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To: THEUPMAN
If you ask me to give up that right as part of a contractual agreement for employment , your crossing a line.

Perhaps. But so long as that agreement is voluntary, that is, so long as you are free to reject that requirement and seek employment elsewhere, then your rights have not been violated.

Look at another example: You have the God-given right of liberty; to go where you will. However, during your working hours, your employer can certainly require you to stay at the work place. Nobody cries "foul" because an employer won't let you go hiking in the woods for a few hours every day and keep your job. This is not a violation of an employee's rights, but rather a reasonable requirement of employment.

A door-to-door salesman has the right to sell his product. But I have the right, as a property owner, to deny that salesman access to my home. I haven't violated his rights, but restricted him from exercising those rights on my property. Similarly, a company has the right, as property owner, to limit who and what may come onto that property.

Citizens have the right to protest and demonstrate to express their opinion. But I don't have to allow a picketer onto my front lawn so he can exercise that right. Neither must a business owner allow picketers to march in the lobby of their building. Is this a violation of those protesters' freedom of speech?

56 posted on 02/22/2006 7:00:09 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: TChris
Although your points verge on logical ,Lets simplify it just a bit more can I require that you give up the right to defend yourself with your hands if you are attacked if you work for me?

Can I require that you sign a lifelong contract of servitude in order to keep a job?

An inalienable right is not something that can be given or taken ... just exercised or oppressed.

By your logic, the government could outlaw firearms by passing a law or amending the constitution.

Our founders recognized the difference between rights and privileges.
Rights are just that ... or else they are not rights.
Rights come at birth , by birth ... not at the pleasure of men. Those who would seek to deprive men of their rights are no friend to freedom.
57 posted on 02/22/2006 9:46:52 AM PST by THEUPMAN
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