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Churchill, Hitler and Newt
Pittsburgh Live ^ | February 20, 2006 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 02/21/2006 11:44:01 AM PST by Courdeleon02

Edited on 02/21/2006 12:07:03 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: XeniaSt

Agreed. Pat's ego has taken over. He's bitter about being rejected and, like the political Left, he harbors deep suspicion of his own nation and has come to admire foreign tyrants. He even wants to fund Hamas. So why would that be? Blind hatred of Israel is my guess.


41 posted on 02/21/2006 1:01:50 PM PST by elhombrelibre
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To: Restorer; rdb3; aculeus; hellinahandcart; Billthedrill; Constitution Day; Petronski; ...
As I understand it, Pat thinks WWII was none of our business either.

Even for Pat, a gruesome performance on at least two counts:

“His victory in Iraq, like the wars of Wilson and FDR, has turned to ashes in our mouths.”

42 posted on 02/21/2006 1:05:59 PM PST by dighton
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To: Rummyfan

I think Pat has a point, Ahmedinejad doesn't have a little mustache like Adolf, so the comparison is a bit weak.


43 posted on 02/21/2006 1:06:21 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: TheDon

Not only that, but Ahmedinejad does not speak German. Hence, not to worry.


44 posted on 02/21/2006 1:09:11 PM PST by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre

Whew! I didn't know. That definitely makes the comparison false.


45 posted on 02/21/2006 1:12:18 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: TheDon

Ahmedinejad never served in WW I either.


46 posted on 02/21/2006 1:16:22 PM PST by elhombrelibre
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To: Always Right

---Of course Pat is a great admirer of Hilter who Pat refers to as "an individual of great courage, a soldier's soldier in the Great War, a political organizer of the first rank, a leader steeped in the history of Europe, who possessed oratorical powers that could awe..."----

Oh! Of course you forgot the part where he said Hitler was a "monster" and a murderer of millions.
And "true anti-Semitism-a hatred of Jews for who they are or what they believe-is a disease of the heart. Unrepented of, it corrupts the soul."


47 posted on 02/21/2006 1:24:58 PM PST by RWE
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN

Wow. That guy just went crazy hitting his own head. And then the guys around started doing it too (to cover for his insanity). Jeez. What a buncha nutcases.


48 posted on 02/21/2006 1:29:38 PM PST by farlander
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To: dighton; Restorer; rdb3; hellinahandcart; Billthedrill; Constitution Day; Petronski
As I understand it, Pat thinks WWII was none of our business either.

Pat's father was a fan of Father Coughlin.

After Pearl Harbor, FDR had a little chat with Coughlin's Cardinal, telling his Exellency that if Coughlin wasn't taken off the air (he had a weekly radio program) Coughlin would be charged with treason.

The Cardinal did the right thing.

Never forget the damage Buke did to G H W Bush with his New Hampshire campaign.

49 posted on 02/21/2006 1:29:56 PM PST by aculeus
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN

"And if we were not intimidated by a USSR with thousands of nuclear warheads targeted on us, why should Ahmadinejad cause Newt to break out in cold sweats at night?"

The Russians loved their children, and didn't want them to die. Hence, MAD worked.

Muslims strap bombs on their children and send them into pizza parlors for a few bucks from Saddam with lies about 72 virgins.


50 posted on 02/21/2006 1:54:03 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: Courdeleon02
The war drums are usually pounded by those who are the arm chair generals and those who never served in the military and never faced the bullets flying.

And you base this profundity on exactly what evidence? As one who has spent a long life in the Marines I can tell you that I have yet to run into a man in uniform that does not recognize the dire danger we face. Incredibly many Americans are busy pretending that everything is just fine.

51 posted on 02/21/2006 1:54:12 PM PST by An Old Marine (Freedom isn't Free)
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To: Courdeleon02
The significant comparison between Hitler and Ahmadinejad is, in my opinion, the ability to singlehandedly start a conflict that will embrace the entire region. In this point the comparison is valid. Ahmadinejad is not really a populist although he poses as one, and he does not lead a popular movement that may be turned to war. In those points of comparison he is unlike Hitler. In his willingness to publicly disclose his warlike intentions against a neighbor he seems very Hitlerlike indeed.

I think, though, that Buchanan and a lot of what might be termed pre-emptive Iranian war critics seem to be confusing cause with effect here. We are not comparing Ahmadinejad with Hitler because we wish for other reasons to go to war with him, we're anticipating going to war with him because he appears to be doing as Hitler did, only this time with nuclear weapons.

The real problem with the argument for isolationism in this matter is the ambiguity with which the term "direct threat" is bandied about. Buchanan seems to me to be shading the definition as far inward as he accuses his opponents of shading it outward - can Ahmadinejad rain missiles down, or invade directly, the U.S. homeland? At the moment no. That's Buchanan's end of the threat continuum. The other end is: can he cause the U.S. to undergo disagreeable economic consequences as a result of armed Iranian military action? That he can do now. If I understand his arguments correctly that is the Bush end of the continuum.

Reality lies somewhere in between, but where? This isn't just theory, we need to consider it carefully, because armed men and women may well be going into action on its basis.

52 posted on 02/21/2006 1:57:57 PM PST by Billthedrill
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53 posted on 02/21/2006 2:01:50 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: elhombrelibre
Blind hatred of Israel is my guess.

Bingo !

54 posted on 02/21/2006 2:31:55 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Trust in YHvH forever, for the LORD, YHvH is the Rock eternal. (Isaiah 26:4))
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To: Courdeleon02

"a sandbox half the size of Denmark"

It would be more accurate to call it "an oil field half the size of Denmark".


55 posted on 02/21/2006 2:36:33 PM PST by RBroadfoot
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To: RWE
"Does Godwins law apply to Buchanan's critics? Or Newt?"

Absolutely.

56 posted on 03/06/2006 2:04:32 PM PST by StAnDeliver
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To: Courdeleon02

Maybe Pat's next book will be on Father Coughlin.


57 posted on 03/06/2006 2:17:23 PM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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