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1 posted on 03/01/2006 7:09:07 AM PST by ZGuy
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Real reasons for living together out of marriage;

1) Woman can continue to collect alimony from previous husband.

2) Woman can collect State aid, medical and dental coverage for children.

3) If woman gets pregnant, can get State to pay for abortion if she wants it, or birth if she has it.

Its all about the nanny state taking care of unwed mothers. If she gets married, the couple is supposed to take responsibility for themselves. The system opposes marriage.


2 posted on 03/01/2006 7:12:43 AM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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4 posted on 03/01/2006 7:13:21 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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I don't disagree with the overall thrust of this article or with the last three points, but with regard to the first point that implies cohabiting makes divorce more likely I think that's bunk. What it reveals, in my view, is that the values of those who cohabit are already different from those who do not, and that these values predispose them to a greater likelihood of later divorce.


5 posted on 03/01/2006 7:14:05 AM PST by AntiGuv
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Why is everyone so eager to give up their individual single life PRIOR to getting married? I don't understand it.


6 posted on 03/01/2006 7:15:08 AM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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re :Real reasons for living together out of marriage;

Dont pay a fortunes for one day.

7 posted on 03/01/2006 7:15:47 AM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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What really gets me, when smart articles like this come out, is the intellectual dishonesty of liberals that wraps the label "religious inspired intolerance" around any argument against the "liberal" things they try to defend. Even an atheist can read the study and conclude that "cohabitation" does not trump marriage, at any time in the "relationship".


8 posted on 03/01/2006 7:15:52 AM PST by Wuli
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Janice must not know any married men.


11 posted on 03/01/2006 7:17:30 AM PST by D.P.Roberts
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The other thing they leave out is this: you get more jaded every time you do it. I hate to admit it, but I've shacked up with six different partners in my 40 years (definitely not proud of it.) And every time, leaving is easier. Eventually you just feel too calloused to ever really bond with anyone. I doubt I'll ever marry (again)... it's just something I bungled early in life and that's it. You don't start fresh every time. Some things are fragile, and they can be ruined.


16 posted on 03/01/2006 7:21:39 AM PST by wizardoz
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Hmmmmmmmmm.........I guess I'm an anomoly. My husband and I celebrated our 9th Wedding Anniverary last week, we'll be together 18 years come June, and our child is only 7.


17 posted on 03/01/2006 7:22:25 AM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in you business........SWAT'EM)
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Further, cohabiting relationships tend to be fragile and relatively short in duration; less than half of cohabiting relationships last five or more years. Typically, they last about 18 months

Not entirely true. I have lived with my partner for over 16 years and I have friends who have lived with them just as long or longer. No problems - we just don't want to get married. Feelings are mutual about marriage on both sides. Most of my so-called married friends who had never lived with their partners before marriage are either divorced or are on that path. It depends on the relationship and the compatablity of the couple themselves.

20 posted on 03/01/2006 7:25:49 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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Choosing not to marry before shacking up is equivalent to mentally leaving the back door open so you can get away with minimal hassle.

The mindset that shacks up is the same mindset that doesn't rule out leaving.

The mindset that wants to marry has a goal of staying and being committed. It's not the living together to 'see if it works' that results in longevity.....it's the determination to stick it out.

21 posted on 03/01/2006 7:26:27 AM PST by Lizavetta
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My husband and I lived together before we married and we've been married now for 12 years. Not all fall into these broad percentages.


24 posted on 03/01/2006 7:29:55 AM PST by ShadowDancer (No autopsy, no foul.)
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Until our courts make divorce a more equitable process, there won't be much incentive for men to marry, except to exploit women for sex or money. When simply saying "I do" means you give away half of everything you've worked for, any relationship takes on economic overtones whether you want it to or not. If you live together instead of marrying, at least you keep the state out of your bank accounts when the deal goes bad.


26 posted on 03/01/2006 7:33:22 AM PST by IronJack
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This is a great piece, frankly attacking the nonsense so many people (including a bunch of FReepers) use to justify their bad behavior. But it does not address the most important consequence of widespread cohabitation: the material poverty and psychological insecurity facing the children whose lives are caught up in their parents' unstable relationships. Our society pays a very high price for the selfish and short-sighted decisions of those who place their "freedom" above their responsibilities to their partners and their offspring.


33 posted on 03/01/2006 7:40:13 AM PST by madprof98
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Studies show that women typically contribute more than 70% of the income in a cohabiting relationship. Likewise, the women tend to do more of the cleaning, cooking and laundry.

Wow, where do I sign up for that?

35 posted on 03/01/2006 7:43:18 AM PST by Always Right
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Myth No. 2: Couples Don’t Really Need That “Piece of Paper”

The "Piece of Paper" is meaningless in the face of "No Fault Divorce".

36 posted on 03/01/2006 7:44:14 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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>>>the divorce rates of women who cohabit are nearly 80% higher than those who do not>>>

As opposed to the divorce rates of men who cohabit? Huh?


38 posted on 03/01/2006 7:48:17 AM PST by sandbar
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I was happily married for 7 years--7 out of 22 is not too bad.


41 posted on 03/01/2006 7:52:32 AM PST by Joe Bfstplk (I am going to be assertive...If that is OK with you.)
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My neighbors have lived together for 14 years without being married. ask them and they will say marriage isn't necessary because ti just ends in divorce.

Ask her, alone, and she will say that she feels cheated out of the pleasure of the wedding and being married and that he is just being stingy and cheap and taking her for granted.


54 posted on 03/01/2006 8:07:21 AM PST by CodeToad
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Shacking up is for people who are overgrown adolescents.

Adults get married.
55 posted on 03/01/2006 8:07:45 AM PST by Antoninus (The only reason you're alive today is because your parents were pro-life.)
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