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To: Thorin
I am claiming that non-Nazis use the phrase "blood and soil."

They don't use it in earnest - they use it as a reference precisely because of its historical connotations.

If I were to say "Zimbabwe's Mugabe has taken a real 'blood and soil' approach to the presence of white farmers in his country" I would be using the phrase in the normal way a non-Nazi uses it.

It is very odd for a non-Nazi to use it sympathetically, as descriptive of his own worldview - which is clearly how Buchanan is using it.

You set out to smear Buchanan, and then erupt in non-sequiturs when I point out other conservatives who use the phrase.

Provide the exact quote from the Chronicles ad, then, and enlighten us.

Now this is a smear indeed.

Novak is well-known for his renunciation of his disobedient stand on Humanae Vitae and defends it strenuously. Novak has written far more articles criticizing artificial contraception than Buchanan ever has.

He is not an admirer of sodomy or the obnoxious sodomy purveyor Andrew Sullivan.

And you'll have to source those Latin America comments.

Which strikes me, as it struck Tom Fleming, as a pretty outrageous statement for a supposed Catholic theologian to make.

Novak himself will openly admit that he was not always an obedient Catholic. And Novak specifically wrote a book refuting the Weberian analysis of Catholic culture.

I don't know who these "neocons" you refer to are. Hitchens is a vile, vicious scumbag.

Ah, the old Trotsky libel. "If you oppose isolationism, you are a Trotskyite."

Blah, blah, blah.

78 posted on 02/27/2006 1:11:37 PM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
>>>>>>>Provide the exact quote from the Chronicles ad, then, and enlighten us.

Here it is:

What passes for conservatism today is really nothing more than the impossible moral and social theories of the Renaissance and Enlightenment, in which universal abstractions, such as democracy and equality, are presented as hard truths, when, in fact, they have never existed in any society in human history. Nonetheless, they are to be applied worldwide, at the tip of a spear (or cruise missile) if necessary. Dr. Fleming's alternative is rooted in "everyday life," the local realities of blood and soil, custom and tradition, friendship and faith, and in the wisdom born of the experiences these realities beget. This wisdom finds expression in folktales and fables, in ancient Hebrew Scriptures and Greek philosophy, and in medieval casuistry. It is the method to solving ethical problems great and small, and it is the method that undergirds authentic conservatism.

>>>>>>He is not an admirer of sodomy or the obnoxious sodomy purveyor Andrew Sullivan.

Yes, he is: http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/cgi-bin/chronicles.cgi/NeoConmen/Michael%20Novak/index.html

>>>>>Novak has written far more articles criticizing artificial contraception than Buchanan ever has.

Have you read Buchanan's "Death of the West?" He praises Paul VI's stand (something he has consistently done), and sqaurely blames Europe's problems on the abandonment of Christian morality, including the embrace of artificial contraception.

84 posted on 02/27/2006 1:33:20 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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