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To: EBH
The first problem with the west is we designated it a religion, when it is actually a form of government called a Theocracy. If we had called a theocratic regime from the start, IMHO the battle would have been much further along and the enemy clearly identified. Right now we're playing catchup with a government masquerading as a religion. We are in a very dangerous position as we begin to turn on this dime, the sects that have infiltrated our free world will come out of the woodwork and into the light of day.

I think this is correct. If Islam is strictly a religion, then banning it would be tantamount to wiping our arses with the Constitution. However, these theocrats will do the wiping for us if we allow it.

The cartoon controversy shows that much (maybe most) of the islamic world simply will not be content to co-exist with the west. They are always going to be trying to overwhelm the west, and as long as they are allowed to freely immigrate, they will not be stopped.

41 posted on 02/20/2006 8:08:25 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Meadows Place, TX-"Tom DeLay Country")
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To: Sans-Culotte
Agreed, one needs to come to terms with a foreign concept. I call it foreign as most Americans are having a very difficult time of separating the religion from the government that is Islam.

We have been taught that there is a separation between church and state, so ingrained is that philosophy that some cannot grasp the idea of a Theocracy in modern times. Back in 2001, as things began to unfold after 9/11, the thought crossed my mind and has remained foremost in my mind. How can the USA go to war with a religion?

How can a country like the USA, Freedom of Religion, attack a religion in clear conscious. We can't. In our heart & mind & history...it is not what the USA represents. President Bush keeps telling us we are not at war with muslims, but with islamic extremists...islam is a religion of peace... etc. Everyday as gruesome pictures feed out of the ME, I question this peace islam is to bring.

Regimes in the ME, like Iran, are indeed Theocracies. They don't have separation of church/state. The church is the state. Can we ban islam in the USA?

Sure we can if their intent is to create a theocracy. Our founding fathers, pilgrims and countless others have come to our land to free themselves of theocracy. We ousted the Church of England as the law of the land, we will not, nor cannot allow islam to infringe on our fundamental freedom of religion.
132 posted on 02/20/2006 8:39:48 AM PST by EBH (Islam is not a religion, it is a Theocracy. The sooner ya'll understand that the better.)
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To: Sans-Culotte
The cartoon controversy shows that much (maybe most) of the islamic world simply will not be content to co-exist with the west. They are always going to be trying to overwhelm the west, and as long as they are allowed to freely immigrate, they will not be stopped.

There are 1.5 billion muslims on the face of the earth. If only 1 percent are radical Islamists, we have 150 million enemies of Western culture. Some Islamic experts claim the radical element is more like 70 percent. No matter which figure you believe, there is an endless game of "whack the mole" ahead for Western civilization.

759 posted on 02/20/2006 6:02:56 PM PST by Myrddin
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