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Where the Taleban Train (Quetta, Pakistan)
IWPR ^ | March 3, 2006 | Abdullah Shahin

Posted on 03/05/2006 9:53:59 PM PST by Saberwielder

Where the Taleban Train

Quetta serves as training ground and staging post for insurgents on their way to Afghanistan.

By Abdullah Shahin in Quetta (ARR No. 205, 3-Mar-06)

The turbans in black or white, the long beards and the omnipresent "pirhan-tunbon", the baggy trousers and long shirts that are the traditional Afghan dress, tell me I'm in Afghanistan in the late Nineties, during the Taleban regime.

But this is 2006, and I am in Quetta in Pakistan.

Quetta, the capital of the Pakistani province of Baluchistan, lies about 200 kilometres southeast of Kandahar, across a porous border. Many of my fellow countrymen have made the journey here. In fact, some sections of the city seem to be populated almost entirely by Taleban who fled after the United States-led invasion of Afghanistan in late 2001.

Now they lie in wait in Quetta, plotting their return.

Over the last year, Kandahar has seen an alarming rise in suicide bombings and attacks on troops and government installations. In the past three months alone, there have been more than 20 acts of violence, leaving dozens dead, hundreds wounded, and an entire province terrorised.

Quetta provides a ready supply of young men prepared to wreak havoc in Afghanistan, local observers tell me. There are eight major madrassas or Muslim religious schools in Quetta, each with over 1,000 students or "taleban" in the original sense of the word. In addition, there are hundreds of private madrassas, some with just 100 students, often occupying unmarked, rented houses.

It is these private schools that are a major source of the fighters who are now carrying out insurgent operations inside Kandahar, according to these observers.

One 23-year-old madrassa student, wearing the characteristic black turban of the "taleb", spoke to me on condition of anonymity.

“I am preparing for jihad here, until I am sent to Afghanistan,” he said. “Jihad is my duty and martyrdom my hope.”

Another Taleb, 25-year-old Saadullah, explained why he had decided to wage jihad in his homeland.

“I was recruited by one of my friends who told me terrible things about the Afghan government,” he said. “I was also told that the Americans were always abusing people, killing them, going into their homes and insulting their religion.”

Mullahs did their part, too, he added, preaching fiery sermons against the Afghan government and the American occupiers during Friday prayers.

Saadullah said he was dispatched on a mission to Kandahar to fight both Afghan and foreign troops.

“I was to carry out a suicide attack on an Afghan National Army base in Kandahar,” he said.

But at the border, the friend who was supposed to be accompanying him on the mission gave him 30 US dollars, wished him luck, and headed back to Quetta.

“I thought, ‘Why am I to die while you go back to Quetta?’” Saadullah recalled. “Why are these people not doing jihad themselves? They're just taking advantage of the emotions of young people. They are liars.

"I came back and I will never have anything to do with them again.”

With Pakistani police a rare sight in much of this city, Quetta residents say that the Taleban operate with impunity. They run offices and openly recruit candidates for insurgent operations in Kandahar.

One resident called Abdullah, 40, said the city contains a number of prominent Taleban leaders such as military commanders Mullah Dadullah and Mullah Abdul Ali Dubandi.

The whole world knows that the Taleban are trained in Pakistan but they ignore it. The Taleban are all over Quetta,” he said
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When you walk through the streets of Quetta, you hear Taleban religious songs blaring out of music stores. These incendiary chants, called "tarana", call on youths to join the jihad, kill infidels and repel the occupiers. Such recordings were banned a few years ago, but now they are back.

“Pakistani police used to close down shops that played Taleban songs, but now no one is afraid. The mullahs are very strong,” said one shop owner.

A bookseller who did not want to be named said, “The Taleban are putting out magazines. These publications used to be banned, but now they're published openly and we sell them in our stores.”

The magazines, like the songs, contain open calls to violence.

“When you read them, you just want to grab a gun and go to jihad,” said the bookseller.

Mullahs here openly incite their followers to attack the current Afghan government. In Friday sermons, they encourage the congregation to join the struggle.

“These attacks should continue. Our struggle is legal. We want to install an Islamic regime in Afghanistan,” said one mullah in the Chawlo Bawlo area of the city.

Some city residents claim that the Pakistani military is playing a role in training the would-be insurgents.

The Pakistani military headquarters in Quetta is the main Taleban training base,” said Tariq, 31, a resident of the Askari Park area. “I've seen with my own eyes that Taleban were taken there for training. One of my relatives was among them.”

Military officials refused to comment on the allegation. Governor Owai Ahmad Ghani, speaking on Pakistani television, flatly denied that the Taleban were operating in Quetta and rejected claims that Pakistan was interfering in Afghanistan.

“The Afghan government is weak. It can't control the remote areas of its country, so it accuses Pakistan of meddling in its affairs,” he said.

Taleban spokesman Qari Yousuf Ahmadi, in an exclusive interview with IWPR, said the stories of Taleban bases inside Pakistan were just propaganda.

“People think Pakistan is our friend, but it is not true,” he said. “Pakistan is an ally of America, not of the Taleban.”

The Taleban had no need of foreign bases, he insisted, adding, “The Taleban are sons of Afghanistan. They are in Afghanistan and they will fight in Afghanistan.”

But Afghan officials remain convinced that Pakistan is serving as a major operations base for the increasingly frequent insurgent attacks that threaten to destabilise the southern part of their country.

In mid-February, Afghan president Hamed Karzai led a high-ranking delegation to Pakistan, telling officials there that Afghanistan would no longer tolerate support for terrorists from across the border. While he stopped short of outright accusations, Karzai made it clear that he expected Pakistan to make serious efforts to halt the flow of personnel and weapons across the border.

“If [the attacks] don’t stop, the consequences… will be that this region will suffer with us, exactly as we suffer. In the past we suffered alone. This time everybody will suffer with us,” Karzai told reporters.

Assadullah Khalid, governor of Kandahar province, has repeatedly alleged that Pakistan is behind the recent wave of attacks. In particular, he blamed Pakistan for a suicide bombing that killed 27 and wounded 40 in Spin Boldak in January.

“Pakistan is responsible for the past two decades of war,” he said. “Pakistani police are guarding the houses of the Taleban. We have evidence indicating that memorial services for the suicide bombers are being held in Pakistan.”

Even some Pakistani politicians and analysts agree that their country is heavily involved in creating mayhem on its neighbour’s territory
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“Pakistan does not want stability in Afghanistan,” said Hasel Bizenjo, leader of the Baluch National Party, which represents ethnic Baluchis. “Pakistan wants Afghanistan under its influence.”

Awrangzeb Kasi, a Pakistani political analyst in Quetta, said he believes that there are special terrorist training camps in Pakistan.

“There have been terrorist camps in Pakistan for 26 years, where Inter Services Intelligence [ISI] provides training” he said. “The Pakistani government is always saying that it supports peace in the region, and that it will arrest al-Qaeda leaders, but it is really not doing anything.”

Abdul Rahim Mandokhel, the Quetta-based deputy leader of Pakhtunkhwa Milli Awami, an ethnic Pashtun party in Pakistan, agrees.

“It is clear that these terrorists are trained and supported by Islamabad,” he said. “Pakistan can stop these terrorists, but it doesn’t want to.”

Abdullah Shahin is a freelance reporter in Kandahar.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; deception; karzai; mullahomar; musharraf; pakistan; taliban
No wonder President Bush read the riot act to Musharraf.
1 posted on 03/05/2006 9:54:01 PM PST by Saberwielder
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To: AdmSmith; Dog; Gengis Khan; indcons; CarrotAndStick

Ping!


2 posted on 03/05/2006 9:54:48 PM PST by Saberwielder
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To: Saberwielder
Now they lie in wait in Quetta, plotting their return.

Hopefully, they're in for a nice, looooong wait.
3 posted on 03/05/2006 9:57:19 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Saberwielder

bttt


4 posted on 03/05/2006 9:59:19 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Saberwielder

Thanks for the ping.

Musharaff slammed Pres. Karzai earlier today in an interview with Woof Blitzer (on CNN): http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1590691/posts


5 posted on 03/05/2006 9:59:40 PM PST by indcons (The MSM - Mainstream Slime Merchants)
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To: Saberwielder

Mushey needs to learn how to run a police state properly. You kill and imprison clerics. Your regime must be propped up with fear...Right now it's like "OK you guys don't kill me and I will just let you go off and do your own thing just leave my government alone and pay taxes once in a while Kthx."


6 posted on 03/05/2006 10:01:37 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: Saberwielder

eight major madrassas or Muslim religious schools in Quetta, each with over 1,000 students or "taleban" in the original sense of the word. In addition, there are hundreds of private madrassas, some with just 100 students, often occupying unmarked, rented houses.


All funded by our partner and ally in the war on terror, the Saudis.


7 posted on 03/05/2006 10:11:20 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Saberwielder
This is Musharrafs view:

http://www.dawn.com/2006/03/06/top1.htm

March 6, 2006 Monday Safar 5,

Musharraf says Kabul stirring trouble By Anwar Iqbal WASHINGTON, March 5: President Gen Pervez Musharraf on Sunday accused Afghanistan of stirring trouble in Pakistan and said that his country was not seeking N-cooperation from the US. In a hard-hitting interview with CNNs Wolf Blitzer, President Musharraf said that Afghan President Hamid Karzai does not appreciate what Pakistan has done for him. He knows how he was elected. If it's not for Pakistan, his election would not have gone smoothly, said Gen Musharraf while responding to an intelligence report that President Karzai is believed to have leaked to an American news agency.

In an interview on Feb 18, Mr Karzai urged neighbouring nations to stop meddling in Afghan affairs, or risk seeing chaos spread from a destabilized Afghanistan across the region. The news agency reported that the Afghan president also gave a list of 100 suspected terrorists to Pakistan when he visited Islamabad last month. The list reportedly contained names, telephone numbers and addresses where Al Qaeda and Taliban leaders, including Mullah Omar, were allegedly hiding. "Yes, they have given us a list, I am surprised and shocked why they have given that list to the media there's no need of releasing such sensitive information to the press," said President Musharraf when asked if he had received such a list.

"This list was months old and outdated and contained dead telephone numbers even the CIA knows about it because we have coordinated our actions with them" said Gen Musharraf. "There are families living where they said Mullah Omar was hiding in Quetta. I keep going to Quetta and I know Mullah Omar is not there these kinds of nonsensical (allegations) are not acceptable." President Musharraf said he did not understand why the Afghans waited for a presidential visit to convey an intelligence report, adding that the information should have been shared with Pakistani agencies as soon as the Afghans received it so that Pakistan could have taken action. The president revealed that he also gave him an intelligence report, detailing how Afghan agencies and the ministry of defence were trying to stir trouble within Pakistan. "I passed him a report on what's going on in his intelligence agencies and the ministry of defence," Gen Musharraf said, adding that so far the Afghans had taken no action to stop the activities. President Karzai "should pull up his own ministry of defence," he added.
8 posted on 03/05/2006 11:30:17 PM PST by AdmSmith
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To: AdmSmith

When you link to the "dawn" web site, there are 3 additional pages with interesting info. The third one has a story about military action in Quetta.


9 posted on 03/06/2006 12:48:32 AM PST by gleeaikin (Question Authority)
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To: Saberwielder
the baggy trousers and long shirts that are the traditional Afghan dress..

Hmmm. Those were extremely common in Quetta in the 70's when I was there. They are worn by what we used to call 'Pathans' - really neither Pakistanis nor Afghans. I recall the sign at the border listing the tribes that did not require passports or ID to cross. They don't recognize any authority other than their tribe. They do a lot of trading and perhaps smuggling back and forth. Usually the men had Mausers of some sort on their backs, and the gun shops there were legion, but those days they did not appear to be religious fanatics. Strict Muslims, yes, but not fanatics. Maybe that has all changed and but are terrorists training there, but their dress and the fact they go back and forth to Afganistan is certainly no indication of it.

10 posted on 03/06/2006 3:52:54 AM PST by Northern Alliance
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To: Northern Alliance; Saberwielder
"They are worn by what we used to call 'Pathans' " really neither Pakistanis nor Afghans.
 
Oye! Assi Peshawar Station wich uthraya!
Tau dusseya na ek vi bande di zaath!

Assi Rawalpindi Station wich uthraya!
Tau dussya na ek vi bande di zaath!
 
......har taraf sirf Pathan hi Pathan!

11 posted on 03/06/2006 7:06:29 AM PST by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan
Oye! Assi Peshawar Station wich uthraya! Tau dusseya na ek vi bande di zaath!

Assi Rawalpindi Station wich uthraya! Tau dussya na ek vi bande di zaath! ......har taraf sirf Pathan hi Pathan!

Easy for you to say!

True in Kipling's day, and still is:
As Kipling's Pathan, Mahbub Ali, noted: "The jackal that lives in the wilds of Mazanderan can only be caught by the hounds of Mazanderan."

12 posted on 03/06/2006 4:54:42 PM PST by Northern Alliance
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