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Policing Porn Is Not Part of Job Description (Homeland Security cops policing porn at library)
Washington Post ^ | 2-17-2006 | Cameron W. Barr

Posted on 02/17/2006 10:25:14 AM PST by Cagey

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To: plan2succeed.org
It's an issue way over my head.

[ TRELAINE ] You must try harder; this is too easy! [ /TRELAINE ]

When I refer to pornography, I am using a term meant to be used as a linguistic shortcut meaning essentially anything that is illegal at law

If you're going to make up your own definitions for words, you'll need to give us a full dictionary so that we can communicate with you. How about starting with your definitions of the words "alone", "sex", and "is"?

61 posted on 02/20/2006 8:25:41 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: RS
From the article:

They were officers of the security division of Montgomery County's Homeland Security Department, an unarmed force that patrols about 300 county buildings -- but is not responsible for enforcing obscenity laws.

I think we need a FR force to patrol knee-jerk reactions.
62 posted on 02/20/2006 8:31:38 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: freedumb2003

Oh, sorry, I get it now. It is quite a joke how people attempting to do the right thing -- in fact doing what no one else has done -- and in heroic fashion -- are made the butt of jokes by those trying to turn the world on its head. Also, the ALA uses the same argument for pushing porn on children -- namely that those who oppose pushing porn on children are doing so because of religious motivations. So forgive me when I hear such an argument that I don't see it initially as a joke.


63 posted on 02/20/2006 8:22:52 PM PST by plan2succeed.org (www.plan2succeed.org)
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To: steve-b
Speaking of too easy, you ask me for the meaing of certain words. Does the following quote answer your question?
"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the--if he--if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not--that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement...." Bill Clinton and the Meaning of "Is"
[ TRELAINE ] I was just playin' [ /TRELAINE ]

Speaking of The Squire of Gothos, Trelaine, the main character, and Judith Krug, of the ALA, are using the same strategy. Let me explain:


Both Trelaine and Judith Krug set up false targets for people to attack to waste their time and energy. In the case of Trelaine, his body was the false target, but Captian Kirk was smart and shot at the mirror behind which hid the machine that gave Trelaine his power. Similarly, the ALA uses the local libraries as the targets when it's Judith Krug behind the mirror.

Fortunately SCOTUS has identified the machinery behind the mirror and has said, "The interest in protecting young library users from material inappropriate for minors is legitimate, and even compelling, as all Members of the Court appear to agree." This means to me that the ALA's policy that it's age discrimination to keep children from seeing porn has just being destroyed with a clever shot by Captain Kirk and the Supremes. But this is not Star Trek. This is real life.

In real life the ALA has quickly rebuilt the mirror so that very few know what SCOTUS said in 2003, only what the ALA says over and over again, in direct contradiction of US v. ALA that they lost, and to the detriment of the children undergoing continued rapes and molestations as if CIPA and US v. ALA never existed. So when something bad happens, the local library almost invariably gets the blame, never the ALA, never Judith Krug who has been driving these policies for decades and continues to do so almost as if US v. ALA never happened. The locals may change slightly but the ALA never does -- it just keeps pushing smut on children unseen behind the mirror, except by SCOTUS that the ALA ensures is minimalized.

I cannot wait until the green energy beings appear, apologize, and pull Trelaine out of the scene so Kirk and friends can continue unmolested, as it were, and in our case remove the influence of the ALA so that children may go on unmolested in public libraries and public schools.

Until then, the devastation continues.

Consider this from PABBIS - Parents Against Bad Books in Schools:

20 February 2006

The American Library Association (ALA) Successfully Pushes Smut On Your Children
- Why Do They Do It?
- How Do They Do It?

This is not about what might happen. This is about what already has happened and will get worse.

The ALA power structure, system and methods are established. Their permanent funding through their dues on taxpayer paid public employees is established.

Their power and influence is dangerous. They have a clear agenda and most scary of all it involves America's children.

The illusion of the local community being in control of their own schools and libraries is just a good facade for the ALA to present to the public. The ALA really thinks they're in charge.... and they usually are.

The un-American ALA has taken the American constitutional right of freedom of speech and has perverted it into their right to push graphic and explicit smut on children. ALA and ALA affiliate brown boot bullies are constantly working to implement their weird social marxist agenda. What started, purportedly, as a professional union-like organization for librarians has morphed into a powerful, dangerous, leftist, extremist organization.

The ALA issues numerous, all leftist, "positions" on many matters beyond library issues. World affairs, hunger, global warming, etc. - there is nothing the ALA feels they, as a powerful librarian association, don't need to issue a position on. Their self-perceived importance is laughable but definitely sends a clear message about their arrogance and far reaching agenda. In addition to shaping your child through smut, the pompous ALA would also like to shape them to think "correctly" about many, many things.

Click Here for more information on the leftist views of the ALA.

In schools and libraries you are seeing and will continue to see increasing use of graphic and explicit books. The ALA and ALA affiliates will continue to promote the vulgarization and sexualization of children - or even better in their view - the homosexualization.

Recent activist leftist judicial decisions regarding homosexuality and the "right" of public schools to teach whatever "they want" to children is synergistic, supportive and timely to the ALA agenda. It encourages the ALA to hear that children are merely creatures of the state and that they need to be "trained" to have "correct" thoughts about homosexuality, pornography, masturbation and numerous other things. The ALA believes they know what this "correct thought" is, and knows getting schools and libraries to use smutty books will help promote their agenda.

The ALA believes "anything-goes-at-any-age" and that there is no difference between children and adults. ALA and ALA affiliates decide what books your children should read. They push smut in both public and school libraries. They decide what is read in English class. Their vision of what is best for your child doesn't include traditional classic literature. Smut filled, "culturally-diverse", easy reading books are being pushed instead.

Homosexual poet Allen Ginsberg said, "We'll get you through your children." The ALA is doing it.

So, how does the ALA push its agenda on your children? They do it through a network of like minded affiliates, distortion and propaganda, threats of legal action, intimidation and bullying of parents and citizens who don't agree with them, constant intervention in local issues, and indoctrination, intimidation and control of English teachers, school administrators and librarians. After studying this issue for over five years, PABBIS is now well aware of ALA tactics, methods and affiliates.

Future librarians and English teachers are trained to promote, select, acquire, use and defend smutty books by their college professors, who are even more leftist and social marxist than average college professors, who in turn are more leftist and social marxist than typical Americans. These "properly thinking" and "trained" students graduate, and become English teachers and librarians and ALA and National Council of Teachers of English (NCTE) members. Their salaries are almost always paid with money from taxes levied on the local community and their jobs give them near total control of all books used in schools and libraries.

While public school teachers and public and school librarians formerly acted as public servants, that is no longer the case. They have become public masters. Many of them, deluded in their self-perceived "professional" knowledge and importance, think they know what is best for all of society including you and your children. The ALA believes their idea of what is appropriate for children trumps any thoughts, ideas, values or beliefs that you might have. They have worked for years to get the power to enforce their ideology on children, parents, local communities and the public. They now have this power almost everywhere and are working hard to increase it further and to marginalize any librarians or English teachers who don't subscribe to their twisted views.

To see how the ALA and ALA Affiliate Bullies push smut on your children click here.

The ALA has the system, people and processes in place to overpower nearly all school boards, parents, or local communities that don't agree with their agenda. While more and more people have become aware of exactly what the ALA is doing and are fighting back, it is a losing battle in many schools and school districts.

Unless more parents, taxpayers and local communities wake up and fight back, the ALA will soon have absolute power in deciding what is appropriate in English class and the libraries for all America's children. Soon the ALA agenda will be 100 percent implemented in every public school and library. This news story is written as a wake up call to all. The wall fell in Europe almost 20 years ago but today in America social marxists are close to fully realizing their agenda for American children.

It boils down to this: The ALA, a leftist Non-Government Organization (NGO), is assuming total control of standards of decency and the educational agenda for about 50 million American K-12 children. In a majority of American schools, school districts, and libraries the parents and the local community are no longer in charge - the ALA and their powerful affiliates are. Their tentacles are now everywhere - even reaching down into small local school districts in conservative rural America.

To PABBIS it appears that the ALA is successfully running a huge racketeering or terrorist operation for the political indoctrination and moral corruption of children.

A very small insular group of powerful like minded leftists has control of the ALA. Just as college English and library professors are to the left of typical leftist college professors, the ALA leadership is to the left of a typical leftist ALA member. ALA leadership is a small group of very (usually aging) leftist, social marxist, pro-sexualization, pro-homosexualization, pro-atheist, pro-"multi-culturalism", pro-"world government", pro-world tax, anti (especially Christian) religion, pro-porn, America bashing, America blaming people. All, repeat all, are way to the left of middle America.

It would/should be very interesting to investigate in detail the names, demographics, contacts, associations and politics of the leadership of the ALA and ALA Affiliates. PABBIS Wonders how many children they have in K-12 schools?

The following PABBIS News stories contain additional information on the ALA:

18 July 2005
11 July 2005
14 June 2004
29 June 2003
26 June 2003
2 January 2003
18 October 2002

"If they do not go with us, it does not matter. We already have their children"

Adolf Hitler

"I am convinced that the battle for humankind's future must be waged and won in the public school classroom by teachers who correctly perceive their role as the proselytizers of a new faith: a religion of humanity that recognizes the spark of what theologians call divinity in every human being. There teachers must embody the same selfless dedication of the most rabid fundamentalist preacher, for they will be ministers of another sort, utilizing a classroom instead of a pulpit to convey humanist values in whatever subject they teach, regardless of the educational level -- preschool, daycare, or large state university. The classroom must and will become an arena of conflict between the old and the new -- the rotting corpse of Christianity, together with all its adjacent evils and misery, and the new faith of humanism, resplendent in its promise of a world in which the never-realized Christian ideal of 'love thy neighbor' will finally be achieved."

John Dunphy, "A Religion for A New Age", The Humanist magazine - Jan/Feb 1983

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64 posted on 02/20/2006 9:14:00 PM PST by plan2succeed.org (www.plan2succeed.org)
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To: plan2succeed.org

A photo has surfaced of one of the "Homeland Security" agents involved in the incident.

65 posted on 02/21/2006 6:37:51 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: plan2succeed.org
The "Homeland Security" characters are assigned to different jobs

What kind of jobs does the county have that do not involve a risk that they will ruin expensive equipment or otherwise case additional taxpayer money (over and above paying them) to be flushed down the toilet?

Someone without enough brains to distinguish a gas pedal from a brake can hardly be assinged to work in the field. Someone who's a bit uncertain which is the fax machine and which is the shredder isn't going to do well in an office environment. What's left?

66 posted on 02/21/2006 6:42:55 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: steve-b
Guards Reassigned in Library Porn Case; Two Security Guards 'Overstepped Their Authority' By Telling Patrons They Could Not View Explicit Material, by C. Benjamin Ford, 22 Feb 2006.
67 posted on 02/22/2006 6:47:36 PM PST by plan2succeed.org (www.plan2succeed.org)
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To: albertp; Allosaurs_r_us; Abram; AlexandriaDuke; Americanwolf; Annie03; Baby Bear; bassmaner; ...
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here
68 posted on 03/02/2006 10:55:31 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Wolfie
At least they weren't Feds. Although it wouldn't have surprised me if they were.

May as well have been, they were paid with Fed (OUR) money. Blackbird.

69 posted on 03/03/2006 2:40:30 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Diapers, like Politicians, need regular changing for the same reason!)
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To: joesnuffy

"Aww it's not like former Stasi General Markus Wolf is running Homieland Security or anything y'all...or even John Magaw (Waco-Ruby Ridge)"

Next thing you know they'll be hiring ex-KGB generals as advisors for Homerland Security.


72 posted on 03/08/2006 8:02:35 PM PST by dljordan
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