Skip to comments.History Swings Both Ways (Mark Steyn On Islamists Not Into The "Brokeback Mountain" Thing Alert)
Posted on 03/05/2006 4:26:31 AM PST by goldstategop
Well, it's true that the average 25-year-old does not feel about homosexuality the way his great-grandfather felt at that age. In that sense, there is indeed a "rising tide." But the salient feature of tides is that they go out again. Whatever their appeals to virtue, inevitablist theories of history are always the weakest--the notion that progress is a ratchet effect, moving irreversibly in one direction. On September 10, 2001, for example, not many commentators in North America or Europe paid much attention to the views of Islamic lobby groups. The idea that whether something does or does not cause offence to Muslims would be the early 21st century's principal political dynamic in Scandinavia, the Netherlands, Belgium, France and Britain would have seemed absurd to most Europeans a mere five years ago. Things change very suddenly.
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The man who acquires the audio visual material at our local public library using his position to promote homosexuality. Seems that way, and all these new movies are on a shelf about 3 foot high where all the little heads can see them.
I beg to differ also, and I'm not religious at all
The whole notion of homosexuality as a large feature of any living system makes about as much sense to me as cannibalism - They are both negative genetic traits and produce no offspring.
Sorry, I am not into genetic suicide.
Somehow liberals assume too much. They assume, for instance, since most union members support minimum wage hike (liberal cause), the same members must support gay-marriage, abortion, quick pull-out from Iraq (all other liberal causes) as well.
Now, most Islamo-facists are anti US, anti Judeo-Christianity. Hence, the Liberals think, they must be pro gay marriage as well. Or that the Muslims are into multi-culturalism (Liberals bought the Islamo-facists propaganda in the West, that is, Muslims support 'multiculturalism'. Well, they do, as long as it only applies to Western countries so that the Muslims can do whatever they want there in the name of PC-ness).
Are the libs hoping to get a publicity stunt out of Muslims rioting over Bareback Broken Colon on Top Of A Mountain??
The funniest thing in the world is watching Hollywood, cheering on the terrorists because they think it'll hurt Bush, celebrating World Gay Day at the Oscars tonight. They seem to be blissfully ignorant of what will happen to them if the terrs win. The Bush they hate so much is actually preserving their lives as well as everyone else but they are so high on drugs they can't seem to put two and two together (unless the two are same sex).
In my life I have known some muslims, usually through business contacts. I know what Im going to post might sound anecdotal, but this is what I have always heard from them without exception. The muslims that seem at first glance to be somewhat moderate go ape when the USA govt support of gay sex gets in front of their eyes. I have clearly seen a change of color come over their faces when they speak of this. Some have told me that one reason they absolutely hate the USA is because they think the USA promotes gay culture. Take it as you will.
The decadence of the Western world, particularly homosexuality, and how it's glorified in the sewers of hollywood, are just grist for the muslim world's mill and justifies for them, every act of terrorism they commit. Liberalism is the cancer of our nation, our embarrassment and shame. It invites upon us the hatred and venom of our enemy. We fight Islamofascism encumbered by the dead weight of the liberal, leftist abcess in our midst.
Wasn't it called 'Greek love' at one time, and is what is supposed to have led to the fall of Greece? History shows that liberal/conservative is a pendulum, and neither stays 'on top' forever. But as a society becomes more 'liberal', it is on the downside part of the swing.
I can't see how they are wrong on that. - I feel much the same way, except that my enmity is directed at the socialist agenda for change that promotes any breakdown of Western values possible.
and I see it in the schools non stop.
Im glad you responded the way you did. You and I agree. However, muslims dont necessarily differentiate between conervatives and liberals regarding this issue. They view it as in the big picture. Its enlightenting to speak to them when they feel they can speak freely at least on some issues. But honestly, imo, the more educated would overlook alot of disagreements with us, but the gay thing is a no go from the beginning. A few have told me that all gays in the middle east know they have to move to America, where gays are prized citizens.
Yes thats quite a picture. I find it interesting that they are so annoyed with gays although their culture is replete with gayness. Iran in particular has a long history of gayness being an industry. Iran at one time used to prepare small boys for such behavior by modifying their rear sides. Think Africans with lip inserts an stuff like that and you get the picture. Iran used to insert ceramic plugs of various sizes in order to make the young boys more usefull. Sorry to be gross, but that is history. Marco Polo actually wrote about the practice.
Homosexuality has now been explored completely, no doubt out of curiosity and the necessity of liberal culture to embrace "victims".
What should be ominous to the gay community itself, is that what we DIDN'T know about homosexuality, and has been revealed to us inadvertently in this onslaught via Hollywood, is the lack of dignity and humility within the community itself. There is not the slightest hesitancy to impose upon others, to selfishly demand our gaze at all times. Gay behavior now defines narcissism for us, and self-centeredness has become the community's most salient characteristic.
Outside of Hollywood, a state of boredom and tedium is near. It would be best for the gay community to consider a retreat. A return to cultural marginalization is on the horizon for gays unless they retreat; a return to the closet is not required, but their now elevated position in the culture could be maintained by simply shutting the door to their bedroom.