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"We cannot develop without freedom,” wrote Li Datong, the sacked editor of “ Freezing Point” supplement.

Without, perhaps, knowing it he was echoing Adam Smith, the first modern economist who showed that while despotic regimes may achieve rapid and impressive growth they can never develop a truly modern and self-sustaining economy."


What do other FReepers think about this quote? Doesn't the rapid Chinese economic development create conditions for a self-sustaining economy in the future?
15 posted on 03/05/2006 7:12:39 PM PST by indcons (The MSM - Mainstream Slime Merchants)
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My daughter visited the place, was around Shanghai.

She spoke of brothels the size of walmarts here... 5000 whores in them. The lines of men visiting them went for blocks away but they moved at walking speed.

The terrible experiment with only 1 child allowed left 90 percent of the people picking male offspring.

You're looking at what happens to the female offspring; they are sold for a very high price and the parents can live nicely afterwards.


16 posted on 03/05/2006 7:22:20 PM PST by Sundog (cheers)
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What do other FReepers think about this quote?

Had Hitler been able to carry on, the extraordinarily productive German economy would have faced collapse once the supply of slaves was used up. Of course by then, the war would have been over and it would have been time to transition to a sustainable peacetime economy.

In the case of China, parallels can be drawn between use of the rural population and Hitlers use of foreign workers.

20 posted on 03/05/2006 7:37:38 PM PST by fso301
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To: indcons

Money quote from the article:

"We cannot develop without freedom,” wrote Li Datong, the sacked editor of “ Freezing Point” supplement.

Without, perhaps, knowing it he was echoing Adam Smith, the first modern economist who showed that while despotic regimes may achieve rapid and impressive growth they can never develop a truly modern and self-sustaining economy."

What do other FReepers think about this quote? Doesn't the rapid Chinese economic development create conditions for a self-sustaining economy in the future?
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No. You have the democractic party as a very good model of what happens to a party over time. The vigorous party of o FDR is now a joke. The party that built enormous water works around the country --everything from the TVA to the Hoover Dam to the Grand Coolee now shudders over the fate of snail darters.

The democrats have to have a wilderness experience of 40 years or so to restore their vigor.

Something of the same thing needs to happen to the cpc.


The peaceful way to have that happen is with a democracy.


21 posted on 03/05/2006 7:38:35 PM PST by ckilmer
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