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Too close for some people's comfort (Reality check for anti-Americans in Canada!)
Western Standard ^ | 02/27/06 | Terry O'Neill

Posted on 03/05/2006 9:53:07 AM PST by Heartofsong83

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To: lafroste
"academic credentials"

I'd have to agree. After witnessing many of the crackpot pronouncements by assorted college professors I've had over the years (it took me a while to get my degree), I'd say your conclusion is right on the mark. Having a phd, in my mind, is no proof that the possessor of said is competent in anything. Certainly not outside their field of "expertise" and maybe not even inside it.

61 posted on 03/05/2006 1:18:37 PM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite
"a vote for Ahern is a vote for Adams"

How so? I thought Ahern was relatively pro-American and anti-IRA.

62 posted on 03/05/2006 1:20:24 PM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: CaptainCanada

Hey I'm backing you up here LOL. I think if you read my earlier posts I state that this whole Canadian vs American thing is over-hyped garbage.


63 posted on 03/05/2006 1:23:07 PM PST by JNL
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To: JNL
Hey I'm backing you up here LOL. I think if you read my
earlier posts I state that this whole Canadian vs
American thing is over-hyped garbage

Yes, you are.. My mistake and apologies.
All you Yankess look alike....

64 posted on 03/05/2006 1:34:31 PM PST by CaptainCanada (We club baby seal pups to death for the fun of it. You got a problem with that?)
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To: driftless

Virtually all Canadians get NBC,CBS,ABC etc. That is their window on America. If that's all I saw of America I would hate it too!!!


65 posted on 03/05/2006 1:35:27 PM PST by BillM
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To: Heartofsong83

Note that the survey ends in 2001 for the time being. Any students of histiry will notice events can act as catalyst for a radical change to an individual or collective people's ideological stances. We have had 9/11, Iraq, Arafat's death, Iran threat, London and Madrid bombings, Paris riots, and riots over Danish cartoons in between - they could have radically altered many people's perspectives.

I gather that 9/11 has produced a right shift on the part of a vast majority living in the United States, and a left shift among the remaining minority. In Canada, as some other posters have said that 9/11 and terrorism are not too much of a concern (I should stress that it isn't a non-concern but that it is not a first critical concern as it is in the United States or to an extent, Australia), the attitudes may stay at the origin or may in fact have shifted slightly to the left.


66 posted on 03/05/2006 1:43:26 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: Heartofsong83; GMMAC; Snowyman

You'll notice that a certain person keeps trying to convince us posters that Canada is a leftist country.


"66 posted on 03/05/2006 4:43:26 PM EST"


67 posted on 03/05/2006 1:49:13 PM PST by fanfan ( "We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality" - Ayn Rand)
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To: BunnySlippers
Good question. I suspect it's because of his politics. He's obviously bright ... PHD in philosophy and degrees in piano theory. Has a real air of superiority. I do know I'm not anxious to discuss the issue with him. He is a jerk.

Wow, with a PhD in philosophy, at which chain does he bag groceries? I'm sure that he is entitled to other people's money though, given the high demand for those academic fields.
68 posted on 03/05/2006 1:52:29 PM PST by proud_yank (Liberalism - The 'Culture of Ignorance'.)
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To: Heartofsong83; Fair Go; shaggy eel

The graph is here:

http://www.worldvaluessurvey.org/statistics/some_findings.html

I notice that yes, the US and Canada are relatively close, it is interesting that Australia is yet a little bit closer to the United States (although not by much). In other words, Australia is the country closest to the United States, then Canada. New Zealand is relatively distant from the United States and more like Britain and continental Europe though.


69 posted on 03/05/2006 1:53:02 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: CaptainCanada
Wow, you must have a really pathetic bunch of Canadian friends.

You should meet some of my officemates!!
70 posted on 03/05/2006 1:55:42 PM PST by proud_yank (Liberalism - The 'Culture of Ignorance'.)
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To: BillM; CaptainCanada
Virtually all Canadians get NBC,CBS,ABC etc. That is their window on America. If that's all I saw of America I would hate it too!!!

Don't forget CNN!! Excellent point, again, we can't point too many fingers at Canada for being liberal. 1) Many thousands of American quitters moved there in the 60's & 70's. 2) Clinton was terrible internationally for the US.
71 posted on 03/05/2006 2:00:43 PM PST by proud_yank (Liberalism - The 'Culture of Ignorance'.)
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To: BillM
Virtually all Canadians get NBC,CBS,ABC etc. That is
their window on America. If that's all I saw of America
I would hate it too!!!

You are correct that we all get the major U.S. networks, but
I think you're wrong about that it could/would make Canadians
"hate" America. In fact, data will show that the vast majority
of Canadians love America and Americans.
OTOH, Watching the U.S. MSM will make them dislike the current Administration.
I kinda sense from my friends that many Canadians feel sorry
for America and Americans..

72 posted on 03/05/2006 2:02:49 PM PST by CaptainCanada (We club baby seal pups to death for the fun of it. You got a problem with that?)
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To: BunnySlippers
My neighbor who owns the house right next to me is a Canadian ... and a university professor. And he hates the USA.

According to the polls and the media most of the world hates us. Putting aside all the problems with polls, or survey in this case, let us assume that is true. The question then becomes, for some, why?

I suggest that most of the worlds media is controlled or heavily slanted by their government. In those where it is not, like the USA, Canada, and most of Europe, the left has done an excellent job of infiltrating and then dominating the media. I even include the Muslim states as left-controlled or at least heavily influenced by the left.

Those folks are campaigning for governments that impose rule and law from the top down and brook no interference. They are the opposite of the USA. Therefore, these controlled, or heavily influenced, media outlets are rich with anti-USA rhetoric. They present us as the devil so that no one under their influence will seek to be like us. We must be demonized to make themselves look tolerable so that they survive.

It is not that blatant in still free countries where the left has made strong inroads, like Canada, Europe, NZ, Australia, etc., but it is the same message presented in a subtle way. Then the polls or surveys, properly designed, claim the results they were seeking. They then give those wide spread exposure to reinforce the opinion that everyone hates America. The many who don't hate America feel they are odd because everyone else supposedly does. Therefore, they keep quiet or if asked, lie.

73 posted on 03/05/2006 3:13:33 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: fanfan; Heartofsong83; Snowyman
Seemingly, the adage "the further the geographic removal - the greater the level of imagined expertise" fits semi-closeted habitual bashers of ALL Canadians much the way "those who can't - teach" sums up so many in the field of education.

Gotta concede though, this particular tiresomely know-it-all probable Troll has been a whole lot quieter since a certain country's recent national elections ... snicker!
74 posted on 03/05/2006 3:15:14 PM PST by GMMAC (paraphrasing Parrish: "damned Liberals, I hate those bastards!")
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To: GMMAC

LOL!


Go Harper!!!


75 posted on 03/05/2006 3:19:15 PM PST by fanfan ( "We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality" - Ayn Rand)
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To: proud_yank
Wow, with a PhD in philosophy, at which chain does he bag groceries?

Well, it was bag groceries or become a college professor. Guess which one he chose?

76 posted on 03/05/2006 3:20:29 PM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: NZerFromHK; fanfan; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; ...
Love the new tagline:
If you're not already in same, you may well have quite a bright future in the fortune cookie trade.
77 posted on 03/05/2006 3:22:48 PM PST by GMMAC (paraphrasing Parrish: "damned Liberals, I hate those bastards!")
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To: GMMAC

Thanks mate. BTW the quote is made by a post-WWII anti-Communist Chinese journalist.


78 posted on 03/05/2006 3:26:09 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: fanfan; Heartofsong83; GMMAC; Snowyman
You'll notice that a certain person keeps trying to convince us posters that Canada is a leftist country.

Actually I hadn't noticed . I was ignoring .

I think his problem has something to do with size rather than which way it points .

GMAC, Us high tory monarchists have a tendency to do that snicker thing . A lot lately. :)

79 posted on 03/05/2006 3:38:52 PM PST by Snowyman
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To: NZerFromHK

Fortunately Australia lacks a hard Left. The Left in Canada and the US is probably well to the Left of anything in Australia.


80 posted on 03/05/2006 3:39:14 PM PST by Fair Go
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