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To: Tulsa Ramjet

There is something about this story, that to me, doesn't quite ring completely true..accordng to reports in the NY papers, she had been clubbing/bar-hopping with her friend..in that I don't think we yet know the whole story.. and when they left the last bar, she declined her friend's offer to share a cab, saying she "wanted to walk." NO WAY..this is a smart, city savvy woman..a crimnal justice major..no way she decides to walk alne at that hour in a deserted neighborhood. And the description of the way the body was wrapped, and displayed/positioned, the anonymous phone call, her hair chopped off..this was not a random event...She knew her killer, indeed may have been going to meet him.


6 posted on 03/01/2006 11:10:30 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her gene pool. Any volunteers?)
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To: ken5050

There is something about this story, that to me, doesn't quite ring completely true

I don't think there is a subjective theory yet on who did it. It could have been someone familiar, or some random wackjob. And oh, you are right, young women never go hang out at bars at 3am, or later by themselves. never.


7 posted on 03/01/2006 11:16:41 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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To: ken5050

This is NOT a neighborhood for a woman to stroll alone at 3 am.

8 posted on 03/01/2006 11:19:16 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: ken5050
..and when they left the last bar, she declined her friend's offer to share a cab, saying she "wanted to walk." NO WAY..this is a smart, city savvy woman..a crimnal justice major..no way she decides to walk alne at that hour in a deserted neighborhood. 

I don't agree with any of this.  There isn't any evidence she was a smart, city savvy woman in these news stories.  She is from Boston, did well in college and graduate school, and was studying criminal justice at John Jay.

None of that spells 'smart, city savvy woman' in my book.  I hailed from downtown nyc for 33+ years, actually not that far from where she was last seen, and I know many women (otherwise smart women) who have very little grasp of spots that present physical danger.

It's an unintended side-effect of Rudy cleaning up the city.  People think they are safer than they are.  Don't underestimate a young woman's belief that nothing will happen to her, even at 3am, even in the Bowery.

What you say may be true, but there's no evidence that she was all that street smart in the news accounts.  Actually, her last decision to take a stroll to another tavern at 3am on Bowery suggests to me she wasn't all that street smart at all.

15 posted on 03/01/2006 11:38:06 AM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: ken5050
I lived in New York City in the 80's. I was in my 20', single and it was my first time out of my families house. I went crazy with the freedom. I went out most nights and did the bar scene. I had a blast but now when I look back on it I could easily been this girl. I remember one time I left my friends in the upper upper west side(I was quite tipsy)and went walking the neighborhood for another bar I had heard about. I found myself walking on the outskirts of Harlem. A taxi cab driver stopped and asked if I needed a ride, I got in and the next thing I remember I was at my apartment. Young people do stupid things. Sometimes you are lucky to not have to pay for your mistakes.
16 posted on 03/01/2006 11:38:49 AM PST by Republican Red ("Would this be a bigger story if he had been killed?")
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To: ken5050

I think I also heard today that she was found about 6 miles from where she was last seen by her friend when they left the Pioneer bar.

As I posted above, there was a profiler on Fox today that said this could be a serial killer.

Many, many women are killed by boyfriends or husbands but usually not in this way. The taping and disfiguring of her body is part of a very sick minds fantasy.


28 posted on 03/01/2006 4:22:47 PM PST by WestCoastGal (If you believe you can't win, you have lost before the race has begun."-Dale Jr)
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To: ken5050
She knew her killer, indeed may have been going to meet him.

I agree. Not to use the good old "serial killer" line when we only have one dead woman, but I thought that serial killers almost always start with someone they know well. But then again, I probably took that from "Silence of the Lambs". But still, it seems likely that she knew the killer.

29 posted on 03/01/2006 4:25:32 PM PST by Kaylee Frye
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