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UPDATE 3-US Democrats plan bill to block Dubai port deal
Reuters ^ | 2/17/06 | Jeremy Pelofsky and Caroline Drees

Posted on 02/17/2006 5:46:27 PM PST by Dane

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To: Howlin
I agree that Hillary or Schumer may not actually care about this issue but at least they are willing to move on it (even if it is for pure political gain). Most Republicans will do nothing about the border and true homeland security even though the voters are clamoring for it and it would be a winning issue. I think it's easy to see that even Hillary and Chuckie could see this was a winner... why a Republican couldn't is beyond me!

Too many people fear Hillary. She doesn't have a prayer of winning. I know the media is on board but nobody with unfavorables that high is gonna win nationally. Her sponsorship of this bill won't turn a tide or give her access to any more votes. She won't even win the primary with the machine behind her.
21 posted on 02/17/2006 8:59:46 PM PST by Minus_The_Bear
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To: laconic

You have no problem with an easily infiltratable Arabian company handling a national security service? Holy moly.

Just because Demos are sponsoring this initiative doesn't mean it's not right. I

I'm appalled that our leaders aren't doing this, but I'm glad SOMEONE IS doing it. I support correct ACTIONS, not labels.


22 posted on 02/17/2006 9:00:55 PM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: Dane
Two U.S. senators, citing national security concerns, said on Friday they would try to block a company backed by the United Arab Emirates government from acquiring a British firm that runs several U.S. ports.

Right, national security concerns...that must have been on page 18 of their 20 page, single spaced list of reasons to oppose the Bush administration.

23 posted on 02/17/2006 9:34:29 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: Dane
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said she supported the U.S. government decision to approve the deal and that the administration may need to better explain its reasons to Congress.

This grossly understates the poor communication tactics of the Bush administration. Tell me, folks, what are the top three reasons this is being done? bet you can't name one off the top of your head, because there have been none stated...none.

Maybe there's a good reason to award this contract to the country that spawned 9/11, but I can't think of one and I read all the news I possibly can. I think Rice's statement is outright arrogant in its complete disregard for the need to inform the American People.

24 posted on 02/18/2006 4:00:17 AM PST by Rudder
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To: Rudder

Payback for some terrorism intelligence or gain from Dubai. We're getting the raw end of that deal - the payment is too high for the services rendered.


25 posted on 02/18/2006 4:23:34 AM PST by gotribe (Hillary: Accessory to Rape)
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To: diverteach
Hitlary will NEVER, I say again, NEVER be able to get my vote.

I don't know. I mean, if Satan himself came foward and won the Republican nomination, I just might pull the lever for Hill...........nah, I'd just stay home and reload ammo.

26 posted on 02/18/2006 4:31:00 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Progressives do not want progress....they want power.)
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To: Rudder
Maybe there's a good reason to award this contract to the country that spawned 9/11,

That is where you are misinformed. The Bush administration didn't "award" anything. There was an old fashioned bidding war between UAE(DPWorld) and a Singapore port company for P&O and DPWorld won and takes over P&O's existing contracts at the US ports.

UBAI/LONDON: Gulf-state backed Dubai Ports World declared victory in a $6.8 billion bidding war for UK ports group P&O after Singaporean rival port operator PSA International withdrew from the field on Friday. Dubai Ports said it was confident P&O shareholders would back its 3.9 billion pound ($6.8 billion) bid at a meeting next week, giving it control of P&O ports on six continents and creating the world's third-largest ports group.

Now you may not like it that DPWorld won the bidding and you can debate that, but the talking points that the Bush administration was behind this is untrue.

27 posted on 02/18/2006 5:44:19 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
...that the Bush administration was behind this is untrue.

Okay. But why this? "Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said she supported the U.S. government decision to approve the deal..."

28 posted on 02/18/2006 6:03:39 AM PST by Rudder
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To: Dane
Oddly enough, I agree with them. Its a shame Republicans haven't stepped up to the plate to block this misguided deal. Our country's sovereignty should never be up for sale. Its that simple.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

29 posted on 02/18/2006 6:07:00 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Rudder
Okay. But why this? "Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said she supported the U.S. government decision to approve the deal..."

Because on it's face the acquisition of P&O by DPWorld is perfectly legal and DPWorld has met all of the regulatory hurdles. The same would have probably been said if the Singapore company had won the bidding for P&O.

30 posted on 02/18/2006 6:10:52 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: goldstategop
Oddly enough, I agree with them. Its a shame Republicans haven't stepped up to the plate to block this misguided deal. Our country's sovereignty should never be up for sale. Its that simple.

Then where was your, hillary's, schumer's, and savage's outrage when a British(foreign) company was operting port terminals. Would you be just as outraged if the Singapore company had won the bidding.

BTW, if you want to direct your anger, why don't you direct it at the P&O shareholders, they are the ones who started all this.

Also check this thread at about reply #300 a person who has much experience working in port terminals, says this whole thing is basically overblown.

Savage interviewing Chuckie Schumer!

31 posted on 02/18/2006 6:16:50 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane

"Sens. Robert Menendez of New Jersey and Hillary Clinton of New York, both Democrats, said they would offer legislation to ban companies owned or controlled by foreign governments from acquiring U.S. port operations, targeting the $6.8 billion purchase of P&O (PO.L: Quote, Profile, Research) by Dubai Ports World."




Good for them since no Republicans had the guts to do it.


32 posted on 02/18/2006 6:26:06 AM PST by sangrila
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To: sangrila
Good for them since no Republicans had the guts to do it.

Would you like to buy a bridge to Brooklyn? JMO, you fit the marketing profile of such a buyer.

33 posted on 02/18/2006 6:30:00 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane

"Would you like to buy a bridge to Brooklyn? JMO, you fit the marketing profile of such a buyer."



What does this mean? I don't think your joke translated well from Arabic into English.

Hey maybe would she hire Ayman Al Zawahiri to replace Porter Goss, Hamas can be our air marshals, Zarqawi can lead Bush's Secret Service detail, and we can release Noriega from jail to head up the DEA.


Why are you so offended that people don't want our ports to be protected by a nation that officially recognized the Taliban?


34 posted on 02/18/2006 6:37:40 AM PST by sangrila
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To: sangrila
Hey maybe would she hire Ayman Al Zawahiri to replace Porter Goss, Hamas can be our air marshals, Zarqawi can lead Bush's Secret Service detail, and we can release Noriega from jail to head up the DEA.

That ain't gonna happen, but you gotta hand it to hillary and chackie schumer, they know that some will respond to ignorant hyperbole.

The UAE ain't taking over the ports and you know that.

35 posted on 02/18/2006 6:47:03 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: sangrila
Why are you so offended that people don't want our ports to be protected by a nation that officially recognized the Taliban?

As has been stated many times on these threads, they ain't taking over the ports, and also did the UAE come out against the taliban being overthrown, no they didn't.

I'm offended by people taking hillary/schumer's hyperbole hook, line, and sinker.

36 posted on 02/18/2006 6:50:06 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane

Actually I've been saying this was a terrible idea long before I heard Clinton or Schumer mentioned it. And they will be conducting port security, which means they will be responsible for keeping WMD out of our country. The money for 9/11 came through Dubai. The Washinton Times seems to agree with Clinton and Schumer also. A lot of Republicans in Congress are also against the deal.


The conservative Washington Times offered even blunter criticism of the deal.

"Do we really want our major ports in the hands of an Arab country where Al-Qaeda recruits, travels and wires money?" The Washington Times asked in an editorial.

"We should be improving port security in an age of terrorism, not outsourcing decisions to the highest bidder," the editorial said. "President Bush should overrule the committee to reject this deal. If that doesn't happen, Congress should take action."

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_world_business/view/193635/1/.html


37 posted on 02/18/2006 7:15:48 AM PST by sangrila
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To: gotribe
Any amount of control of our ports by a muslim nation is a concern to me.

I agree. This should not be happening.

38 posted on 02/18/2006 7:39:10 AM PST by twigs
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To: Dane
Then where was your, hillary's, schumer's, and savage's outrage when a British(foreign) company was operting port terminals.

You keep trying to make this idiotic point. Let me ask YOU.... when was the last time the Brits tried killing any of us? 1812? When was the last time arabs tried?

39 posted on 02/18/2006 7:54:04 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
You keep trying to make this idiotic point. Let me ask YOU.... when was the last time the Brits tried killing any of us? 1812? When was the last time arabs tried?

Huh, I thought you said before on another thread, my replies were not worth your time.

Well anyway, the points have been made on this thread, the UAE is not taking over the US ports, and that some on FR are very suceptible to hillary/schumer/michael savage hyperbole.

40 posted on 02/18/2006 8:16:42 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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