37 posted on 02/13/2006 8:02:42 PM PST by mnehring (Perry 06- It's better than a hippie in a cowboy hat or a commie with blue hair.)
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To: Herford Turley
The partridge posse always get their man.
38 posted on 02/13/2006 8:03:07 PM PST by labette (In the beginning God created....)
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To: Herford Turley

I want to know if he downed the quail.


39 posted on 02/13/2006 8:03:09 PM PST by Mr Cobol (We know how many seeds are in an apple, but only God knows how many apples are in a seed.)
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To: ansel12
"Ya, but how much is a lawyer stamp?"

Obviously it would be less than a quail hunting stamp - I wonder why the VP chose to buy the more expensive $7 bird stamp?

40 posted on 02/13/2006 8:03:59 PM PST by LZ_Bayonet
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To: Fresh Wind

I love that pic. A local cajun restaurant has a blow up of that right in the entrance waiting area.


41 posted on 02/13/2006 8:04:01 PM PST by mnehring (Perry 06- It's better than a hippie in a cowboy hat or a commie with blue hair.)
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To: ansel12
LOL....NOW THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD GET PROPOSED!!!! A LAWYER STAMP!!!
42 posted on 02/13/2006 8:04:22 PM PST by goodnesswins (Too many idiots....so little time.)
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To: Herford Turley
She said she was surprised at the hubbub stemming from the delay in putting out word of the incident.

What is up with this unhealthy obsession that the public has a right to know everything every government employee is doing at all times INSTANTLY? Very unhealthy - brought on by the makers of instant communications 24/7/365. I long for the good ole 1950s again.

43 posted on 02/13/2006 8:06:00 PM PST by p23185
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To: kcvl
"The (Cheney) staff asked for all permits needed, but was not informed of the 7 dollar upland game bird stamp requirement."

Oh, reallllllyyyy??? Too many REGULATIONS to keep track of even for the BUREAUCRATS!

44 posted on 02/13/2006 8:06:01 PM PST by goodnesswins (Too many idiots....so little time.)
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To: COEXERJ145

"Impeach Him

Signed,

DU, DailyKos, DNC, MSM, and 10% of FR."

'It doesn't rise to the level...' Where have I heard that before?


45 posted on 02/13/2006 8:06:23 PM PST by demlosers (Kerry: "Impeach Bush, filibuster Alito, withdraw from Iraq, send U235 to Iran, elect me President!")
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To: goodnesswins
Washington State has an entire season dedicated to Lawyer Hunting. (I believe it is from Jan 1 - Dec 31)
http://www.rusbasan.com/Humor/Lawyer_Jokes/Lawyer_Hunting.html
46 posted on 02/13/2006 8:07:57 PM PST by mnehring (Perry 06- It's better than a hippie in a cowboy hat or a commie with blue hair.)
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To: frankjr

Isn't it amazing? The press is so full of itself. The biggest crime was not informing the press for almost a day. Sob, sob. Whine, whine.


47 posted on 02/13/2006 8:08:05 PM PST by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor to feed the Left)
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To: Reactionary
I'm watching the Daily Show.

Gotta be the funniest one ever.

I hate that the media is on this, but there is a TON of humor to come out of this.
48 posted on 02/13/2006 8:08:34 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: COEXERJ145

ROFLMAO............I think it's a little more than that!


49 posted on 02/13/2006 8:08:39 PM PST by Howlin ("QUICK HE'S BLEEDING. CALL THE WASH POST!")
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To: knuthom; Blurblogger; smoothsailing; Kryptonite

Feel free to gag ping!


50 posted on 02/13/2006 8:09:05 PM PST by Herford Turley (Conservatism will save America)
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