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To: 1L
Blinding ignorance in placed if reason and logic---gotta love it. , many users with problems, some of which (e.g. kernel panics) are unheard of on PCs.

Actually fairly common on windows PCs.... just not known by the same name. Ever seen the "Blue Screen of Death"? Those unrecoverable errors that Windows is known for? That is the Windows equivalent of a Kernal panic. And in my experience - I have seen such problems FAR more in Windows machines (from 98 XP SP2). I have seen a Kernal Panic exactly twice in my experience with OSX - One was with a piece of software (actually a game) that the developer acknowleded was their own coding error. The other was from a defective stick of RAM.

58 posted on 02/22/2006 1:43:00 PM PST by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan and a Cancer on Society)
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To: TheBattman
I have seen a Kernal Panic exactly twice in my experience with OSX - One was with a piece of software (actually a game) that the developer acknowleded was their own coding error.

Errr, not to discount your report too much here, but userland software should never cause a kernel panic. There are plenty of ways to cause one, accidentally or intentionally, but the only way a *game* could cause one is if there's a hole in the OS, no matter how bad their coding is.

59 posted on 02/22/2006 2:05:49 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: TheBattman

>>Blinding ignorance<<

Look in the mirror, especially with statements like: " Actually fairly common on windows PCs.... just not known by the same name. Ever seen the "Blue Screen of Death"?"

First of all, this is not really a kernel panic, though I will conceed by a loose definition, its similar. Kernel panics have historically been used with regards to a Unix OS (and flavors/derivatives such as OSX), though I have heard the term associated with other OSs. I don't think that's accurate, but I'm not 100% sure. Second, that its "fairly common" as you suggest is untrue. I've had exactly ONE in very heavy use of NT, 2000 and XP. If it happens on Windows, it is usually bad memory or other poor hardware. Occassionally, it can be based on file errors, software, device drivers, etc. Again, usually even in this situation, the culprit is a cheap component. It may have happened more often on W95 and W98; I don't know as I used 95 for a very short time and only used 98 sparingly. I don't consider those "real" operating systems. And the fact that Macs cost so much and should have quality components should make these things even more rare then they are. Apple feels its at least common enough to put up a web page about it:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106227

Your comment proves my overall point. Your assertion that this is "fairly common" is the type of disinformation too many mac folks spread around.


62 posted on 02/22/2006 3:18:06 PM PST by 1L
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