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Man indicted for showing how to make firebomb
Reuters) ^ | Fri Feb 24, 11:19 AM ET | Marty Graham

Posted on 02/24/2006 9:40:02 PM PST by BenLurkin

SAN DIEGO (Reuters) - A radical environmental activist has been indicted by a federal grand jury for demonstrating how to build a firebomb in a speech just 15 hours after a fire that his group claimed responsibility for destroyed a large apartment complex being built nearby.

Rodney Adam Coronado, a 39-year-old member of the Earth Liberation Front, was indicted on a charge of giving instructions on how to build a destructive device, which carries a maximum sentence of 20 years in federal prison. The indictment was unsealed on Wednesday.

The law under which he was charged has been used just four other times since it was enacted in 1997, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney Shane Harrigan. The law makes it illegal to tell others how to build destructive devices with the intent of having them commit crimes.

"In the speech, Coronado mentioned the fire that had just occurred," Harrigan said. "We have to prove his intent was to have others go out and commit arson."

No one has been charged in the August 1, 2003, early morning fire that did about $50 million in damage to the complex being built in University Town Center, a high technology and business center near the University of California San Diego.

Authorities say the case is still under investigation.

The Earth Liberation Front took responsibility for the fire, leaving a banner at the site and sending an e-mail to a local newspaper.

Coronado has told reporters he showed people how to build a firebomb, which he used to destroy an animal testing facility in Michigan in 1992. He served four years in prison for that arson.

He is in federal custody in Tucson, Arizona, awaiting sentencing after being convicted of going into a public recreation area to disrupt efforts to trap and move mountain lions there.

Three people who attended Coronado's speech were jailed for refusing to testify before the grand jury about the content of the speech. All have been released.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: alf; dangerouskooks; ecoterror; elf; enviroterrorists; firebomb; ratcrime; ratviolence; toomanylaws

1 posted on 02/24/2006 9:40:03 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

That is one angle, but who doesn't know how to make at least a
Molotov cocktail or something simple like that.


2 posted on 02/24/2006 9:43:30 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: BenLurkin
Another Green Snake Found In Paradise. Film at 11.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

3 posted on 02/24/2006 9:44:10 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: BenLurkin

I understand his video can be found here--

http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=oXnyDV244Zo


4 posted on 02/24/2006 9:44:38 PM PST by bildabare
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To: BenLurkin
its a wonder other countries are willing to do business with us when we have terrorist like this running around...
5 posted on 02/24/2006 9:44:49 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Anti-Bubba182

A Molotov or a self lighting one? Gasoline, sugar, pemanganate and....


6 posted on 02/24/2006 9:45:28 PM PST by null and void (Imagine what they would be doing if it wasn't a religion of peace!!!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
I'm amazed that there's a law like that. kind scary actually to think someone could be arrested just for discussing the application in theory of such things.
7 posted on 02/24/2006 9:45:32 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: BenLurkin

Is it really that hard to start a fire? The brilliance is that the developer will rebuild the burned structure using twice as much natural resources as would otherwise have been needed. The fire will give off toxic greenhouse gases resulting in catostrophic global warming. Construction workers will commute twice as much to and from the job site burning ever more fossil fuels. Another classic example of the liberal mindset accomplishing the exact opposite of the intended result.


8 posted on 02/24/2006 9:47:38 PM PST by willyd
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To: All

On The Net...

TKG.org - Group Profile: "EARTH LIBERATION FRONT"
http://www.tkb.org/Group.jsp?groupID=41


9 posted on 02/24/2006 9:51:52 PM PST by Cindy
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To: All

Related link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1584573/posts


"Feds arrest environment radical over S.D. speech"
San Diego Union Tribune ^ | February 23, 2006 | Onell R. Soto

Posted on 02/23/2006 9:29:35 PM PST by DogByte6RER

"Feds arrest environment radical over S.D. speech"

By Onell R. Soto UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

February 23, 2006

ARTICLE SNIPPET: "He said he was explaining how easy it is to make an incendiary device from something as common as a plastic juice bottle.

“We are simple people,” he said. “We are an organization using simple tools.”

Coronado said he speaks for both ELF and a related organization, the Animal Liberation Front.

“As a spokesperson, I consider it within my rights to explain not only their purpose but also their mode of operation,” he said."


10 posted on 02/24/2006 9:55:53 PM PST by Cindy
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To: BenLurkin
"...to think someone could be arrested just for discussing the application in theory of such things."

It could come to that if they want to gin up some intent and prosecute. Stuff like this is all over the net, libraries, personal encyclopdeias etc.

Molotov cocktail

The only way a law like this is workable is if they have a firebrand like in the article advocating the use of such a device as well.

I wonder if he gets convicted?

11 posted on 02/24/2006 9:56:10 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: BenLurkin
They profiled this guy on Penn & Teller's Bullsh*t in their PETA episode.

Apparently PETA has paid him in the past.
12 posted on 02/24/2006 9:59:30 PM PST by Madison Moose (Greetings From the People's Republic of Madison)
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To: BenLurkin
No one has been charged in the August 1, 2003, early morning fire that did about $50 million in damage to the complex being built...Authorities say the case is still under investigation.

Don't we have a terrific criminal justice system? Going on 1 1/2 years and still no charges filed. I sense a lot of "foot dragging"...that's self-induced inertia...in the system.

13 posted on 02/24/2006 10:01:24 PM PST by kimosabe31
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To: BenLurkin

Living in San Diego I know what he did and people like him.
Over 50 million dollars in damage to a complex going up
isn't a joke.
also torching suvs and other cars at car agencies is no joke.


14 posted on 02/24/2006 10:02:34 PM PST by SoCalPol (Hillary kvetching is like Jack the Ripper moralizing to my neuro surgeon)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
I wonder if he gets convicted?

Yeah, it's all over the web on how to make incendiary devices. Sounds like a weak case against him.

15 posted on 02/24/2006 10:10:10 PM PST by demlosers (Kerry: "Impeach Bush, filibuster Alito, withdraw from Iraq, send U235 to Iran, elect me President!")
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To: BenLurkin
"BenLurkin: I'm amazed that there's a law like that. "

"FROM STORY: The law makes it illegal to tell others how to build destructive devices with the intent of having them commit crimes."

Actually from a practical standpoint it sounds like it would be pretty hard to get a conviction short of a "now go forth and bomb stuff" videotape.

Anyone know how the other 4 times it was used turned out?
16 posted on 02/24/2006 10:10:33 PM PST by ndt
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To: bildabare

Stop spamming threads with that video link.

Don't spam threads.


17 posted on 02/24/2006 10:22:44 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

I smell ozone...


18 posted on 02/24/2006 10:28:35 PM PST by endthematrix (None dare call it ISLAMOFACISM!)
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To: BenLurkin

On June 19, 1997, the Senate voted 94 to 0 to approve the Feinstein Amendment to S.936, the National Defense Authorization for 1998 Bill. The amendment prohibits the teaching of bombmaking for criminal purposes.

DISTRIBUTION OF INFORMATION RELATING TO EXPLOSIVES, DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES, AND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION

PROHIBITION. -- It shall be unlawful for any person --

(A) to teach or demonstrate the making or use of an explosive, a destructive device, or a weapon of mass destruction, or to distribute by any means information pertaining to, in whole or in part, the manufacture or use of an explosive, destructive device, or weapon of mass destruction, with the intention that the teaching, demonstration, or information be used for, or in furtherance of, an activity that constitutes a Federal criminal offense or a State or local criminal offense affecting interstate commerce; or

(B) to teach or demonstrate to any person the making or use of an explosive, a destructive device, or a weapon of mass destruction, or to distribute to any person, by any means, information pertaining to, in whole or in part, the manufacture or use of an explosive, destructive device, or weapon of mass destruction, knowing that such person intends to use the teaching, demonstration, or information for, or in furtherance of, an activity that constitutes a Federal criminal offense or a State or local criminal offense affecting interstate commerce.".

http://cryptome.org/fein-sp419.htm


19 posted on 02/24/2006 10:32:15 PM PST by endthematrix (None dare call it ISLAMOFACISM!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Rather weird here. Oh, not that the envirowhacko was convicted, he and his cronies should be jailed en masse at all events.

What's weird is that absolutely anyone with a bit of experience in practical chemistry can use very ordinary household chemicals, and/or chemicals commonly kept in a high school chemistry course, to make lots and lots of things go 'boom' or catch fire.

Naturally, only some tiny fraction of people who've taken any chemistry course actually do go out and do this, but, if you consider the matter, this sort of action is just the same as homicide, arson, or both. The only difference is the weapon used.

20 posted on 02/24/2006 10:33:31 PM PST by SAJ
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To: SAJ

Wups. My apologies. ''Indicted'', not convicted. Roughly 70% chance of conviction (DAs don't like bad odds, right?)


21 posted on 02/24/2006 10:34:32 PM PST by SAJ
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To: ndt
Text of the law

(a) Section 842 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the

end the following new section:

"(1) It shall be unlawful for any person to teach or demonstrate the making of

explosive materials, or to disseminate by any means information pertatining to,

in whole or in part, the manufacture of explosive materials, if the person

intends, knows, or reasonably should know that such explosive materials or

information is likely to be use for, or in furtherance of, a federal offense or

other criminal purpose affecting interstate commerce."

(b) Section 844 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by designating section (a) as subsection (a)(1) and by adding the following new subsection:

"(a)(2) Any person who violates subsection (1) of section 842 of this chapter

shall be fined under this title or imprisoned no more than twenty years, or both."

I don't know how the other cases turned out, but the actual text of the law is more broad than the article suggests.

22 posted on 02/24/2006 10:41:21 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: willyd
Ah, but you're not factoring in the ''greater good'' so beloved of the nihilist/statist mindset. Y'see, a little global warming is OK, as long as it helps destroy eeeevil capitalists who exploit innocent trees and such. Gaia approves of this, dontcha know...

Pardon my retching, please.

'^)

23 posted on 02/24/2006 10:41:32 PM PST by SAJ
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To: Anti-Bubba182; ndt

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/958306/posts

http://cryptome.org/usa-v-sma-aca.htm


24 posted on 02/24/2006 10:44:21 PM PST by endthematrix (None dare call it ISLAMOFACISM!)
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To: endthematrix

Thanks, it looks like he was coming on strong with advocacy along with the information.


25 posted on 02/24/2006 10:49:24 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: endthematrix; Anti-Bubba182

Thank you both, exactly what I was looking for.


26 posted on 02/24/2006 11:04:09 PM PST by ndt
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To: SoCalPol

Don't get me wrong. I understand that people who would get violent in order to save owls and trees are dangerous kooks who need to be locked up.


27 posted on 02/24/2006 11:17:54 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Like Anti-Bubba said, it is hard to believe that there are people who don't know how to make firebombs. I would never make one myself and will not explain how, as it appears you can get into trouble for that. A Google search would probably reveal many more ways than I am familiar with in any event.


28 posted on 02/24/2006 11:57:05 PM PST by KarinG1 (Some of us are trying to engage in philosophical discourse. Please don't allow us to interrupt you.)
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To: willyd
Is it really that hard to start a fire? The brilliance is that the developer will rebuild the burned structure using twice as much natural resources as would otherwise have been needed. The fire will give off toxic greenhouse gases resulting in catostrophic global warming. Construction workers will commute twice as much to and from the job site burning ever more fossil fuels. Another classic example of the liberal mindset accomplishing the exact opposite of the intended result.

That can't be true. ELF would never do something to harm the environment. I understand they are even recycling waste products from the Exxon Valdeez clean up to make their firebombs. --end sarcasm.

Seriously though, I'd be really surprised if more than a small few of the members of ELF really even care about the environment. I have a feeling for most of them, anarchy is the big draw for joining groups like this and committing the acts they do.

29 posted on 02/25/2006 12:24:37 AM PST by JavaTheHutt ( Gun Control - The difference between Lexington Green and Tienanmen Square.)
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To: BenLurkin

Based on this incident and the jailing of the historian who denied the holocaust in Europe, I think we can safely say the muslims were correct regarding free speech. There obviously is no such thing when it suits a govt.


30 posted on 02/25/2006 2:42:57 AM PST by son of caesar
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To: Echo Talon
its a wonder other countries are willing to do business with us when we have terrorist like this running around...

Single terrorist or no, I bet no sane country will let the US manage their ports.

31 posted on 02/25/2006 2:44:34 AM PST by Lazamataz (Islam is a fatal disease that must be eradicated from the body Earth.)
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To: Lazamataz

well, American CSX was managing a bunch of overseas ports 2 years ago until this UAE company bought them.


32 posted on 02/25/2006 3:00:14 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: BenLurkin
It's not just Molotov Cocktails. The Earth Liberation Front used to have a .pdf file of their manual, Setting Fires With Electrical Timers: An Earth Liberation Front Guide, May, 2001, on their web site. Their instructions were for things a lot more sophisticated than Molotov Cocktais. The manual has been removed now. Probably as a result of the changes in the law.
33 posted on 02/25/2006 3:44:43 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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