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Ports of Politics (take a deep breath and read the Wall Street Journal's take on this one folks)
The Wall Street Journal ^ | February 22, 2006

Posted on 02/21/2006 11:21:25 PM PST by presidio9

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the notion that the Bush Administration is farming out port "security" to hostile Arab nations is alarmist nonsense. Dubai Ports World would be managing the commercial activities of these U.S. ports, not securing them. There's a difference. Port security falls to Coast Guard and U.S. Customs officials. "Nothing changes with respect to security under the contract," Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said yesterday. "The Coast Guard is in charge of security, not the corporation."

In a telephone interview yesterday, Kristie Clemens of U.S. Customs and Border Protection elaborated that "Customs and Border Protection has the sole responsibility for the cargo processing and cargo security, incoming and outgoing. The port authority sets the guidelines for the entire port, and port operators have to follow those guidelines."

The timing of this sudden uproar is also a tad suspicious. A bidding war for the British-owned P&O has been going on since last autumn, and the P&O board accepted Dubai's latest offer last month. The story only blew up last week, as a Florida firm that is a partner with P&O in Miami, Continental Stevedoring and Terminals Inc., filed a suit to block the purchase. Miami's mayor also sent a letter of protest to Mr. Bush. It wouldn't be the first time if certain politicians were acting here on behalf of private American commercial interests.

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As for the Democrats, we suppose this is a two-fer: They have a rare opportunity to get to the right of the GOP on national security, and they can play to their union, anti-foreign investment base as well. At a news conference in front of New York harbor, Senator Chuck Schumer said allowing the Arab company to manage ports "is a homeland security accident waiting to happen." Hillary Clinton is also along for this political ride.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bds; dubaiportsworld; iran; israel; liberaltalkingpoints; newworldorder; uae; wsj
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To: indianrightwinger
What Bush is subjected to in the msm is equal at least to the hail of criticism LBJ and Nixon had to weather every day. Well, I ain't piling on.

Two things seems certain (after reading the article): this has nothing to do with security operations; and this has nothing to do with foreigners working in our ports (particularly, unscreened Wahabbi types).

This is just another typical leftist media canard.

21 posted on 02/21/2006 11:59:40 PM PST by ARepublicanForAllReasons (A "democratic socialist" is just a communist who happens to be outgunned!)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; Constantine XIII; Once-Ler; Mr. Mojo; Terpfen; MJY1288; John Valentine

ping


22 posted on 02/22/2006 12:02:49 AM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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To: Echo Talon
And the same union workers that are working the ports now are going to be the same ones that will be working there in a few months.

So, are the new owners barred from breaking that contract? I've been following this story to some extent, and haven't seen (although I'm sure it must have been asked) an answer to that question.

23 posted on 02/22/2006 12:04:33 AM PST by garandgal
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To: Dane

Emotions are the domain of the liberals. Emotions are easy, logic and thinking are difficult and they don't like to do things that are hard.

It takes a great human being to be able to logically look at something and not have a knee jerk reaction. That is why Conservatives are the greatest of ideologies....it actually requires thinking....lol


24 posted on 02/22/2006 12:04:48 AM PST by MissouriConservative (I would love to change the world, but they won't give me the source code)
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To: presidio9

Thanks


25 posted on 02/22/2006 12:06:46 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: indianrightwinger
I trust Bush on National Security. Nobody can say he does not have National Security interests foremost in whatever decisions he makes.

Exactly right. I am in NYC every day. There are no guarantees. I'll take my chances with Bush calling the shots for me on national security over Hillary's naked grandstanding.

Did I just use the words "Hillary" and "naked" in the same sentence?

26 posted on 02/22/2006 12:08:29 AM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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To: presidio9
"That being said, wouldn't it just have been easier to make sure no arab country had anything to do with our ports in the first place?"

In a word, yes.

27 posted on 02/22/2006 12:09:03 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Small is the key!)
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To: garandgal
So, are the new owners barred from breaking that contract? I've been following this story to some extent, and haven't seen (although I'm sure it must have been asked) an answer to that question.

read this

28 posted on 02/22/2006 12:09:29 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: presidio9

"A bidding war for the British-owned P&O has been going on since last autumn, and the P&O board accepted Dubai's latest offer last month. The story only blew up last week, as a Florida firm that is a partner with P&O in Miami, Continental Stevedoring and Terminals Inc., filed a suit to block the purchase."

That is the most telling part of the article. The partners of the British firm running the port are raising a stink..and it is blown (pardon the pun) out of proportion.

I don't think that this is anything like what it is being made out to be...mainly because this is an election year and there is a lot of peacock posturing going on to raise profiles during an election by people who might not give a fiddler's da*n about security during a non-election year.


29 posted on 02/22/2006 12:11:17 AM PST by MissouriConservative (I would love to change the world, but they won't give me the source code)
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To: TAdams8591

Too late. So now we move on to "get lost raghead, your money's no good here"?


30 posted on 02/22/2006 12:11:31 AM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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To: Dane
Excuse this ignorant, emotional outburst. The ports should be controlled by american companies. If a war or national security issue emerges it can best be handled between an american company and the US government, regardless which other country may be involved.

Secondly, The government must be responsive to the mood of the country. We don't want an arab country running the port so sooin after 9-11 and during the war on terrorism when there are so many idiots running around arab countries. Bush made an idiotic decision. There's your emotional comment.

Third. The money and jobs should have been kept with an amercian comapny em0ploying americans. The government has no business awarding contracts to foreign countries.

31 posted on 02/22/2006 12:11:32 AM PST by bigsigh
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To: bigsigh

sorry I said idiots, I meant suicidal/homocidal fanatics


32 posted on 02/22/2006 12:12:51 AM PST by bigsigh
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To: bigsigh
Secondly, The government must be responsive to the mood of the country. We don't want an arab country running the port so sooin after 9-11 and during the war on terrorism when there are so many idiots running around arab countries. Bush made an idiotic decision. There's your emotional comment.

Actually, the article points out that the London Subway bombings last year were carried out by British citizens, so unless we want to create internment camps for arabs in this country, we need to accept the fact that the same such idiots can just as easily be running around here.

Third. The money and jobs should have been kept with an amercian comapny em0ploying americans. The government has no business awarding contracts to foreign countries.

That boat left a long time ago. All of the companies you think of as American have outsourced and vice-versa. It's not as if DPW were planning on bringing arab workers to New Jersey.

33 posted on 02/22/2006 12:17:09 AM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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To: bigsigh
Third. The money and jobs should have been kept with an amercian comapny em0ploying americans. The government has no business awarding contracts to foreign countries.

Problem is it was a British company that was bought by the UAE. And the Brits "had control of the ports" I take issue with that phrasing because the Coast Guard has control of the ports.

34 posted on 02/22/2006 12:17:30 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: presidio9

I can't believe even FReepers could be gamed by Schumer!


35 posted on 02/22/2006 12:18:25 AM PST by JennysCool (Do not needlessly endanger your lives until I give you the signal. - Ike)
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To: JennysCool

Believe it.


36 posted on 02/22/2006 12:20:34 AM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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To: bigsigh
Third. The money and jobs should have been kept with an amercian comapny em0ploying americans. The government has no business awarding contracts to foreign countries

And how are you going to achieve this? Twitch your nose and voila a new huge American shipping company.

Or do you want a govt. takeover where union goons can gorge on more graft.

Face it, it ain't a perfect world and maybe one way to get more American companies is to get rid of the onerous taxes and regulations, but that will take time, but at the moment we have a world economy and goods American consumers desire and demand have to be loaded off ships and you can't bring the economy to a halt just to make sure that the companies pass a nationality purity test, what you can do is add security features, which I believe theis administartion has.

An administration that has killed more islamofascists than any other administration combined.

37 posted on 02/22/2006 12:20:45 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: presidio9

BTTT


38 posted on 02/22/2006 12:22:28 AM PST by nopardons
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To: rolling_stone
Or speaks Arabic. There, I feel much better now.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

39 posted on 02/22/2006 12:23:35 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: JennysCool
What are they afraid the terrorist are gonna do get ahold of a crane and drop a load of ipods in the ocean? OH THE HUMANITY!

reminds me of the Patriot Act and their "hide the judge" scheme. This time its "hide The Coast Guard, Homeland Security and US Customs"

40 posted on 02/22/2006 12:25:01 AM PST by Echo Talon
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