Posted on 02/15/2006 3:00:45 AM PST by Cornpone
A 41-year-old imam from eastern Norway has been sentenced to two-and-a-half years in prison after being convicted of raping a 30-year-old woman in the southern city of Kristiansand. The imam, originally from Pakistan, had been invited to Kristiansand by the local Muslim community during the holy season of Ramadan in the fall of 2004.
Aften attending an evening meeting at the local mosque, the imam encountered the woman on a local street. She was intoxicated at the time, and he allegedly asked if she needed help.
She claims she followed him to a room at the mosque, at which point he tried to fondle her and then raped her. The court claimed she was under the influence and depressed, while he was sober and at an advantage.
The imam denied that he raped the woman, but has admitted having sex with her.
In addition to the prison term, the imam was ordered to pay the woman NOK 100,000 (about USD 15,000) in compensation.
His defense attorney, Bjørn Stefanussen, said he would appeal the conviction. "The court has only taken into consideration the plaintiff's explanation, and my client hasn't been believed," said Stefanussen.
Pardon my bluntness, but sometimes shock therapy is necessary:
Assalamu-alleikum (=Peace to all).
Peace to you also.
First of all I must tell you that there are people pretending to be Muslims,but do not really follow The orders of Allah (=God) and the Prophet Muhammad (peace upon with him).
A few problems here. Allah is satan, not God. God does not require human sacrifice (e.g., 'striking the heads off of the infidels'), nor thrive on hatred. God does not appeal to the lusts of men with carnal bribery (e.g., 72 virgins awaiting the 'martyrs of jihad'). The 'prophet Muhammad' was satan's messenger and although I'm in no position to judge the fate of anyone's afterlife -- by Mr. Muhammad's account in the koran and haydith, he's most likely frying in hell, so its highly unlikely he's in a state of 'peace'. I do agree with you that many who call themselves muslims don't follow the orders of satan and his messenger as laid out in the koran and haydiths. Thank God for that.
Concerning the story with the Imam and the raping: According to the Sharia he has to be punished with death penalty.(like stoning to death).
Wouldn't Mr. Muhammad's sexual relationship with an 8 year old girl constitute 'rape' in most societies?
The pictures showing people with blood and so on.There are over 70 different forms of Islamic paths.The most of them are wrong.The cutting of the skin is typical of Shiites.According to the Scholars (except some Shiite scholars) it is a sin.The Shiits sacrifice themselves for the killing of Hassan and Hussein (sons of Ali=son in law of Muhammad (p.b.u.h).THis is haram (=not allowed).
Actually, I for one don't have a big problem with anyone self-flaggelating themselves. I personally think its stupid; but if you're only harming yourself -- and presumably just superficially -- go for it. My problem with islam (all 70+ 'paths') is their two foundational books - the koran and haydith. Clearly they were written under the inspiration of satan, and anyone who follows them is on the path to peridition. Turn around while you can.
Seek ye the Lord while He may be found. Call ye upon Him while He is near.
Try the Word of Truth - the Bible. Peace be with you.
Dont waste your time telling us this and trying to make excuses... its muslims you should be trying to convince.
From a hugely popular and influential islamic site:
If a female was raped due to her not maintaining the laws of Hijaab, she is partly to be blamed as the rapist will be considered as being seduced by her revealing form and shape. She should make Tawbah (sincerely repent) by also adhering to the laws of Hijaab.and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best
Mufti Ebrahim Desai
FATWA DEPT.
It seems to be a little known fact outside of muslum nations that the islamic slave rag is in fact seen as a magical anti-rape marker to brand your property with, in the way someone may brand an animal.
The Rape Jihad By Robert Spencer.Each of us was raped by between three and six men .One woman refused to have sex with them, so they split her head into pieces with an axe in front of us.
This happened in Darfur, from which Sudanese military personnel actually airlifted women to Khartoum to serve as sex slaves.
Meanwhile, Indira Dzetskelova, the mother of one of the child hostages in Beslan, Russia, reports that several 15-year-old girls were raped by terrorists. Her daughter heard their terrible cries and screams when those monsters took them away.
This indicates that there are two things the massacre in Beslan have in common with the ongoing massacres in Darfur: both, no less than the 9/11 attacks, are examples of Islamic jihad terrorism, and both are characterized by rape.
The jihadist element has been made clear by the ringleaders of both atrocities. Sudanese General Mohamed Beshir Suleiman recently declared: The door of the jihad is still open and if it has been closed in the south it will be opened in Darfur. In southern Sudan, of course, the jihad was waged against Christians; in Darfur, the targets are black African Muslims whose Islamic bona fides dont satisfy Khartoum. As for Beslan, the Chechen jihadist leader Shamil Besayev warned the Russian government last winter: Praise Allah, we are dreaming of dying in jihad, we are dreaming of dying on the way of Allah, so that we could earn paradise and mercy of Allah.
What does rape, then, have to do with these religious conflicts? Unfortunately, everything. The Islamic legal manual Umdat al-Salik, which carries the endorsement of Al-Azhar University, the most respected authority in Sunni Islam, stipulates: When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the womans previous marriage is immediately annulled. Why? So that they are free to become the concubines of their captors. The Quran permits Muslim men to have intercourse with their wives and their slave girls: Forbidden to you are ... married women, except those whom you own as slaves (Sura 4:23-24).
After one successful battle, Muhammad tells his men, Go and take any slave girl. He took one for himself also. After the notorious massacre of the Jewish Qurayzah tribe, he did it again. According to his earliest biographer, Ibn Ishaq, Muhammad went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for [the men of Banu Qurayza] and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. After killing 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900, the Prophet of Islam took one of the widows he had just made, Rayhana bint Amr, as another concubine.
Emerging victorious in another battle, according to a generally accepted Islamic tradition, Muhammads men present him with an ethical question: We took women captives, and we wanted to do azl [coitus interruptus] with them. Muhammad told them: It is better that you should not do it, for Allah has written whom He is going to create till the Day of Resurrection. When Muhammad says it is better that you should not do it, hes referring to coitus interruptus, not to raping their captives. He takes that for granted.
With Muhammad revered throughout the Islamic world as al-insan al-kamil, the perfect man, the rapes of Darfur and Beslan are nothing surprising. What is surprising, or ought to be, is the silence from the Islamic world about the rapes in both cases. Where are the reformers who will dare to say that Muhammads example must not be followed in this case? Who will acknowledge that the world has developed principles of human rights that must supercede those forged in seventh-century Arabia? Where are the Western spokesmen who are not so in thrall to multiculturalism that they will condemn rape that is justified according to Islamic religious principles? The much-lionized Muslim Martin Luther, Tariq Ramadan, now banned from entering the U.S., can so far only bring himself to call for a moratorium, not a definitive ban, on stoning for adulterers. Rape of captives? His sentiments are not known. Where is the Muslim Solzhenitsyn, who will speak honestly about the aspects of Islam that so desperately need reform, and call for the overhaul that the system so obviously needs?The whole world is waiting. But for the girls and women of Darfur and Beslan, it is already too late.
A common theme elsewhere:
Rape: Nothing to do with Islam?I got some comments, among others from Norwegian blogger Bjørn Stærk, to my posts about the Norwegian government covering up the number of rapes committed by immigrants. The Swedish government is probably even worse, but Sweden is in many ways collapsing. Although he agreed that the statistics should be published, he questioned whether these rapes have anything to do with Islam. It is true that mass rapes of "the enemy's women", in part to humiliate the enemy's men, is not unique to Islam. It has been done at times of war by the Vikings, the Mongols, the Germans and the Russians during WW2, and all the way up to the Balkans in the 1990s. That's also my point. The number of rapes committed by Muslim immigrants in Western nations are so extremely high that it is difficult to view them only as random acts of individuals. It resembles warfare. This happens in most Western European countries, as well as in other infidels countries such as India. In Bradford, England, Channel 4 pulled a documentary about Pakistani and other Muslim men sexually abusing white English girls, some as young as 11. Writer Theodore Dalrymple thinks that "thanks to their cultural inheritance, (Muslim) abuse of women is systematic rather than unsystematic as it is with the whites and blacks." In France, grotesque reports about systematic gang rapes of French or "too Western" Muslim girls keep coming in. At the same time, European jails are getting filled up with Muslims imprisoned for robberies and all kinds of violent crimes, and Muslims bomb European civilians. You can see the mainstream media are struggling to make sense of all of this. That's because they can't, or don't want to, see the obvious: This is exactly how an invading army would behave. Rape, pillage and bomb.
I disagree that this has nothing to do with Islam. Muhammad himself had forced sex (rape) with several of his slave girls/concubines. This is perfectly allowed, both in the sunna and in the Koran. If you postulate that many of the Muslims in Europe view themselves as a conquering army and that European women are simply war booty, it all makes perfect sense and is in full accordance with Islamic law. And Muslims do follow their medieval religious laws, even today....
NOTE TO ALL:
The poster above is invoking the prophecy of the 73 sects and the concept of BIDAH to defend islam.
Why would Allah want to cause so many divisions among his own followers, and forsake so many, leaving them with less desirable ways to guarantee their entry into paradise, instead of having mercy and forgiving them?
If you are willing to open your heart to a real religion of peace, you'll come to undertand there is another option out there for you to reconsider.
"There are over 70 different forms of Islamic paths.The most of them are wrong."
I bet if I were to ask, you would say 69 are wrong. The right one, for you, would be what? Sunni. Since Shi'ite and Sufi are wrong. Please tell us the correct Islam, so taht we may know you.
Me? I am a Catholic Christian. Just so you know. I am sure that, to you, I fall in with the Sufi's.
Oh, it was hysterical hearing him talk about it. His facial expressions as he was recounting it were comical. The guy was essentially doing his work for him was the impression that I got. LOL
Gotta tell ya though, it's scary hearing about it.
ping to excellent post 28
Like most here everything I needed to know about islam I learned on 9/11,
AMEN thanks for the ping BTTT
Well, that religion itself is already a defiled religion.....so nothing new here!
Is that the same mohammad as the one here? The one that engaged in killing, wars for territorial expansion, genocide... the same mohammad whos examples (including the exploitation of women below) are set for his followers and noted in the hadeeths and considered to be "al insan al kamil" (the "perfect man") whose example muslims are to emulate? That mohammad?
Aisha the Child Wife of Muhammad
Safiyah, the Jewish (captured war booty) Wife of Muhammad
Mariyah the Sex Slave of the holy Prophet
Just checking we're on the same page here and that you're not trying to hold anything back as one might interpret that as deception.
Details at: thereligionofpeace.com.
"This is not real Islam"? After 9/11, the burden of proof is on your ummah, not ours. It is not unreasonable to conclude Islam is, as Islam does....
Mark for later read.
Cat got your tongue?
Yeah, bumping for Al to answer a few legitimate questions.
Though I expect him to never answer any charges raised.
So far, no reply..
Probably ran out of smoke and mirrors to try and fool the filthy kuffar with. I still cant believe it invoked bidah. It prevents any form of reformation enlightenment in islam and retains the 7th century mentality of the mass murderer himself.
I guess someone expected us all to bow down, submit or convert after reading the whitewash about mohammed. LOL.
Please ping me if he/she/it returns. I'm far from done yet...
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