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To: MNJohnnie
WHO are the current dollar holders going to SELL their dollars too?

The Iranians are linking up with China. The Chinese are sitting on an $800 billion currency stash.

They refuse to buy almost any American manufactures at all. They have a 5-to-1 trade imbalance, and the imports from us are skewed to raw materials (timber, raw ores, and foodstuffs), and one-time technology grafts into their production system...which turn around and increase their exports back to us., and they run a huge $102 billion surplus against the World.

To the extent they bother to buy our T-Bills, this will merely exacerbate the long-term balance of payments problem...because they still own the capital, and can demand it back...plus we...the taxpayers...will be milked for the interest and the return of the capital. The T-Bills are just being sold to continue the federal ponzi scheme import consumption frenzy.

They are not being recycled into financing restoration of U.S. industrial production, or anything like that. They just prop up the unproductive growth of the government.

As Ronald Reagan always said..."Government IS the problem..."

9 posted on 02/17/2006 7:44:20 AM PST by Paul Ross (Hitting bullets with bullets successfully for 35 years!)
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To: Paul Ross
The T-Bills are just being sold to continue the federal ponzi scheme import consumption frenzy. They are not being recycled into financing restoration of U.S. industrial production, or anything like that. They just prop up the unproductive growth of the government.

You've made an excellent point, the Grandfather Economic Report includes this graph:



In the report he writes:

Since successful military capacity is related to the potential of the private sector to support a large economic war-time surge, if needed, it is instructive to first compare the relative size of the private sector today to that before, during and after WW II and see how today's surge potential compares.

This chart shows a 70-year history of the private sector (blue line) share of the economy, compared to the relative size of the federal plus state & local government sector spending share (red line) of the U.S. economy. (the chart is from the Government Spending Report). Today's spending ratio is 43% of national income.

Note the huge down-draft of the private sector (blue line) share of the economy during the 1940s, which resulted from the equivalent upward jump of the government spending share of the economy (red line).

That red jump was the World War II war-time economic surge to support men and factories transferred from private sector to military needs - - equivalent to a total economic shift of more than 30% of the entire economy.

Now - - what happened at the end of the 1940s, right after the war? Did our leaders do the right thing? The apparent answer is YES. The chart shows that by 1947 the red government line dropped back near it's pre-war level, as said economic resource demands were transferred from government's economic share back to the private sector (blue) from whence they were 'borrowed' for war-time purposes.

By returning the private sector line to near its pre-war level the private sector, once again, had recovered its pre-war capacity to economically support future such surge requirements should they be needed at another time. The size of the post-war government cut-back was a very proper result - - protecting our future.

Now to the problem - - What happened after 1947 to preserve future war-time surge capacity? Answer: it deteriorated, remarkably so.

After 1947 this chart shows the government spending started ratcheting upward, from 22% share of the economy to today's 43% level nearly twice as high, as shown at the right edge of the chart. And, as a result, the economy remaining to the private sector dropped from a 78% share down to about 57%. This means the war-time surge potential has been reduced about 21 points since WW II.

16 posted on 02/20/2006 4:51:22 PM PST by fallujah-nuker (America needs more SAC and less empty sacs.)
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To: Paul Ross
To the extent they bother to buy our T-Bills, this will merely exacerbate the long-term balance of payments problem...because they still own the capital, and can demand it back...plus we...the taxpayers...will be milked for the interest and the return of the capital. The T-Bills are just being sold to continue the federal ponzi scheme import consumption frenzy.

" You owe the bank a thousand, the bank owns you. You owe the bank a million, you own the bank...."

If China gives us too much sh#t in the future, we leave them holding a big wad of TP.
26 posted on 02/20/2006 7:57:21 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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