Posted on 02/19/2006 12:05:30 PM PST by PatrickHenry
I added the links, and a tad of bold, underlining, etc. Everyone be nice.
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Who in the Hell do these judges think they are? Do they have expertise on school curriculum? How did we get to this place? Get the judges out of education.
Get the judges out of education.
Then keep the creationists out of science classes.
"Then keep the creationists out of science classes".
You're wrong. That's a local decision. It should be made by the local school board. That's why they were elected. It's called democracy. It may be a good or bad decision but it's their decision not some judge's.
Actually, any idea that needs the help of the judiciary to stay current, has got a fundamental problem.
And just as I was reading that Judge's decision I recalled I hadn't gotten this month's Discover. Surprisingly, or maybe not surprisingly, it had an article on MIMIVIRUS, which has more genes in it than many bacteria, and is very complex.
This piece is worth reading by everyone.
Although it doesn't "dethrone" evolution, I don't think the authors of the piece quite understood that it's possible "evolution" takes place much more like the installation of a fuel injection system in a '57 Chevy than in small, incremental steps, all of which involve mutation. At this moment the world's oceans are filled with millions of different viruses, with different genes. Our cells are also filled with tens of thousands of different viral bodies right in our genome. Our own genes are of the same class and kind as viral genes, and our chromosomes even take the same shape as virus chromosomes.
Are viruses continuing to insert themselves into our genome, and what purposes are all those dormant genes in the viruses filling the ocean fulfilling?
And are those viruses just the happenstance creations of bacterial infections, or were they dispatched in gross shipments from vast distances across the Cosmos?
They are duly appointed Constitutional officers whose job it is to resolve disputes brought before them. I suggest you read the opinion. I provided a link in post #1.
Do they have expertise on school curriculum?
More, apparently, than the lying bozos on the Dover school board. Again, I invite you to read the opinion.
How did we get to this place?
The Constitution was ratified. And then the First Amendment.
Get the judges out of education.
As long as we have government-run schools (which don't thrill me), and a First Amendment, and clowns who disregard it, I'm afraid you won't get your wish.
You're wrong. That's a local decision. It should be made by the local school board. That's why they were elected. It's called democracy. It may be a good or bad decision but it's their decision not some judge's.
Creationism is a specific religious belief. As such, it is unconstitutional to teach it in a publicly funded school, much less in a science class.
Do you think it would be okay in a district where Muslims are in the majority, and who elect a Muslim dominated school board, to teach Islamic beliefs in science classes in the public schools, and to force non-muslim children to have to take the classes?
Evolution and creation are equally untestable.
It's still wrong and anti-democratic. I know little or nothing about "creationism" or for that matter "evolution". I do know the framers did not build the judiciary for this. This is more power grabbing by a judge, it needs to stop.
Evolution and creation are equally untestable.
Unsubstantiated assertion.
"Well, in the beginning the earth cooled. And then the dinosaurs came, but they all got too big and fat, and so they died and turned into oil..."
You cannot go back in history and recreate the original conditions - and no one has been able to do so. Evolution has NEVER been reproduced, and it is not subject to the Scientific Method. It is impossible.
You cannot go back in history and recreate the original conditions - and no one has been able to do so. Evolution has NEVER been reproduced, and it is not subject to the Scientific Method. It is impossible.
Logic wenables people to infer things they cannot personally observe from other things. Scientists use it. I'd guess you do too.
And those things infer other things and so on. When many of the things inferred are found to be true, it supports the validity of the original inference.
Also, you need to read up on the Scientific Method. Your understanding of it must be in error.
Nice Airplane II reference! (...and then the Arabs came, and they bought Mercedes Benzes...)
In the first place, God made idiots. That was for practice. Then he made school boards. -- Mark Twain
I guess astronomy, archeology, geology, meteorology, anthropology, forensics, and astrophysics are all out the window too then, since the original conditions that produce practically ALL the phenomena studied in these fields can't be reproduced...
LOL. I'll have to remember that one.
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