The United States's long war

Mail & Guardian (South Africa) ^ | 15 February 2006 | Mail & Guardian

[Cronos]

ok, FACT -- Islam arose in the 7th century
FACT -- Isslam killed millions and conquered Christian territories like Syria, Egypt etc.
FACT -- Isslam threatens the world and has not self-destructed.

FACT -- Issslam is the enemy of today -- face reality

[Wonder Warthog]

"As I see it this is the most important thread on FreeRepublic it has had around 6 replies and not one has discussed the central issues, that this thread has raised."

What's to discuss?? Pace is obviously right, and anyone with a brain understands he is.

[prairiebreeze]

Arabs are very family and tribal oriented, and it is hard to get them to agree

Sounds like something exploitable if necessary.

[mdittmar]

Have you compared the land mass and the population of Iran to Afghanistan and Iraq?

OMG your right,contact Rumsfield quick!

[prairiebreeze]

the conversion of submarine-launched Trident nuclear missiles for use in conventional strikes

I can't figure out of they mean converting the missiles to non-nuclear, or something else.

Regardless, the Trident subs are very cool.

[prairiebreeze]

ping

[Wonder Warthog]

"This is not World War Three, its just a continuation of the left overs of the Cold War . What we have is a series of terrorist and insurgency groups loosely affiliated to each other at the most. The root cause of each insurgency is no different to those of the Communists. Poverty lack of work being a major cause, the dissatisfied masses. Islam rose because Communism died.

Balderdash. The only similarity is that they are both idiologically driven. The two philsophies are totally at odds with on another. "It's all about being poor" is typical Euro-twit thinking. The biggest purveyors of Islamofascism are the very wealthy Saudis.

[saveliberty]

Thank you, prairiebreeze! I remember all of the wailing in the Pentagon when Rummy announced that he was going to reorganize and restructure it. It may have been announced prior to 9/11 but I didn't pay attention to it until shortly thereafer. Lots of yelps of pain and distress by those who may have meant well, but needed to see that we can't continue to do what we used to do.

This is a challenge in the private sector too. Trying to show coworkers that there may be an easier way to succeed while the inclination might be "but we've always done it this way."

[patriciaruth]

We have more than one enemy today. If you focus on only one, the others will stab you in the back.

[metesky]

I quite agree, patriciaruth, but this is not new. President Bush told us all several years ago that this would be a long war "like no other", and I have never forgotten that.

We've had SF, Delta and CIA teams busy all over the world for a couple of years now and whenever I see some country or other making a major terrorist bust, in the back of my mind I always think our men and women have struck again whether they get the public credit or not.

I also agree that these radicals will not go away with a single defeat or even three, four or five defeats.

It is my personal belief that they, their families and their decendents must be made to bleed and suffer the way we made the Germans and Japanese bleed, suffer and die in WWII.

Or we could throw in the towel and live with our dhimmitude.

[patriciaruth]

The Secret even in Success war is the one that I wish I could live long enough to read about.

[Calpernia]

>>>US commanders envisage a war unlimited in time and space against global Islamist extremism<<<

This line makes me nervous.

I would have felt better if he just used the word terrorist.

Are we just at war with Islam? Cause if we are, that means our government is also at war with us.

If we are in a serious war, then we need to be fighting the enemy within. Because they are the ones that enabled Islamic extremism.

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Earth Charter and the Ark of Hope - New World Order

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A North American Community Approach to Security

[patriciaruth]

Gotta go.

Have fun everyone.

[Calpernia]

I don't think we ever finished WW2.

[Calpernia]

Cornpone, can you please add me to this ping list.

Thank you.

[Calpernia]

bump

[Calpernia]

>>>> It would be ironic is in defeating Islam we allowed Communism to reignite.

THIS is exactly what is happening!

[GeorgefromGeorgia]

Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn stated at some time in the 80s that there were more true Marxists in Western Universities than in the Soviet Union. This statement made two points. Communism was no longer an idealistic movement but a means of maintaining power. The second point was that naive academics just did not understand that Communism did not work.

Your comments touch on these two points. I agree that fools like Chavez, many University profs, the MSM and some in Hollywood still don't get it.
I disagree regarding China, Russia and North Korea. China has a large Communist Party that continues to maintain their power, however over the past 25 years they have dramatically changed the economic base of the country. China's Communists have in effect slowly but surely given up on Collectivism and state planning as the central role in China's economy. Free enterprise operated side by side with withering state owned industries. Time is not on the side of collectivism and state control. Political reform was set back in 1989, but with the Internet and exposure to the world China will likely shed its Communist Party as its political system.
Russia does have a large number of unreformed communists, but they are a small minority and mainly old and dying. I know Russians (mostly young) and they will never stand for returning to the old ways. North Korea is another story. Its leadership may still believe in Communism, but my guess is that few in that country are happy with the current system.

I do hope you are wrong about the dead hand of Communism handing over nuclear technology to radical islamists. The Russians may have figured out that Iran is a real danger to their security. North Korea is truly a loose cannon.

[Calpernia]

>>>>Which means, that the Al Gore's of the US, sit down and shut up for they do not know who the enemy is.

WRONG! The Al Gores are the ones that enabled the red herring so they can pass their own agendas through!



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How do you say No NAIS in Japanese?

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>>>The company's university links were the subject of a congressional enquiry, headed by then Congressman Al Gore, which concluded that the relationship was not detrimental to the university system.<<<

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Remember Al Gore and this fund raiser?

>>> Al Gore told the Washington Post last month, "that the painful experiences in life give you more of a chance for growth than the others." In the former vice president's list of painful experiences, the 1996 Clinton-Gore fundraising scandals must rank pretty high. Although Gore was never convicted of any wrongdoing, he engaged in a host of risky schemes to raise campaign money. Among the most striking was the notorious fundraiser at the Hsi Lai Buddhist Temple in Hacienda Heights, California, that netted $166,750 through an illegal straw-donor scheme.<<<

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1578025/posts
Earth Charter and the Ark of Hope - New World Order

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Rockefeller, Steven C. USA, Academic Person
• Professor of religious philosophy, author of the "Earth Charter"
>>>Buddhism and Ecology:
Buddhist Contributions to the Earth Charter<<<

[Calpernia]

Or sooner or later one must recognize a false flag.