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Weekend Show *Preview* for 2/25-2/26/06 (not the live thread)
Network and Cable News | 2/25/06 | Network and Cable News Networks

Posted on 02/25/2006 6:08:56 AM PST by Phsstpok

This weekend I've added the Saturday night/Sunday morning Fox/WSJ "Journal Editorial Report" to the mix.  It looks to be a very interesting addition (on "our side," maybe?).

Last weekend I clearly missed the MSM spin on the "White House is being too secretive" meme (though I was on  the right track with the "they're being mean" idea).  When I post a meme it is simply my best guess and I'm desperately reaching out for others to correct or augment anything I post.  That's the purpose of my thread.  Not to declare "this is what is" but to ask "is this close" and beg for the rest of us to add to, fix and extend or reject (but be kind).

As has been pointed out it won't take a rocket scientist to figure out that this weekend will be primarily screaming faces about the port deal.  It looks to me that there is only one White House "friendly" voice from Congress, and that's John Warner.  Any other White House defenders are administration officials, but I think they're being set up for attacks on the "secrets and conspiracies" front.  Richard Gere is on for a gratuitous attack on Bush prior to his trip to India and I haven't got a clue why Joe Gibbs is on.

Journal Editorial Report FNC/Wall Street Journal (Paul Gigot)

Fox News Sunday (Chris Wallace)

NBC Meet The Press (Tim Russert)

CBS Face The Nation (Bob Schieffer)

ABC This Week (George Stephanopoulos)

CNN Late Edition (Wolf Blitzer)

This is NOT intended to be the live Sunday Morning Talk Show thread. I trust AB will do that as usual. This is strictly a preview of who will be on the main shows. The idea is to give folks a chance to muster their resources for that thread.

I would particularly ask that anyone with specific knowledge or resources about the topics / guests announced for these shows post them here so that the rest of us can go into the shows with a heads up on what to look for. For example... well, crap... I don't see any obvious questions for these guests (other than irrelevant Richard Gere questions about hamsters) .... Oh wait!  How long will Hadley be on either Late Edition or Face the Nation before he's asked about White House leaks?

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These are links to recent articles by or about this weeks guests that I think might give a clue as to why they have been invited on this week's shows

 

1 posted on 02/25/2006 6:08:59 AM PST by Phsstpok
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To: Bahbah; Txsleuth; MNJohnnie; eeevil conservative; Morgan in Denver; Alas Babylon!; ...
PING

The weekend talk show preview thread is posted

If you would like on or off the ping list for this thread please freepmail me 

2 posted on 02/25/2006 6:11:54 AM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Phsstpok

Incredible job. The formating, the research, the links -- very, very impressive job.

Along the theme of some conservatives thinking the president is a big spender, we will likely hear discussions about how that and the ports play into the '06 elections and how a recent Rasmussen poll reflects people trust Democrats more with security.

There is plenty of time for that to change and it will change (hopefully) provided the democrats keep sounding like they are half nuts.

I'd like to see one of the commentators ask the democrats how it is that they are opposed to our profiling Arabs in airports but it's okay to profile an entire company.


3 posted on 02/25/2006 6:27:03 AM PST by Peach
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To: Peach

Agreed, and I'm waiting for both Bill and Hillary to return the money they've been making of the UAE and Saudi's over the years.

I also see the Democrats overplaying their hand, again, and they'll be back behind the eight ball once it's all over. It's never ending. Democrats create the controversary, gin it up in the press and use that press coverage projecting it to the rest of the country as though it were fact. Then, when it's sorted out, they are back where they began, with more people realizing how dumb and sneaky they were.



4 posted on 02/25/2006 6:34:01 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: Phsstpok

Just amazing work, Phsstpok, and much appreciated. If you want to read an article posted in your research on Hadley that is chock full of junk, try this one: NSC, Cheney aides conspired to out CIA operative (uruknet.info, Italy)


5 posted on 02/25/2006 6:39:57 AM PST by Bahbah (An admitted Snow Flake and a member of Sam's Club)
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To: Peach
Incredible job. The formating, the research, the links -- very, very impressive job.

Thank you for the kind words.  It really helps me to understand my own point of view on what's going on to do this, so this is yet another case of "enlightened self interest." <g>

Along the theme of some conservatives thinking the president is a big spender, we will likely hear discussions about how that and the ports play into the '06 elections and how a recent Rasmussen poll reflects people trust Democrats more with security.

I'm betting that poll will be trotted out today, next weekend and almost every chance they get, even long after it's been proven totally wrong.  And just how often have we heard of all of the previous polls that showed the opposite?

There is plenty of time for that to change and it will change (hopefully) provided the democrats keep sounding like they are half nuts.

Half nuts? <g>

I'd like to see one of the commentators ask the democrats how it is that they are opposed to our profiling Arabs in airports but it's okay to profile an entire company.

I would love to see that, but I'll give odds that it'll never happen (except on Fox).  Now, they might ask a Republican who is likewise contradictory about profiling... 

6 posted on 02/25/2006 6:44:06 AM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Phsstpok

Thanks for the "Early Warning System" thread. I see the McBiden Express will be on tomorrow, so I will opt for Church instead.

Plugs Biden was at UT in Austin this past Thursday, blasting the Administration on national security. I guess that is his/RATs latest talking point.

He told an "inspired crowd" (not by the pictures in the paper or on the tube), that he was running for president in '08. DUH... He better watch his back, or there may be another case of Arkancide.


7 posted on 02/25/2006 6:46:31 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Change tagline as needed,)
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To: Bahbah
If you want to read an article posted in your research on Hadley that is chock full of junk, try this one: NSC, Cheney aides conspired to out CIA operative (uruknet.info, Italy)

Yeah, that one is out there.  I posted it because I'm expecting the MSM to "launder" the charges and try to give them legitimacy as part of the "criminal Bush White House" campaign.  They're just following the plan Hillary laid out when she explained the VRWC technique:

  1. evil conservatives plant stories on the internet
  2. get them picked up in right wing papers overseas
  3. get them picked up from overseas and printed in right wing tabloids in the US
  4. then get the biased right wing corporate controlled media giants to report those stories
  5. resulting in a sneak attack on good, upstanding Democrats.

It works something like this:


8 posted on 02/25/2006 6:56:45 AM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Phsstpok

I've gotten two whacko notes from Democrats this week. If anyone questions the left going off the deep end, they are not paying attention. These guys are seeing conspiracy everywhere.

First Note:
If that isn't enough, put 'US concentration camps' into your browser, and pass it around.\

Check this out: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm

Second Note (in part):

White House 'Discovers’ 250 Emails Related to Plame Leak
By Jason Leopold
t r u t h o u t | Report

Friday 24 February 2006

The White House turned over last week 250 pages of emails from Vice President Dick Cheney’s office. Senior aides had sent the emails in the spring of 2003 related to the leak of covert CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson, Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald revealed during a federal court hearing Friday.

The emails are said to be explosive, and may prove that Cheney played an active role in the effort to discredit Plame Wilson’s husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, a vocal critic of the Bush administration’s prewar Iraq intelligence, sources close to the investigation said.


9 posted on 02/25/2006 7:06:23 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: Arrowhead1952
'Plugs Biden was at UT in Austin'

And they found ricin in one of the dorms. Coincidence?

10 posted on 02/25/2006 7:07:40 AM PST by mathluv (Bushbot, Snowflake, Dittohead ---- Bring it on!!!)
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To: Morgan in Denver; governsleastgovernsbest
I also see the Democrats overplaying their hand, again

To me that's going to be the most interesting thing this weekend.  I think they already know that they've overplayed this, but they don't know where to go now.  Their loyal minions in the MSM got the first set of talking points and invited all of the "designated hitters" to push them for the shows, but then the ground started to shift under them.  Lots of very reasonable sounding voices on both the right and left started to say "wait a minute."  And that started to take hold.

The discussion on this thread about this morning's Fox & Friends may mark an attempt by the dims to adjust their arguments:

Ratner's Anti-Globalization Rant: No Foreigners Should Own Ports

So how will lil' Timmy, old Bob, boy George and the rest of the little rascals play this tomorrow?  Do they continue with the original xenophobic (and frankly racist) Pat Buchannan like attacks, shift to the more general anti-globalization theme (though that catches up Billary as bad guys) or fall back on the more reliable "this wouldn't have happened if Bush weren't so secret and criminal" campaign?

I'm leaning towards the later being the take away, though I think they'll throw some of all of them against the White House wall and see what sticks.

11 posted on 02/25/2006 7:10:51 AM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Phsstpok

This post is really one of the highlights of the FR week. Great job!


12 posted on 02/25/2006 7:14:26 AM PST by Friend of the Friendless (R-Illinois)
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To: Phsstpok

LOL.


13 posted on 02/25/2006 7:15:19 AM PST by Bahbah (An admitted Snow Flake and a member of Sam's Club)
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To: Phsstpok

Keep in mind, the Democrats want it both ways. So, they will continue to blame Bush and give the Democrats a pass on whatever mistakes they made. In other words, just like the failed intelligence concerning Iraq, the Democrats were mislead about the ports because of Bush.

Glad it was you who made the connection to Buchanan, and not me. I was thinking the same thing, Pat Buchanan protectionism, but didn't want to be the first to mention it. Hannity seemed to be catching on to that too this past week.


14 posted on 02/25/2006 7:22:19 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: Phsstpok
or fall back on the more reliable "this wouldn't have happened if Bush weren't so secret and criminal" campaign? I'm leaning towards the later being the take away

I'm leaning there with you. It is certainly the case that the approvals of these foreign investment deals is done under the radar, but there are some pretty solid reasons for this, and to top that off, it is a creation of the very bunch that is now complaining about its "secrecy." It still amazes me, however, that someone working on this was not astute enough politically to realize that putting the words Arab and ports together was at least going to create a problem of perception. The President was ill served in this as he was with the Abu Graib mess.

15 posted on 02/25/2006 7:27:15 AM PST by Bahbah (An admitted Snow Flake and a member of Sam's Club)
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To: Phsstpok

Great job again Phsstpok! Hope you are feeling well.

One other voice besides Warner that has come out for the port deal is John McCain

Fran Townsend is on FNC, with the release of the new Katrina report ('Lessons Learned'), I think they'll discuss what went wrong. I suspect that Chris will ask a few tough questions, but don't expect as much Bush-bashing as if she were on Timmy's show. Since she's from HS, I suspect she'll also discuss the port deal.

MTP: Arnold may discuss how the Chinese are running ports in CA, but depends if he gets off the 'how great I am' kick. May also touch on border security/immigration

CNN: Kay BH - saw her briefly on FNC yesterday. She didn't exactly come out against the port deal (though, IIRC she mentioned she wanted to hear/learn more about it). She was more concerned w overall port security, so I suspect that will be discussed.

Iraq: most of the hosts will be screeching about how bad things are and how Iraq is on the brink of a civil war. While there is certainly unrest there, I think the MSM is mis-characterizing it and somewhat disengenuous about a civil war.

WSJ: I would hope there would be discussion of how GOOD the economy really is, even though the word isn't getting out very well.

I agree w Peach about discussion of the Rasmussen poll and how for the 1st time folks 'trust' Dims w Nat'l Security more. Wonder if they'll bring out the other parts of the poll, such as a majority of the respondents weren't sure if foreign countries were currently running ops at our ports or thought US companies now were and that a lot of them weren't really following the issue. The fact that Dims are even showing this high is a little disturbing (though, I think that will change when more of the truth comes out). Many of us saw through them and discussed this last week and that their outcry over this issue was just to take the Nat'l Security issue out of favoring Bush.

Survey of 1,000 Adults

February 22-23, 2006

Should Dubai Ports World Be Allowed to Buy Port Operating Rights?

Yes 17%
No 64%
RasmussenReports.com

Are Port Operating Rights Currently Owned by U.S. Firm?

Yes 15%
No 39%
Not Sure 46%
RasmussenReports.com

Trust More on National Security

President Bush 41%
Democrats in Congress 43%
RasmussenReports.com

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2006/February%20Dailies/Dubai%20Ports.htm


16 posted on 02/25/2006 7:29:12 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God bless and protect our troops and their CIC.)
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To: Phsstpok

I'm not sure how this fits in but it looks to me the spin from the Democrats is going to be to shut the Port talk down now that the political damage is done to Bush. I think you will see the spin be how "Everyone knows Bush blew the Port deal" style talking points trying to make the Democrat spin lies accepted "facts" and shut out any attempt to actually get the facts out about the Democrat's Propaganda. Democrats want to shut down debate now before the facts we have been getting out bit them hard. Considering the Me Too Republicans they have picked to be on the shows, do not think there will be much defense of the truth tomorrow.


17 posted on 02/25/2006 7:31:01 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: Phsstpok

It depends on if Timmy, et al have the new DNC talking points. I agree w you that the latter will be brought out. I also think they'll be some shifting to port security in general (Kerry brought it up in the last campaign and her Shrillness was talking about it this week). Since they don't want to be seen as racist, even though they are, I think they'll shift to we need to learn more about this to make sure the American people are safe, Congress needs to exercise their oversight duties on this issue, and Bush hasn't done anything to make our ports safer, regardless of who is running them.


18 posted on 02/25/2006 7:34:55 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God bless and protect our troops and their CIC.)
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To: Seattle Conservative
Letter to Meet the Irrelevent:

Representative King,

Earlier this week you admitted your understanding of the Port Deal was wholly based on the phone calls you were receiving at your office. Given the large amount of misinformation and disinformation that the Establishment Media has been forced to backtrack on this week regarding the FACTS of the Port Deal, don't you think you owe President Bush an apology for jumping to such erroneous conclusions?

19 posted on 02/25/2006 7:39:55 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: Morgan in Denver
Those are good (if distrubing) catches.  They're totally off in their own world, aren't they?

I don't think this particular idea will make it out this weekend, but it's starting to bubble out there.

Bush Neocons: Going After Fifth Columnists (uruknet.info, Italy)

... Nonetheless, paranoids such as David Horowitz have managed to infect influential Congress critters such as Lindsey Graham, Republican from South Carolina, heir apparent of the reactionary reptile Strom Thurmond, and member of the Armed Services and Judiciary committees in the Senate. Earlier this month, during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing "on Wartime Executive Power and the National Security Agency’s Surveillance Authority," Graham, in an exchange with AG Alberto Gonzales, declared "the administration has not only the right, but the duty, in my opinion, to pursue fifth column movements" and "I stand by this president’s ability, inherent to being commander in chief, to find out about fifth column movements, and I don’t think you need a warrant to do that." ...

The same theme is covered in Bush's Mysterious 'New Programs'

I bumped into a slew of news and blog posts that are casting Stephen Hadley as a central character in some very bizarre plots. Here are some examples:

Gonzales Withholding Plame Emails (OpEdNews.com) (the site pushes the idea that the WTC collapse was a "controlled explosion")

Sources close to the investigation into the leak of covert CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson have revealed this week that Attorney General Alberto Gonzales has not turned over emails to the special prosecutor's office that may incriminate Vice President Dick Cheney, his aides, and other White House officials who allegedly played an active role in unmasking Plame Wilson's identity to reporters....

Cheney Spearheaded Effort To Discredit Wilson (CounterCurrents.org, India)

Vice President Dick Cheney and then-Deputy National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley led a campaign beginning in March 2003 to discredit former Ambassador ...

Fitzgerald Probes Niger Forgeries (CounterPunch, CA)

... to federal investigators, perjury, and obstruction of justice related to his role in the Plame leak - National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley, and Cheney had ...

Dick Cheney Is Not Above The Law (Yahoo! News)

... Stephen Hadley and White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove to determine what information the White House should leak to the press in order to gain support ...

White House e-mails missing in CIA name case (MSNBC)

According to Newsweek, Rove wrote Hadley in the e-mail that Cooper pushed him on whether President Bush was being hurt by the Niger controversy. “I didn't take the bait,” Rove wrote, adding that he told Cooper not to get “far out in front on this.” ... Why didn't the Rove e-mail surface earlier? It’s not clear. But Luskin tells NBC News that “any suggestion that what Fitzgerald is identifying has any relation to the Hadley e-mail is speculation.”

That last is an oldie but a goodie, dating back to the Libby indictment, but it sets the stage for all the rest.  That's why I think Hadley will be the subject of some direct, personal, attacks.  They'll try to get past any questions about the details of the port deal and launch directly into "when will you stop illegal leaks and illegal wiretapping and endangering our security you reckless evil martinet?"

20 posted on 02/25/2006 7:40:26 AM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Seattle Conservative

Curious what their numbers are today on this topic? You saw the shift in coverage start on Thursday when the Failed Media FINALLY quit lying about "Arabs are going to take over our ports" and actually started to make some factually correct statements about the deal. As the information comes out, those numbers are changing. Look at the change in the polling data here on Freeper. The initial Jim Rob Poll was 50-30-20 against the deal, now it is 50-30-20 FOR the deal.


21 posted on 02/25/2006 7:43:17 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: Friend of the Friendless

Thankyou, but it's only the warm up for the live discussion thread on Sunday morning that is posted by Alas Babylon!

We're like long distance runners doing our stretching exercizes before a marathon.

My problem on Sundays is that I fall so far behind the field that I'm posting what I think are witty and insightful replies to folks that are 200 or 300 posts "up thread" and have moved on to entirely different subjects or already made the points I'm making!


22 posted on 02/25/2006 7:52:38 AM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Bahbah
I disagree. Let's put the blame where it belongs. The Junk Media did a horrible job of reporting. They basically took a Democrat Election Year press release and published it without question. They then tuned out ALL correction of their errors for the 1st half of the week. It wasn't until about Thursday the FACTS actually started being reported in the Junk Journalist Coverage. Kind of hard for the WH to get in front of a story like this. That would of required clairvoyance on their part to go right from disarming the Cheney hype to preempting this story.

Conservatives might as well make peace with the reality that this is HOW the Press is going to act from now on. There is no magic bullet someone can fire to slay the Junk Journalist Monster for us There will be NO fair and balanced converge no matter what the White House does to try to preempt these attacks. People need to wake up to the reality that the Dinosaur Media is complete and actively ON the DNC's side now.

23 posted on 02/25/2006 7:54:06 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: Bahbah; Txsleuth; MNJohnnie; eeevil conservative; Morgan in Denver; Alas Babylon!; ...

I'm heading out to see my surgeon now. This should be the last visit before the surgery and we'll pick the day, either this Monday or Tuesday, or the 6th or 7th. We're leaning towards Monday the 6th or Tuesday the 7th, but I just want it to be done so I can begin the process of getting vision back in that eye.

I'm assuming I'll be back on late this afternoon.

So far I'm very impressed with what has been generated on this thread. I think I'm going to ping folks like Tony Snow and Rush to AB's thread this week as suggested reading and show prep! (it's only fair, I use them for thread prep)


24 posted on 02/25/2006 8:02:16 AM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Phsstpok

Thanks for the links. Like minds, and all that. I knew it wasn't just me getting this stuff.

Part of this is our own fault. Nature abhors a vacuum and we've allowed one to creep in as the media is splitting Republicans into neo-cons, paleo-cons, classical conservatives, etc. All this versus a united front from Democrats, which is a lie in itself.

It must be driving the left nuts to have "one" indictment (Scotter Libby), which is of questionable illegality, compared to all the Democrats who were indicted and convicted under Clinton. It kind of turns the "culture of corruption" claim on its head.


25 posted on 02/25/2006 8:22:44 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: mathluv
And they found ricin in one of the dorms. Coincidence?

Good one. Wonder if it was because he was there or for him???

26 posted on 02/25/2006 8:25:42 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Change tagline as needed,)
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To: Phsstpok

Good luck with the doctor.

Just remind him, you may be getting your eyesight fixed but he should leave your insight alone. It's doing just fine.


27 posted on 02/25/2006 8:26:05 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: MNJohnnie

Good point, though, I think the MSM will continue to spin for the Dims, whichever way they want to go. Unfortunately, I don't think as many Americans are paying attention to the facts on this issue as much as FReepers, so, while the shift in opinion of the public as a whole would be great, I'm not holding my breath for it to happen soon, especially w the Longshoremens' protests across the country.


28 posted on 02/25/2006 8:27:12 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God bless and protect our troops and their CIC.)
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To: Morgan in Denver; Phsstpok

Excellent, Morgan!! And, I totally concur!


29 posted on 02/25/2006 8:32:43 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God bless and protect our troops and their CIC.)
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To: Peach
I'd like to see one of the commentators ask the democrats how it is that they are opposed to our profiling Arabs in airports but it's okay to profile an entire company

Its easy to explain democrats obstinance. What I dont understand is the vehement opposition here on FR to the port deal. Its much ado about nothing, Im sure. Yet Im seeing the same attacks that I saw during the Miers deal. Knee jerk Bush Hatred, IMHO..

30 posted on 02/25/2006 8:34:27 AM PST by cardinal4 (The 9-11 Commission, America's National Shame)
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To: Phsstpok

TV Headsup:
Space Shuttle crew member Mike Mullane disucsses his book "Riding Rockets"
on BookTV (C-Span2) TODAY, Saturday 2-25-06 at 2:25PM EASTERN TIME:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1585226/posts


31 posted on 02/25/2006 8:40:27 AM PST by VOA
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To: cardinal4

Kind of courious to watch how this shapes up. The same people who rant and rave nonstop about being Conservative and being pissed about spending always seem to want the Govt to take over more and more of the Private Sector. Now it is Port Terminal operation they want to turn over the the Fed Govt!


32 posted on 02/25/2006 8:47:06 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: Morgan in Denver
Interesting to note how the Dinosaur Media never questions the Democrats about being too close to Moveon.org or Act Up or the Unions or whomever but they always demand "Republicans show their independence". The more you watch and learn, the more you realize the modern Dinosaur Media Journalists have more in common with Soviet Era propagandists then Edward R Murrow.
33 posted on 02/25/2006 8:52:13 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: MNJohnnie
Now it is Port Terminal operation they want to turn over the the Fed Govt!

Another example of knee jerk liberalism..

34 posted on 02/25/2006 8:55:35 AM PST by cardinal4 (The 9-11 Commission, America's National Shame)
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To: MNJohnnie

Agreed. Old Media is slow to change and they are not happy over being exposed as being liberal. They also hate losing what they have perceived as their influence over readers and being replaced so often by New Media.

All this time they have been kidding themselves into thinking they were mainstream, and they are having a hard time coming to grips with the realization they are not.


35 posted on 02/25/2006 9:09:07 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: cardinal4; MNJohnnie

This is why we need to keep reminding them of Katrina. With the exception of the military, every level of governnemnt failed in their responsibility to one degree or another.


36 posted on 02/25/2006 9:12:51 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: Morgan in Denver

There were failures, yes. However a lot of the blame for those failures was misapplied. We have had dozens of catastrophic wx events in this country, but none of them ever hit a dem/welfare/socialist/corruption mecca. If anything, Katrina highlighted at least to the true "enlightened", just how miserable a failure Dem controlled welfare ideology is. But Im afraid that despite the honest and resonable people's knowledge of Katrina, the hurricane will always be termed a Bush failure..


37 posted on 02/25/2006 9:22:56 AM PST by cardinal4 (The 9-11 Commission, America's National Shame)
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To: Phsstpok
"__(except on Fox). )

Wouldn't that be interesting - if Fox asked for - one liner question to ask on Sunday!!

A --"what do you want answered this Sunday"

Too cutsey !! I think I would like that better than the last 3-5 minutes of 'the person of the week ' or whatever it is called. Some are ok!!

38 posted on 02/25/2006 9:33:29 AM PST by malia (The Impeached x42 clinton - a Paper Tiger President! MSM - bottom feeders! What a team!!!!)
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To: Phsstpok

Impressive!

Bump for reading later.


39 posted on 02/25/2006 9:36:39 AM PST by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: Phsstpok

Sorry I didn't get here before you left....but I should be here when you get back...


40 posted on 02/25/2006 9:41:31 AM PST by Txsleuth
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To: cardinal4

I actually agree with you. The White House uses the term "lessons learned" to label what they learn from whatever they do so they will do better the next time, and the process they use to evaluate how well they did.

No operation is perfect, and I doubt anyone would argue Katrina was, but the left went overboard in trying to cover Democrat failutes by blaming FEMA and the Feds.


41 posted on 02/25/2006 9:46:16 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: Bahbah; Morgan in Denver; MNJohnnie; Phsstpok; Tony Snow

I don't know if any of you have been watching Tony on Fox this morning....but, he had on Peter King.

Now, those of us that have listened to Tony's show this week, know that Tony had done LOTS of homework on this ports deal..and even sent Griff out to the docks to speak with people out there.

He has been for the deal from the beginning, but hasn't done it just based on "trust" of the POTUS...he has interviewed Tommy Franks and others.

Well...Peter King came on and was STILL complaining that Bush didn't go to the 9/11 Commission for "permission"...and is saying there needs to be a full investigation...and when Tony said that both the President and the Dubai company had agreed to WAIT until all questions were answered...

THAT was NOT good enough for Peter...Tony looked puzzled and basically asked what he wanted, since they had already agreed to the delay??

Peter saw off into quoting stuff that UAE was supposedly doing back in the 90's..re: Bin Ladin...and that it doesn't matter if they have changed...they only have changed in order to do business with the US..

The kicker, for me, came when Tony asked Peter if he had spoken with Tommy Franks or Peter Pace....King pretty much blew them off....acting like they WEREN'T reliable sources...but the 9/11 commission ARE!!!

It was truly bizarre...and I got the feeling that King was just grasping for any excuse NOT to want to accept the offer by the Dubai company that they will do what it takes to allay Congress and American's fear.

Tony---if you read this, and had a different take about Peter King...feel free to correct me.


42 posted on 02/25/2006 9:51:56 AM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Morgan in Denver

What I find amazing about the Katrina thing is that there have days and days of Congressional hearings...

The House came out with that scathing report last week, blaming Chertoff for about 90% of it...

and then the other day, the White House came out with that report in a bound book and had a HUGH amount of people around the table with President Bush, when President Bush himself was castigating the government(s) for their failures...and how many changes need to be made...blah, blah..

BUT, then yesterday, her Hitleryness was in Florida making a campaign speech (for NEW YORK SENATOR?)...and was STILL mad because she is calling for a 9/11 type commission to "investigate" Katrina!!!!

Does that not SPELL out in capital letters that it is always, always political and NEVER to help find answers???


44 posted on 02/25/2006 9:57:03 AM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Arrowhead1952

Hi...long time no see!!!

How have the arrowhead hunts been going??


45 posted on 02/25/2006 10:00:30 AM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth

Get the impression that Pete King is running scared of the Union on this?


46 posted on 02/25/2006 10:19:20 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: Txsleuth
I got the feeling that King was just grasping for any excuse NOT to want to accept the offer by the Dubai company that they will do what it takes to allay Congress and American's fear.

Right, and since there is no apparent rational for this position, I have to ask what is the real reason. Too bad I don't know the answer. (I see Tony said you got it right :)

47 posted on 02/25/2006 10:20:50 AM PST by Bahbah (An admitted Snow Flake and a member of Sam's Club)
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To: Txsleuth
I just got back from the lake. I didn't find anything today, but did find a perfect Darl point about a month ago. It was laying in about one inch of water.

It looks similar to this and is about the same length, but the quality of the workmanship is much finer.


48 posted on 02/25/2006 10:24:10 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Change tagline as needed,)
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To: Bahbah; MNJohnnie

It seems like every thread I have read about this, has had a freeper mention Peter King's relationship with the unions...and Johnnie, you just did...

So, Bah...unless something else comes to light...I am leaning towards thinking his attitude might be linked to them, and of course, it is NOT something he is going to talk about on TV..

It is much "safer" to blame President Bush, unfortunately.

Did either of you just see the Col. somebody that Tony just had on?? He laughed about how Peter King said that a 98% certainty about the security of the deal wasn't enough..

because the previous story was about the 3 men in the US, that are terrorists training HERE!

Tony is doing an excellent job of getting guests on today to show "both sides"....and isn't it sad that the Republicans seem to be as hysterical about this as the dems??


49 posted on 02/25/2006 10:26:18 AM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Morgan in Denver
Hello,

True, the left went so far that even some of my family members (who view being uninformed as a badge of honor), understood that it was the local and state governments that totally dropped the ball. They did not buy the spin, which amazed me!

Glad to be here, MOgirl
50 posted on 02/25/2006 10:28:03 AM PST by MOgirl (Hillary. She's a totalitarian freak. And you know what I'm talkin' about.)
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