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'Peter Pan' boomers warned
Herald Sun ^ | 4 March 2006

Posted on 03/04/2006 3:02:34 AM PST by Aussie Dasher

BABY boomers need to shrug off their "Peter Pan" mentality and prepare their homes for wheelchairs and lifting equipment, an aged care conference in Mildura has been told.

While improvements in health care meant people were able to live at home longer, house designs were not always supportive, according to strategic planner and social commentator Dr Keith Suter.

He said there had been a growth of Peter Pan-style developments.

"These are areas developed by baby boomers who think they will never grow old, and which will be unsuitable for them when they have problems later with hips etcetera."

Instead of looking at where to put the latest entertainment system or gym equipment, baby boomers should be looking for homes with fewer steps, bedrooms large enough for lifting equipment, hallways wide enough for wheel chairs and reinforced walls that could be fitted with grab rails.

"Homes that are obviously built for older people are harder to sell to boomers, but retro-fitting homes in Peter Pan precincts later will be expensive," Dr Suter said.

He said boomers should also look for safer environs with less hedge to discourage potential robberies, and streets with safe pedestrian crossings.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agingissues; babyboomers; gettingolder; independentliving; oldies; preparation
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You mean flower power can only take them so far????
1 posted on 03/04/2006 3:02:36 AM PST by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

2 posted on 03/04/2006 3:07:15 AM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: Aussie Dasher
Goodness, that's gloomy.

I'm still not gonna grow up. Don't wanna.

So there! :-P

3 posted on 03/04/2006 3:10:49 AM PST by Allegra (Please pray for peace in Iraq.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Anybody who took care of an aging parent - as I am now - should see the writing on the wall. My husband and I have made changes to our home to accomodate my mom, but we are looking at how it will benefit us later on when our turn comes. Like it or not, that's reality. The 'flower children' had best wake up and prepare for it.


4 posted on 03/04/2006 3:14:05 AM PST by sneakers
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To: Allegra

"Goodness, that's gloomy. "

It is, I'm with you Allegra!


5 posted on 03/04/2006 3:40:10 AM PST by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: Aussie Dasher; BunnySlippers; Allegra; sneakers

When/if the time comes, I will move. Until then they can stick this advice where the sun doesn't shine.

No different than saying to me - "Yo dude, give up the corvette and buy a van with a wheelchair lift now".


6 posted on 03/04/2006 3:40:45 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: sneakers
My parents designed and built their award winning "Senior Home" in 2000.

Dad was 86 and Mom was 84.

No matter how well designed the house was, my mother tripped where the dining room carpet met the kitchen tile floor and her fall shattered one of her legs, ultimately leading to her death last year.

Falling is the big fear. Great attention should be paid to all floor surfaces, from the walk-in or wheel-in shower to carpet/smooth floor transitions.

Get grab bars that a soapy hand can grip.

Independant seniors should still be monitored by a service or family members on a daily basis, around lunch time when the dangerous showering period has passed.

I wish all the best of luck to all in dealing with their own particular situations.

7 posted on 03/04/2006 3:42:59 AM PST by battlegearboat
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To: Aussie Dasher

Figures that the "I hope I die before I get old" (then didn't) Generation wouldn't realize the obvious.


8 posted on 03/04/2006 3:44:00 AM PST by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned.)
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To: RadioAstronomer

The Wall Street Journal proclaimed some months ago that "60 is the new 40". With a photo of a 60-ish couple riding around in a new sportscar. Don't say.

I've been thinking of upgrading my sportcar to a sleeker, faster model anyway.


9 posted on 03/04/2006 3:45:30 AM PST by BunnySlippers
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When/if the time comes, I will move. Until then they can stick this advice where the sun doesn't shine.

LOL - right on!

It's like they think we're all too dumb to figure these things out on our own.

They get off on telling us. ;-)

10 posted on 03/04/2006 3:45:40 AM PST by Allegra (Please pray for peace in Iraq.)
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To: battlegearboat

"Independant seniors should still be monitored by a service or family members on a daily basis, around lunch time when the dangerous showering period has passed."

My father (85) lives in a gorgeous independent living place where he has his own apartment (one of the Erickson communities), and they have a good system. At night, a security person goes around and flips up a lever against each apartment door. Anytime the door is opened, that lever will fall again. The security people do the rounds about noon the next day; if any levers are still in place from the night before, they check.


11 posted on 03/04/2006 3:47:07 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: RadioAstronomer

hehe I can't imagine a Vette with a motorized chair lift! Maybe Craft-matic will make a driver's seat that helps you get out?

Ah, just get a rocket bike. It's easy to clean lovebugs out of dentures...


12 posted on 03/04/2006 3:47:34 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Join the FR folding team!! http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=36120)
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To: Allegra
I'm still not gonna grow up.

You may not grow up, but you WILL grow old.... (:-0
13 posted on 03/04/2006 3:48:27 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: BunnySlippers
I've been thinking of upgrading my sportcar to a sleeker, faster model anyway.

I did. :-)

2005 C6 Lemans Blue Vette.

14 posted on 03/04/2006 3:56:15 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: ovrtaxt
Maybe Craft-matic will make a driver's seat that helps you get out?

ROFL! :-)

The damn thing is so low to the ground now, might not be a bad idea. LMAO!

15 posted on 03/04/2006 3:58:10 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Allegra
I'm still not gonna grow up. Don't wanna.

Me neither.
16 posted on 03/04/2006 3:59:45 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

17 posted on 03/04/2006 4:00:15 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: RadioAstronomer
No reason you can't have fun in a wheelchair...

You just gotta find the right wheelchair!

18 posted on 03/04/2006 4:00:48 AM PST by bondjamesbond (Remember: Shaken, not stirred...)
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To: Allegra
When/if the time comes, I will move.

I’m counting on space at the Old Soldiers Home. Before I retired I made sure some of my troops contributed to it.
19 posted on 03/04/2006 4:02:48 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: bondjamesbond

Tim Allan Special?


20 posted on 03/04/2006 4:03:43 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Nice move!

I was search Yahoo autos yesterday. I liked this 2006 Morgan Aero 8 ... but at $106,000 I'll continue looking.


21 posted on 03/04/2006 4:04:17 AM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: Allegra
It's like they think we're all too dumb to figure these things out on our own.

Yep! "Peter Pans" will always depend on somebody else to take care of them--from Pampers to Depends!

22 posted on 03/04/2006 4:05:13 AM PST by lonestar (Me, too--Weinie)
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To: Kozak
but you WILL grow old....

Yup, and when that time comes, I will take care of it.

However, don't discount "Moore's Law" for computational aids and bioengineering for locomotion aids.

IMHO, Growing old in 2025 years will be far different that 2005. I predict (and yes most predictions have fallen far SHORT of the mark) that by the time I am 75, hips, knees (possibly entire limbs and spine) etc. will be fully functional artificial constructs. We well on our way in that regard already.

23 posted on 03/04/2006 4:06:07 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Allegra
They get off on telling us. ;-)

FR has lots of boomer bashers.

24 posted on 03/04/2006 4:07:08 AM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: bondjamesbond

LOL! :-)


25 posted on 03/04/2006 4:07:22 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Kozak
You may not grow up, but you WILL grow old.... (:-0

Ah, but you can't even guarantee that though, can you? After all, I live in one of America's largest cities. Fast freeways, lots of Katrina transplants...

Oh, and I work in a war zone...

You just never know.

One thing I believe that hastens old age is worrying about stuff too much.

:-)

26 posted on 03/04/2006 4:09:12 AM PST by Allegra (Please pray for peace in Iraq.)
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To: BunnySlippers
FR has lots of boomer bashers.

Big time. Ever get one one of those threads? If they could, I think they would even blame us for the "Black Plague". LOL!

27 posted on 03/04/2006 4:10:28 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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I’m counting on space at the Old Soldiers Home. Before I retired I made sure some of my troops contributed to it.

LOL.

And thank you for your service.

28 posted on 03/04/2006 4:10:52 AM PST by Allegra (Please pray for peace in Iraq.)
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To: RadioAstronomer

That's why I got in on post # 2 to set the tone. If the Gen X-Ys get here to start the bashing first then it's all over.

I thought this was a conservative site. We're all voting conservative, right? :)


29 posted on 03/04/2006 4:13:25 AM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: RadioAstronomer
Arrrggg! Gads, that last sentence is awful! (Left out the are after "We")

Must be getting old!!! hehehe

30 posted on 03/04/2006 4:14:27 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: BunnySlippers
FR has lots of boomer bashers.

And dooooom and gloooooomers.

"I'm miserable about my life so I'm going to try to make everyone else miserable about theirs."

You know what really chaps those people? Laugh at 'em. They hate laughter and humor, unless it's macabre.

31 posted on 03/04/2006 4:15:23 AM PST by Allegra (Please pray for peace in Iraq.)
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To: Allegra
Ah, but you can't even guarantee that though, can you?

Especially the way I drive the Vette! (just kidding :-))

32 posted on 03/04/2006 4:15:37 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: BunnySlippers

I'm with ya. :-)


33 posted on 03/04/2006 4:16:17 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Allegra

Nice bio, Allegra! Yes, a positive attitude overcomes much.


34 posted on 03/04/2006 4:17:19 AM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: RadioAstronomer
Especially the way I drive the Vette! (just kidding :-))

LOL - DIG at 'em! Get those doom and gloomers!

35 posted on 03/04/2006 4:18:30 AM PST by Allegra (Please pray for peace in Iraq.)
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To: Allegra

Hey, what happened to the guy who posted the thread?! :)


36 posted on 03/04/2006 4:20:18 AM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: RadioAstronomer

Boomer bashers love to hate Rush Limbaugh, Bill Gates and G.W. Bush -- to name a few. Just don't call them hypocrites.


37 posted on 03/04/2006 4:21:56 AM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: BunnySlippers

Cool beans on the Morgan!

I used to own a 1971 sky blue Pantera (damn thing overheated if I sat at a light too long), 1983 black RX-7, 1969 black AMX (whish I had kept this one darnit), and one muscle car - a 1971 limited edition Plymouth Roadrunner.

I have driven both a Ferrari and Maserati. I can say this; I have never enjoyed a car as much as this Vette. :-)


38 posted on 03/04/2006 4:27:42 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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Hey, what happened to the guy who posted the thread?! :)

Hey, yeah...what's up with that? ;-)

39 posted on 03/04/2006 4:28:36 AM PST by Allegra (Please pray for peace in Iraq.)
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To: Allegra
You know what really chaps those people? Laugh at 'em. They hate laughter and humor, unless it's macabre.

That's good advice. :-)

You be safe over there! k?

- I have a few of my coworkers there now as well.

40 posted on 03/04/2006 4:30:25 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Zon

hehe! :-)


41 posted on 03/04/2006 4:31:35 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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- I have a few of my coworkers there now as well.

Hey, it's my way of dealing with my midlife crisis. It's my "fast car." Heeheeheee...

42 posted on 03/04/2006 4:39:19 AM PST by Allegra (Please pray for peace in Iraq.)
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To: Allegra

I can stop the car. You just can't stop where you are. BE SAFE!

I served my time overseas during the cold war under Reagan. Was with an F-4 unit waiting for the Soviets to "run" the Fulda Gap.


43 posted on 03/04/2006 4:42:10 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Aussie Dasher
OK, always good advice to prepare. Be that as it may some precautions are simply "safety first" scenarios. When I upgraded our bathroom, I put in a jacuzzi tub for my wife for therapy (ok, I use it as much as she does, it's the gift that keeps on giving. :D ) Still, for her safety, I built in two "beautiful" brass grab bars that matched the other fixtures. Heck, it looks like shower jewelry and really makes the bathroom look simply luxurious. At any rate, there's ways to incorporate safety with asthetics.
44 posted on 03/04/2006 4:47:16 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Kozak

Party pooper!


45 posted on 03/04/2006 4:48:31 AM PST by doberville
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To: Aussie Dasher
Wait until they all get old with their houses in hock and their 401 K's destined to pay off debt, and they have to go to the kids and explain to them that the definition of "compassion" is to save grandmas ass.

This bay boomer retirement deal might get ugly, and I for one am not looking forward to this.

The DNC however, is looking forward to it. As is the AARP.

46 posted on 03/04/2006 4:51:05 AM PST by lawnguy (Give me some of your tots!!!)
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To: RadioAstronomer
I can stop the car. You just can't stop where you are. BE SAFE!

Sure I can. I can get on a plane and head home whenever the notion takes me. Or whenever the chile con queso and margarita cravings become overwhelming. ;-)

Thank you for your kind words and thank you for your service.

47 posted on 03/04/2006 5:00:52 AM PST by Allegra (Please pray for peace in Iraq.)
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If the Gen X-Ys get here to start the bashing first then it's all over.

You mean the slackers and the whiners?

{ducking and running...}

48 posted on 03/04/2006 5:02:57 AM PST by Allegra (Please pray for peace in Iraq.)
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To: jocon307

Makes me glad I'm not a boomer, having been born in a pre boom year.


49 posted on 03/04/2006 5:11:14 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Allegra

And yours as well! :-)


50 posted on 03/04/2006 5:35:39 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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