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The Flip Side of Trafficking: Demand (Prostitution)
Concerned Women for America ^ | 2/23/06 | Brenda Zurita

Posted on 02/26/2006 12:42:01 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: marajade

oops now and then


21 posted on 02/26/2006 1:32:34 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: wagglebee

Publicly caned, for a start.


22 posted on 02/26/2006 1:35:52 PM PST by little jeremiah (Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil. CS.Lewis)
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To: wagglebee

What is particularly saddening is the number of people promoting prostitution on FR, often the same ones promoting porn.


23 posted on 02/26/2006 1:37:36 PM PST by little jeremiah (Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil. CS.Lewis)
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To: little jeremiah

And drugs.


24 posted on 02/26/2006 1:38:12 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

This is probably one of those things that's never going to be solved. This article really shouldn't lump child prostitution with adult prostitution. Whatever you want to say about the adult prostitute they aren't always forced into it, or victims. Children are always victims.


25 posted on 02/26/2006 1:42:03 PM PST by Casloy
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To: Casloy

So what you've never heard about adult women being kidnapped and forced into prostitution? It happens all over the world.


26 posted on 02/26/2006 1:43:15 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: wagglebee
Most people who pay for commercial sex acts are men. They come from all walks of life and all income levels. The only thing they share is the desire to buy a woman or child like a commodity in order to “own” a human being for a short time.

What do the women who buy woman pay for then?

Do they want to OWN a woman too?

Girl Johns

Guess what. Soliciting prostitutes is not a male-only enterprise any longer. Yes, I see that look on your face that says, “N*****, ’scuse me?” But I’m 100 percent cereal here.

And when I say soliciting prostitutes, I don’t mean 40-year-old cougars calling an escort agency to have some failed male model meet them at a room at the W when they get out of the office. I’m talking about real live women rolling down the passenger window so one of America’s saddest and scabbiest can lean in to tell them how much.

Local news reported that when a blood test administered to a john picked up on Tampa’s Nebraska Avenue last October (for some reason “he” had refused urinalysis) revealed two X chromosomes, the booking officers naturally assumed there had just been some f***-up at the lab. It wasn’t until two days later, when Harold Glidden called to complain about finding his name in the local crime blotter, that they realized the real f***-up was letting his sister Samantha pass herself off as a guy with her brother’s old license, some expired credit cards, a crewcut, an Ace bandage across the t*ts, and a really fake-sounding deep voice.

The cops involved offered Harold a sheepish apology over the phone, claiming this wasn’t just the first time this had happened in Tampa, but probably anywhere. However, when we talked to Shawna, a former streetwalker from Trenton, New Jersey, who now works as an exotic dancer in Long Island City, she said this was just plain ig’nant.

Vice: So you had customers that were lesbians disguised as men?
Shawna: Definitely. First time it happened to me, I was with this really short KD Lang-lookin’ dude. I reached down and it wasn’t real. It was one of those crotch-packing things that you get at sex stores. I f***ing beat her *ss off me and ran out the motel to tell the other girls, thinking they’d be as shocked as me. They were both like, “Shawna, please.”

It’s that common?
I don’t know how often it happened before that time, but once I started paying attention I’d notice it maybe once every two months. They always keep their pants up and just pull it through the zipper, with the condom already on—that’s how you could tell. Plus, they’re always a lot smaller and richer-looking than the regular guys. And if they kiss on your neck or your t****ies you can tell right away. Their skin is just way too smooth. It’s never been shaved.

So they would have sex with you using a strap-on, never acknowledging that it was a d*ldo?
Basically. Sometimes they even wanna go down on you. I’m not about to stop them if that’s what they’re paying for, but I know I sure as hell wouldn’t go down on me after a night working those streets.

TARYN SHUBERT


27 posted on 02/26/2006 1:47:25 PM PST by weegee ("Remember Chappaquiddick!"-Paul Trost (during speech by Ted Kennedy at Massasoit Community College))
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To: marajade
So what you've never heard about adult women being kidnapped and forced into prostitution?

Absolutely, it's common, but as I said

they aren't always forced into it

"Aren't always" means sometimes. There are brothels in Nevada in which the woman do it of their own free will and make 10 to 20 thousand dollars a month. That doesn't make it right or less immoral, but they are anything but victims.

28 posted on 02/26/2006 1:49:11 PM PST by Casloy
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To: Casloy

I would think the supposed victims far outweigh those you claim who aren't.

But I view any women who chooses to live a life as a prostitute as a victim.

It all depends upon your point of view.


29 posted on 02/26/2006 1:50:59 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
Its sad indeed that women today think the only way they can support themselves is by selling sex.

That's a blanket statement, don't you think? "women today"? I haven't run into a prostitute for many years, and all the women I know are gainfully employed (so to speak) either doing legitimate jobs or raising their families.

As I stated before, I abhor sex/slave dealers, and unlike you, I will not say "Its sad indeed that women today think the only way they can support themselves is by selling sex." Assuredly, some do, but not "ALL" women.

Nothingnew here......

FMCDH(BITS)

30 posted on 02/26/2006 1:58:36 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: wagglebee

And swingers' clubs and so on.

Well, if the universe is meaningless, purposeless and humans are nothing but chemicals randomly put together, flapping for a while, then rules, morality, and eternal life are all just mental constructs, right?


31 posted on 02/26/2006 1:58:36 PM PST by little jeremiah (Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil. CS.Lewis)
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To: marajade

Prostitution is unhealthy for the men too. So are gay bath houses.

The corner bar with the skank who'll have sex for some cocaine is living an unhealthy lifestyle too (and prostituting herself in different ways). No answer here, just pointing out how STDs are not considered a problem in this country when monogamy is not considered a part of a cure.

The CDC would rather look at guns as a source of "ill health crisis".


32 posted on 02/26/2006 1:59:44 PM PST by weegee ("Remember Chappaquiddick!"-Paul Trost (during speech by Ted Kennedy at Massasoit Community College))
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To: marajade
I view any women who chooses to live a life as a prostitute as a victim.

Just as long as it is recognized that she is a "victim" of her own "choices".

I'm anti-prostitution too, but there has to be accountability on the hooker's part.

33 posted on 02/26/2006 2:04:40 PM PST by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: wagglebee; All; A. Pole
All I got to say is this passage from The Book of Mark: (King James Version)

Mark 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

Mark 8:37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

Mark 8:38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.


The "free market" is not a god but it is a shame that there are people who think so.
34 posted on 02/26/2006 2:07:09 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Mark 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?)
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To: wagglebee

Has anyone caused more trouble in the USA than the alliance of man-hating feminists and fun-hating Bible-thumpers? And, could either exist without the other?


35 posted on 02/26/2006 2:31:27 PM PST by AlexandriaDuke
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To: nothingnew

Are you a man or a woman?


36 posted on 02/26/2006 2:40:04 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Triggerhippie

Some women who prostitute themselves feel they aren't able to do anything other than that profession.


37 posted on 02/26/2006 2:41:24 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: BearArms
Forcing anyone to have sex against their will is despicable and should be aggressively prosecuted. An adult consenting to have sex in exchange for a diamond ring, a gourmet dinner, a trip to Paris, or a hundred dollar bill in no way violates anyone else's rights and should not be the concern of the government.

Well stated.

Two comments on the article of this post. (1) The source is "Concerned Women for America." Feminist groups like this generally consider all prostitutes to be victims, taking the position that it's impossible to undertake prostitution freely — a tendentious position at best. (2) The "Concerned Women" provide no statistics on the number of trafficked women. Why not? Two hypotheses: (1) there aren't any (which I suspect is true, if you demand any standard of validity). (2) the true number of trafficked women in the U.S. is negligible (which would totally undercut their case).

In any case, I read anything from a group with a name like "Concerned Women for America" as straight propaganda.

38 posted on 02/26/2006 3:06:58 PM PST by Sarastro
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To: Sarastro
"Concerned Women for America" is a conserative political organization, covering a range of issues on the economy, foreign and military policy, education, social issues, taxation, etc. very close to the spectrum of concerns you'll find throughout Free Republic.

They're the opposite of feminists.

And if you want statistical info on trafficking, I'm sure they can supply it.

http://www.cwfa.org/main.asp

39 posted on 02/26/2006 3:30:45 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (When I reflect that God is just, I temble for my country. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: marajade
Some women who prostitute themselves feel they aren't able to do anything other than that profession

They can't get themselves down to the nearest social services department and sign up for welfare, food stamps, and/or Medicaid while they look for gainful enployment?

40 posted on 02/26/2006 3:33:05 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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