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F-22, fighter of the future, set to scream into Tucson
Arizona Daily Star ^
| Feb 26, 2006
| Carol Ann Alaimo
Posted on 02/26/2006 7:12:29 AM PST by SandRat
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posted on
02/26/2006 7:12:32 AM PST
by
SandRat
To: SandRat
My guess is the F-22 will end up being deployed at Luke.
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posted on
02/26/2006 7:14:28 AM PST
by
bnelson44
(Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
To: 2LT Radix jr; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; 80 Square Miles; A Ruckus of Dogs; acad1228; AirForceMom; ..
Raptor comes to Roost in Tucson!!!
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posted on
02/26/2006 7:15:33 AM PST
by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
To: bnelson44
I expect the F-22A to be deployed at the same bases that the early F-15's were deployed at: Luke AFB in Arizona, Langley AFB in Virginia, and Holloman AFB in New Mexico.
To: RayChuang88
Yea, that's my take as well.
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posted on
02/26/2006 7:17:53 AM PST
by
bnelson44
(Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
To: SandRat
About 40 aircraft will take part in the training sessions, including historic warplanes such as the World War II-era P-51 Mustang and the F-86 Sabre, which was flown during the Korean War. Should be one hell of a show!
To: SandRat
there ought to be pictures...
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posted on
02/26/2006 7:23:55 AM PST
by
the invisib1e hand
("Who is it, really, making up your mind?")
To: SandRat
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posted on
02/26/2006 7:25:04 AM PST
by
E.G.C.
To: SandRat
But some Tucsonans concerned about military-jet noise see the extra flights as an added headache and safety risk. LOL!
There's that moonbat term again, when writers are afraid to say "in my really stupid opinion"... , when they are about to say something mindless...
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posted on
02/26/2006 7:26:06 AM PST
by
Publius6961
(Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
To: the invisib1e hand
That may end up in Monday's paper.
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posted on
02/26/2006 7:28:39 AM PST
by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
To: SandRat
Before I read the article I thought "it would be really neat if they could use the "super cruise" feature all the way from their base in Virginia or Florida. (first wing is Langley AFB, Virginia, schoolhouse is Tyndall AFB in the Florida panhandle. That would mean they they'd be supersonic, but without use of afterburners. That would of course create a sonic boom, all the way across the US.
Then I read about some dingbat moaning about extra formation training being noisy. Once upon a time it was called the "sound of freedom". To many of us it still is. Then they compare the sound to a "nearby" (how nearby?) chainsaw, when the jet is 500 feet away. They won't be flying down that low much, and certainly not over the city, except of course when coming in to land or taking off. The sound diminishes by 6 dB for each doubling of the distance.
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posted on
02/26/2006 7:54:02 AM PST
by
El Gato
To: the invisib1e hand
OK?
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posted on
02/26/2006 7:59:24 AM PST
by
APRPEH
(the UN is the biggest cartoon. lets riot......)
To: SandRat
National security requirements are one thing. Practicing for air shows is another, said Daniel Patterson, city planning commissioner. "I'm not sure it's appropriate to have all these additional overflights in a big city. It seems like it would be more appropriate for a remote location,"
I have to agree with him there. Far better that any training accidents happen over open desert.
FWIW, I was raised on Marine Corps airbases, I love the sound of jets.
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posted on
02/26/2006 8:00:40 AM PST
by
null and void
(Imagine what they would be doing if it wasn't a religion of peace!!!)
To: APRPEH
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posted on
02/26/2006 8:00:50 AM PST
by
the invisib1e hand
("Who is it, really, making up your mind?")
To: El Gato
Once upon a time it was called the "sound of freedom". To many of us it still is.The last time I heard my windows rattle was 5~6 years ago, when I was living in Michigan.
It was always on Saturday mornings, so I assumed that the National Guard had regularly scheduled training flights out over Lake Huron.
The booms weren't quite as loud as what I remember growing up back in the '50s and '60s,
but I at least recognized the sound and knew what it was immediately.
To: Publius6961
"I'm not sure it's appropriate to have all these additional overflights in a big city. It seems like it would be more appropriate for a remote location," said Patterson, who is also a co-chairman of...a citizens group concerned about the environmental impact of the air base.
He said the air-show training heaps one more aggravation onto residents already negatively affected by things like extra helicopter flights and on-again, off-again night training at D-M." OK, Mr P.
In the sixties DM WAS pretty much remote, at least on the very edge of civilization.
DM is huge so it must have been difficult for you and all those others looking for cheap land to get close enough (at least on two sides) to be bothered.
DM has, in part for those reasons, always been a training hub, always been busy; and during Vietnam was THE busiest airfield/airport in America.
In this case 'the cost of freedom' supports a very large segment of your community - the feds won't be mailing you a check in the event they move away.
I'd recommend that you hold your fire until we see if Boeing moves out of Long Beach so you can see what loss of a 'dangerous nuisance' means to the local economy.
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posted on
02/26/2006 8:03:55 AM PST
by
norton
(been there, lived that)
To: APRPEH
APRPEH ASKED:
[OK?]
Just beautiful, dude! I'm almost ready to pay more taxes, just to get a few more of those into the air.
Speaking of taxes... now's the time.
To: SandRat
You would think people like Daniel Patterson and the Tucsonans for Quality of Life etc. would be delighted to welcome these pilots and their planes but no, they conjure up selfish reasons why they shouldnt be here. Patterson is all too typical of the bureaucrats that have allowed residential housing, packed like sardines, to be built in such close proximity to Davis Monthan all for the love of the developer who they let write the rules to build anywhere and everywhere. Now they howl that the noise is environmentally incompatible.
Tucson is unique in quality weather for training our young men and women to fly these marvelous machines that keep our country free; to hear them complain is tiresome to say the least. If the city is dumb enough to allow homes to be build along and under flight patterns and people are stupid enough to buy the same, so be it - Davis Monthan is far more important than a few malcontents.
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posted on
02/26/2006 8:08:03 AM PST
by
yoe
To: El Gato
Then I read about some dingbat moaning about extra formation training being noisy.During the height of the Cold War Beaufort used to ask people who called to bitch about the noise, "Are you sure they are ours?"
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posted on
02/26/2006 8:15:41 AM PST
by
null and void
(Imagine what they would be doing if it wasn't a religion of peace!!!)
To: APRPEH
What a cool bird!!!
Supersonic is the way to go. Love the booms.
P.S. Nothing like dozens of F-16's launching two at a time at night, afterburners aglow. Kunsan AFB. Go Wolfpack!
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posted on
02/26/2006 8:17:24 AM PST
by
MonroeDNA
(Look for the union label--on the bat crashing through your windshield!)
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