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To: SolidSupplySide

You're wasting your time. This anti-DeLay loser, "maui_hawaii", is not about to come out on positive DeLay news.


7 posted on 02/23/2006 4:45:54 PM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: harpu
Well, here I am...

I won't post anything different than I haven't previously posted at one time or another...

There are two basic thoughts on Tom DeLay from two different camps.

1. He is a saint who has done nothing wrong, ever. The Democrats hate him and thats all there is to it. Anything wrong is just Democrats, as thought the R behind someone's name made them a saint already.

2. The other side of conservatives don't see it quite that way.

He isn't angelic, just like almost anyone in DC. In his case, he takes too much money from special interests primarily because he's been a fixture for so long.

While, yeah he's Republican etc etc... he has also vaulted himself to represent the party itself. He has to hold himself to higher standards if he's gonna do that. Which, in my opinion, he didn't do.

He is giving the vast middle America reason to dislike Republicans. He has so far, and can continue to drum up support--for Democrats. Thats not because he's a Republican, nor because he's 'effective'...its because there is blood in the water and the sharks are out and he started all that of his free will. He messed up and its no one else's fault but his own.

The difference between group one and group two though isn't politics or political leanings. Its that group one its hunting for a partisan fight to defend their holy grail, which in this case isn't an ideal, its a person.

Group two though believes the party is bigger than any one politician and we need to keep it as such.

It just depends on how you represent conservatism.

With that being said, DeLay, no matter how you look at it is nearing the end of his carreer. Maybe he'll end up being the Strom Thurmond of the House, but I doubt it. I believe the party as a whole needs to put that stuff to bed and move beyond it, primarily so we can move forward. Right now its a distraction.

I believe someone new needs to go in because they will give new life to things. Its time for a changing of the guard basically.

Call me a DeLay basher if you will...so be it.

If anything that I am truly complaining about DeLay about is that he comes across as a jerk that thinks he's too big to be touched. His head is too big and I don't like it. If there is one thing I am 'bashing' him about, thats it. The rest of the stuff mentioned above isn't bashing Tom DeLay.

26 posted on 02/23/2006 7:50:52 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: harpu
National elections are not won on the fringes, they are won in the trenches...inch by inch.

As much as we would all like to see a major shift to the right, all RIGHT NOW, its not going to happen. Bit by bit, inch by inch is the way to conquer. We have to win the hearts and minds.

The condescending stuff some republicans throw out doesn't do much of anything but piss people off. DeLay is using an old tactic, but now we have a chance to galvanize a Republican majority we have to do things differently.

29 posted on 02/23/2006 8:07:00 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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